<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 4 2005, 11:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 4 2005, 11:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm really ashamed of the things people posting here here are doing. Idiots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont believe that you are offended by this thread Ottodestruct. Every place with actual research states the exact opposite.
Also, colourblind people tell me the sky isnt actually blue. I am inclined to believe this!
<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 4 2005, 05:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 4 2005, 05:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm really ashamed of the things people posting here here are doing. Idiots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yep, me too.
Once again a thread happilg converted from:
"Hay giyz happy fourth of july have a good one peeps!"
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, don't be a ****.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah-- what?
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> [edit]*double post*[/edit]
Seriously, what the ****. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> [edit]*double post*[/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Cut it out guys! I'm crying! WHY CAN'T WE BE NICE TO EACHOTHER? I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED!!
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> [edit]*double post*[/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Cut it out guys! I'm crying! WHY CAN'T WE BE NICE TO EACHOTHER? I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Don't be a noob, this is serious. Stop being so insensitive.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> [edit]*double post*[/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Cut it out guys! I'm crying! WHY CAN'T WE BE NICE TO EACHOTHER? I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <b><span style='color:red'>AM<span style='color:gray'>ERI<span style='color:blue'>CA</span></span></span></b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-Spacer+Jul 4 2005, 03:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ Jul 4 2005, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Jul 4 2005, 05:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Jul 4 2005, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Want to show me some evidence? Every place with actual research states the exact opposite. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, in America. <b><u>EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD</u></b> seems to disagree. Why on earth would we make up a giant big hole in the atmosphere, you freaking spaz. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wheres the evidence? Seriously, if you give me hard evidence I'll agree. Now note that depending on the source, it is different. While quite a few say its getting colder, quite a few say its warming.
At the same time though, we have not accellerated the rate one bit.
As this graph shows, its been getting relatively hotter(by .4 C since 1970), which is the one graph everyone has been seeing. Yes, the earth, by Nasa's count here, has been getting warmer: But its not from CO2, the thing everyone registers as it. Because, if you look at the time between 1940 and 1970, we were DEFINATELY adding more CO2, yet, the temperature got colder, EVERYWHERE. It may be an anomoly, but anomolies don't last 30 years, friend.
And the popular theory that Antartica is melting, the thing causing the sea level to rise? Lets take another look at it, from many scientists's views:
<b>From 1986 to 2000 central Antarctic valleys cooled .7 C per decade with serious ecosystem damage from cold</b>- "Antarctic climate cooling and terrestrial ecosystem response," <i>Nature</i> <b>415</b>: 517-20
<b>Both satallite data and ground stations show slight cooling over the last 20 years.</b>-"Variability and trends in Antarctic surface temperatures from <i>in situ</i> and satellite infrared measurements," <i>Journal of Climate</i> <b>13</b>:1674-96
<b>Side-looking radar measurements show West Antarctic ice is increasing at 26.8 gigatons/yr. Reversing the melting trend of the last 6000 years.</b>-"Positive mass balance of the Ross Ice Streams, West Antarctica," <i>Science</i> <b>295</b>:476-80
I've got another 6 of these that I'm too lazy to copy over(from a book on the subject).
In fact, even that 'fact' that CO2 is raising the temperature doesn't seem to ring true: For example, in New York, NY, the temperature between 1822-1992 rose 4 F, while in Albany, NY, 140 miles away, it cooled by half a degree F. Yet, CO2 levels all over the world rose by 50 parts per million(ppm) since 1957. And that isn't just a single example: there are thousands of those same ones, all over the world.
While I may be overstepping my bounds by saying its rubbish, global warming as we know it isn't happening, period. Its not because of human beings, its because thats how the planet does it's thing. CO2 levels have almost nothing to do with it.
And either way, its warming by a degree every 300 years- and its NOT melting the polar ice caps, at all. And even if it was to melt them- the global sea level would fall, not rise. Antartica takes up a mighty lot of space because of all the air packed in to make ice. If it was to all melt it'd probably go down a few feet.
Dang it people! take your global warming discussions to the discussion forums. I could care less about global warming as it'll be centuries after i'm gone before it has any major effect. I'm not a wasteful polluting moron with a SUV either. I drive a fuel effecient compact car, recycle, and I go boating in a sailboat instead of of a water polluting motor boat.
Back to the original topic- Yay! the 4th! time for BBQ, sailing, and explosives!
<!--QuoteBegin-R A C+Jul 4 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (R A C @ Jul 4 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dang it people! take your global warming discussions to the discussion forums. I could care less about global warming as it'll be centuries after i'm gone before it has any major effect. I'm not a wasteful polluting moron with a SUV either. I drive a fuel effecient compact car, recycle, and I go boating in a sailboat instead of of a water polluting motor boat.
Back to the original topic- Yay! the 4th! time for BBQ, sailing, and explosives! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Spoken like a true blow-boater. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
For all those talking about global warming, might I suggest the book <i>State of Fear</i> by Michael Crichton. It's a ficitional story but it puts current events like global warming in perspective.
The rest of you, chill out. Do you guys serriously live lives so pointless that all you can do is go to an online forum and flame the US?
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<!--QuoteBegin-KungFuDiscoMonkey+Jul 4 2005, 06:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jul 4 2005, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For all those talking about global warming, might I suggest the book <i>State of Fear</i> by Michael Crichton. It's a ficitional story but it puts current events like global warming in perspective. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You'll be happy to note, KFDM, that much of what I've spoken are things based off of the facts explained in that book. Its what taught me what I know o.o
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I dont believe that you are offended by this thread Ottodestruct. Every place with actual research states the exact opposite.
Also, colourblind people tell me the sky isnt actually blue. I am inclined to believe this!
Global warming ol
Yep, me too.
Once again a thread happilg converted from:
"Hay giyz happy fourth of july have a good one peeps!"
To
"OMG GOD AND RELIGION!!!111oneone"
Mods intervene somehow please.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b> Oh ****. </b></span>
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, don't be a ****.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah-- what?
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[edit]*double post*[/edit]
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[edit]*double post*[/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cut it out guys! I'm crying! WHY CAN'T WE BE NICE TO EACHOTHER? I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED!!
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[edit]*double post*[/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cut it out guys! I'm crying! WHY CAN'T WE BE NICE TO EACHOTHER? I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don't be a noob, this is serious. Stop being so insensitive.
Global warming ol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't even say what im thinking right now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then don't. If you don't like him trolling don't feed him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, don't be a ****. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[edit]*double post*[/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cut it out guys! I'm crying! WHY CAN'T WE BE NICE TO EACHOTHER? I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b><span style='color:red'>AM<span style='color:gray'>ERI<span style='color:blue'>CA</span></span></span></b>
Yeah, in America. <b><u>EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD</u></b> seems to disagree. Why on earth would we make up a giant big hole in the atmosphere, you freaking spaz. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wheres the evidence? Seriously, if you give me hard evidence I'll agree. Now note that depending on the source, it is different. While quite a few say its getting colder, quite a few say its warming.
At the same time though, we have not accellerated the rate one bit.
<img src='http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2004/fig1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
As this graph shows, its been getting relatively hotter(by .4 C since 1970), which is the one graph everyone has been seeing. Yes, the earth, by Nasa's count here, has been getting warmer: But its not from CO2, the thing everyone registers as it. Because, if you look at the time between 1940 and 1970, we were DEFINATELY adding more CO2, yet, the temperature got colder, EVERYWHERE. It may be an anomoly, but anomolies don't last 30 years, friend.
And the popular theory that Antartica is melting, the thing causing the sea level to rise? Lets take another look at it, from many scientists's views:
<b>From 1986 to 2000 central Antarctic valleys cooled .7 C per decade with serious ecosystem damage from cold</b>- "Antarctic climate cooling and terrestrial ecosystem response," <i>Nature</i> <b>415</b>: 517-20
<b>Both satallite data and ground stations show slight cooling over the last 20 years.</b>-"Variability and trends in Antarctic surface temperatures from <i>in situ</i> and satellite infrared measurements," <i>Journal of Climate</i> <b>13</b>:1674-96
<b>Side-looking radar measurements show West Antarctic ice is increasing at 26.8 gigatons/yr. Reversing the melting trend of the last 6000 years.</b>-"Positive mass balance of the Ross Ice Streams, West Antarctica," <i>Science</i> <b>295</b>:476-80
I've got another 6 of these that I'm too lazy to copy over(from a book on the subject).
In fact, even that 'fact' that CO2 is raising the temperature doesn't seem to ring true: For example, in New York, NY, the temperature between 1822-1992 rose 4 F, while in Albany, NY, 140 miles away, it cooled by half a degree F. Yet, CO2 levels all over the world rose by 50 parts per million(ppm) since 1957. And that isn't just a single example: there are thousands of those same ones, all over the world.
While I may be overstepping my bounds by saying its rubbish, global warming as we know it isn't happening, period. Its not because of human beings, its because thats how the planet does it's thing. CO2 levels have almost nothing to do with it.
And either way, its warming by a degree every 300 years- and its NOT melting the polar ice caps, at all. And even if it was to melt them- the global sea level would fall, not rise. Antartica takes up a mighty lot of space because of all the air packed in to make ice. If it was to all melt it'd probably go down a few feet.
I could care less about global warming as it'll be centuries after i'm gone before it has any major effect. I'm not a wasteful polluting moron with a SUV either. I drive a fuel effecient compact car, recycle, and I go boating in a sailboat instead of of a water polluting motor boat.
Back to the original topic-
Yay! the 4th! time for BBQ, sailing, and explosives!
I could care less about global warming as it'll be centuries after i'm gone before it has any major effect. I'm not a wasteful polluting moron with a SUV either. I drive a fuel effecient compact car, recycle, and I go boating in a sailboat instead of of a water polluting motor boat.
Back to the original topic-
Yay! the 4th! time for BBQ, sailing, and explosives! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Spoken like a true blow-boater. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The rest of you, chill out. Do you guys serriously live lives so pointless that all you can do is go to an online forum and flame the US?
You'll be happy to note, KFDM, that much of what I've spoken are things based off of the facts explained in that book. Its what taught me what I know o.o