My Soon-to-be Server

LigerXT5 · June 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">hosting server, whats important for it?</div> <span style='font-family:Courier'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'> <a href='http://www.fencemasteramerica.com/ligers_den.htm' target='_blank'>Liger's Den</a> </span></span></span>

I'm hosting my own server about 1 a week/month, havent decided yet.

This server is for clients can choose their own mod on meta and amxmodx. That way so no one has to go to diff. servers for some of what they want and have to be with ones they dont want.

On <a href='http://fencemasteramerica.com/ligers_den.htm' target='_blank'>my site</a> is a voting poll with what plugins I currently have. You can vote for multiple ones you want, and only 1 you dont want once "1" a week. If your browser doesnt support these voting polls I got, just post it here.

Other than what i have shown, what others would you all like on it?

Here is what i currently have:

METAMOD:
BOT: Hive Mind
BOT: Which Bot
Self Weld
Phase Eq.
Phase Select
Parasite Removing Armory.
Night Vision Goggles
NS Status
NS Vote Map
Stam Eq.
Alein Resource tower spore
Jet Pack Heavy
Non CC wall
Bouncy GL nades
Marine Redeem
Lerk Lift
Comm Slap
Comm Ghost
Awards
Armory Heal
Advance status
Chamber seeding
Gorge Grabble web
Super Gorge

AMX MODX
Chamber Vote 2
Donators
Laser
Marine Meal
ME-mines
More Mines
Maps menu
Self Heal Spray

let me know what ya all want and dont, the catch? thers no catch, all theres is YOUR opinion!

Needing:
More Alien plugins either Amx ModX or METAMOD <b>ONLY</b>
let me know! if ya want send them by e-mail: weightlifter5@hotmail.com

Vadakill · June 2005

So...did you have a question?

LigerXT5 · June 2005

no i do not have a question of ns, just asking players what they like on servers.
im trying to keep up to date with what ppl want, and every time im done hosting for the day, i will reset the polls.

i will even take requests on mods i currently do not have

i will soon be having a poll on either co or ns other than that ill have the ns for awhile

I have taken the rcbot mod off do to it tryies to load 4 bot at the same time on some maps and it freezes

edit:
I just got told that if you have jsut voted and went to look at the page again, you need to to see the current page looking.

Faskalia · June 2005

Because you are taking requests:

server size 12-16
NS only
BS 0
consistency 1

Plugins:
showres
afk-kick
force teamjoin as soon as the round starts
votemap

LigerXT5 · June 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Faskalia @ Jun 23 2005, 01:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> server size 12-16
NS only
BS 0
consistency 1

Plugins:
afk-kick  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
ok, now i feel like a noob now that im asking this. lol <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />
what is:
BS
consistency
afk

I'm so sry for even asking this, even thoght this is my first hosting too, <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

2_of_Eight · June 2005

BS = blockscripts. If enabled, you don't get pistol/wiggle/etc scripts... but you're also blocking many legitemate scripts like 3jump and the like. So your choice - if you want to cater more to the competitive communtiy, mp_blockscripts 0. If to the pub community, mp_blockscripts 1.
Consistency = enforced default models. Prevents exploits like spiked models, bright skulks, etc, but also blocks legitemate updates (custom models). Competitive community - consistency on, pub community - consistency off.
AFK = auto kicker for being idle (not moving at all) for x time (usually 1.5-2 minutes).

modie · June 2005

What the...I just can't do it...

LigerXT5 · June 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (modie @ Jun 23 2005, 01:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What the...I just can't do it... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
you ca't vote on the polls on my site?
it could be your browser, like Fire Fox ( one i use ), some block things like that or you may have a "Hosts" file that you or someone that uses your pc put it there.

off topic:
>>>hosts file:
blocks banners from certain web banner sites like adclick.

i uses this for websites that have flashing moving banners that gets realy annoying.
if you want one just go to google and google hosts file and youll find it.
also look for renhosts.bat so when you want to view a site and its blocked, just click that file and it will rename the hosts file so the site will show, unless the browser is blocking it thne you need to use internet exploder, whoops my bad, i mean internet explorer. lol <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

so appaerently im going to have to add another poll for things like this too. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

LigerXT5 · June 2005

I have came across a problem with some plugins canceling others out so if the voting is on 2 that may concel the other out, i am very sry.
we are currently trying to find what will concel the other.

I know this may be something like spam for the NS/unknownworlds forums.
I am trying to get my wsp to enable forum on the server.
If the NS communitee would like it if i dont use their forums anymore. just let me know and i will stop.

Tal · June 2005

the servers that i like to play on usually have - mp_blockscripts 0 friendlyfire 1 and no stupid plugins and usually classic only unless there are less than 10 players

GiGaBiTe · June 2005

dude, you have so many plugins, it makes depots old style server look like vanilla ns. you need to seriously consider which plugins you actually NEED, because when you start running a huge amount of plugins like that, it slows down the server and puts an increased load on it.

not to mention some plugins dont like being run with others causing server instability and lots of crashing.

and a look at some of the plugins you are using, some of them dont even work anymore and or are not needed.

umbra spawn stoped working in ns 2.0

you cant make command chair walls (vertically)

chamber seeding uses stupid amounts of cpu power, and is hella buggy

you dont need the waypoint fix plugin, it has already been fixed

e-weld also uses stupid amounts of cpu power and is buggy

awards spams the screen up in the readyroom sometimes causing a user to overflow and crash. and sometimes it sticks around even when you join a team.

either use hivemind (not recommended) or whichbot, not both. they are both alien bots. hivemind is notorious for using 99% cpu power with just one bot which is retarded.

so unless you have an Athlon 64 X2 4800 with 8 gig of ram, you should probably kill those useless plugins.

LigerXT5 · June 2005

I have done testing with the bots and they all have fine usage. HM doesnt get stuck at walls when theres ppl around, whichbot is set up so u can make new waypoints for new maps, and rc bot is made for both teams.
what is there problems? Hive mind doenst make very good use of chambers, which bot keeps running into walls, and rc bot, from what ive seen, tries to load bots at the beginning of each map and freezing to much at start.

I have so many plugins is to let ppl vote for what they want, I have been thinking of take the top 5 -10 most wanted votes.
they way im figuring the votes out is take the votes from the most wanted and subtracting most not wanted votes on the other poll and theres my real votes.
example: pahse select gets 32 wanting votes, and also gets 11 not wanted votes. thats equals to be, well duh if you know math, 21 mostly wanted.

GiGaBiTe · June 2005

dude, save yourself a ton of grief and remove these plugins

umbra spawn (it stopped working in ns 2.0)
non cc wall (you cant stack commander chairs since ns 1.x)
waypoint fix (they already fixed the waypoint problem, this plugin is useless)
chamber seeding (is horribly buggy, causes alot of server crashes and eats mad cpu time)
e-weld (is buggy as heck, and eats cpu time like mad)
hivemind (worst bot ever made for ns. causes frequent crashes, and each bot uses 50% of the cpus power)

LigerXT5 · June 2005

hey ive seen cc getting stacked in 2.0, 3.0 the cc can be set be side each other, thats what im trying to stop.

hive mind, how do i put this, ive done testing with it, over the net ofcorse, and i have been monitoring the cpu useage and the usage is normal, it does not use 50% of my cpu speed, i have a 2.0 Ghz celeron.

chamber seeding, same with Hive mind. if need be ill test these with every one the week end, july 2, yes thats when im planning on hosting for the first time.

Besides, i thingf rc bot is the worst bot program, I cant even keep them from adding 4 bots at the same time at the begging of each, It freezes the heck out of my pc, let alone ive tried it with my friends and it happend to them too.

otherwise ill take out the others.

umbra spawn
waypoint fix
e-weld

Depot · June 2005

The existing version of chamber seeding is indeed buggy. Know that Darkns is working on a completely re-written plugin <a href='http://www.modns.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1811' target='_blank'>here</a>.

LigerXT5 · June 2005

thnx depot, ill monitor that for awhile until it does come out. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />
If some of you havent noticed in the tech support, I had a big resalution messup the otherday with my monitor and wound up reinstalling the game thn finally sometold me a link to look at to fix the prob.

so know i have to reput the metamod and amx modx.
so im at a fresh start on the mods, thank good ness because i had a big plugin mess.

the list at the top is what i still have but havnt reinstalled them yet. so all im going to do from here is reput meta amd amx modx. and let you guys take it from there.

off topic:
can some one pm me of a place to have a free forum hoster that i can use to help clean this thread up.

InFlames · June 2005

blockscripts 0
votemap
afk kicker
show res/hive health thingy by %

anything else is just irritating....especially phase select.

GiGaBiTe · June 2005

if you dont want people to make horizontal walls, get the c_limitplus plugin. you have the option to limit every chamber and structure in ns. so you can say you want 4 max command chairs, and only 1 unbuilt one. that will stop the blocking. you can also define it for other structures also (ips, pgs, armories, etc)

uhm inflames, why would you want blockscripts off? the only useful application for them is to use cheats, bunnyhopping, and other such stupid things.

modie · June 2005

Here's my suggestion - find a really popular server and do whatever it is they do.

CommunistWithAGun · June 2005

ugh, I had when I see a new server coming up, get excited, then see the hoard of crappy plugins, :\

Well hopefully the usualy people who get off on them will frequent your server, good luck

TOmekki · June 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GiGaBiTe @ Jun 29 2005, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
uhm inflames, why would you want blockscripts off? the only useful application for them is to use cheats, bunnyhopping, and other such stupid things.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
mp_bs 0 attracts more skilled and open-minded playerbase, as long as you keep server slots at around 16

LigerXT5 · June 2005

to all here that doesnt understand connection speed:
I am useing DSL 256k the highest ive seen a server with dsl whas 8 players, and there were times it got a bit laggy.

InFlames · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GiGaBiTe @ Jun 29 2005, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
uhm inflames, why would you want blockscripts off? the only useful application for them is to use cheats, bunnyhopping, and other such stupid things.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
uhm why dont you take that comment to an anti script forum eh?

I dont use any script of any kind, but dont have a problem with them, wise admins can boot anyone takin the peepee as they do.

SlickWill · July 2005

Uh, pluggins ruin the gameplay. Only "/stuck" should be used.

Oh yes, scripts aren't hacking and neither is bhop (which you don't need a script for)

modie · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SlickWill @ Jul 4 2005, 09:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Uh, pluggins ruin the gameplay. Only "/stuck" should be used.

Oh yes, scripts aren't hacking and neither is bhop (which you don't need a script for)  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I have a server with 27 plugins, and based on the number of people that use it I don't think it ruins the gameplay at all. Different strokes for different folks I suppose...

LigerXT5 · July 2005

i got abut 30 metamod plugins that can run at the same time with no probs, and i got atleast 5 amx modx mods ive added, not counting the basic-comealong amx files.

once again, i sadly have to post pone the server hosting agin. we are having a blues fest this weekend and by gardian/bro-in-law wants to take the whole family to it. and sunday ill be too tired to do anything, so hopefully next week end.

if i do get the hosting done then i can add my new 40gig hard drive and refomat my pc, i got one bad reformat the last time i did so it had some kind of mirrior that would have a copy of the hd that would go like c:/new folder/new folder/new folder/new older ad so on. so anything that would be like 12kb belike 2 mb lol. all i have now is 55.8 gig and only 5 gig left. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' />

one thing about the ew folder deal, if i delete whats in it, it gets deleted off the whole thing. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' />

mmcmike · July 2005

heres the deal, there are many different kinds of ns players, the kind who play ns in cal/leagues and the kind who play to have fun mess around.

If you want your server to be a home for cal players, then only play classic maps, the only plugins you need are probably afk kicker, /res, maybe /stuck, and votemap.

if you want to attract the average joe ns player then i guess go bonkers with the plugins, you should know running the number you listed will slow the server down some.

(just so you know i think that the more plugins running on a server generally make it worse, but whatever its your server, then again i only play on servers described in the first part)

LigerXT5 · July 2005

man, i tought no one would be looking at this thread anymore since i have had prob with real life. ya know, work, family.

anyway, i am working a 3-4 week job getting 5.15 to 7$ an hour so, ill problyt be getting a server to rent.

ive tried going to deadlyservers.com but they dont host ns servers since their servers wont support it.

all i realy want is a 10 slot server thats not way to cheap.
and that they allow plugins for bot meta and amx.

Shadow · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 30 2005, 04:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> mp_bs 0 attracts more skilled and open-minded playerbase, as long as you keep server slots at around 16  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I like to play on bs1 servers more then bs 0 but hey im one of those wierd non scripting europeans <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

anyways back to the topic, get a plugin that kicks a player if there ping is to high, the /res one to show res, get a plugin thats kicks a player if ther haven't done anything for a while ( afk kicker) and /stuck to unstuck you then you should be doing fine

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