Demofreak
eliotmat
Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">Is this a reliable way to catch h4x0rZ?</div> One of my server admins uses this tool: <a href='http://www.demofreak.com/index.php?pid=3' target='_blank'>DEMOFREAK</a>
to catch cheaters.
He records a demo of someone suspicious then uses demofreak to check if the suspect is cheating.
Here is a screenshot of how he shows someone is cheating:
My admin says, "Ok, here we go, see the s4 pigeon line? That means that this player uses buzz hook or has used buzz hook. "
<img src='http://img254.echo.cx/img254/9823/evidence9fk.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Is this an accurate way to catch a cheater?
to catch cheaters.
He records a demo of someone suspicious then uses demofreak to check if the suspect is cheating.
Here is a screenshot of how he shows someone is cheating:
My admin says, "Ok, here we go, see the s4 pigeon line? That means that this player uses buzz hook or has used buzz hook. "
<img src='http://img254.echo.cx/img254/9823/evidence9fk.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Is this an accurate way to catch a cheater?
Comments
(also, it may even be the case, if someone is odd enough, to actually include the s4 pige0n line in their setinfo on purpose, by simply typing "setinfo s4 pige0n" into their console).
Sadly, the only true effective way to catch and prevent hackers is to have a secure hook checking program whose footprint is updated on a regular basis, and without prior warning, exposing hackers and banning them on connection (of course, I'm talking about VAC, which I hope to see include support for NS sometime soon...)
Also:
boob.dem?
feel free to ban people who do this anyway
When people joke about cheating not everyone on the server knows it's a joke. Then the newer players assume it's okay to cheat. I don't tolerate it at all.
Thanks for your feedback on DemoFreak, everyone.
I find it unlikely that random people who are suspected of cheating would have also, just purely by coincidence, perfectly typed setinfo "s4" "pigeon" into their console, and then just played super well on the server.
it's something you should consider impropable.
and any one else who has tested hax. Remember you can't recognize hax if you don't know what they ACTUALY do.
(search the forums you will find a thread where esuna made demos of what hax look like)
I find it unlikely that random people who are suspected of cheating would have also, just purely by coincidence, perfectly typed setinfo "s4" "pigeon" into their console, and then just played super well on the server.
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It's a line in your config. People almost never type setinfo's into thier console. I know a few people who have intentionally added s4 = pige0n into thier config, a few members of cX. come to mind...
Either way, no, it is not a reliable way to detect hacks. Like said before, it isn't removed if the person was hacking a long long time ago and has uninstalled thier hacks, and it isn't every hack that adds it. I've also heard rumors that one of the popular NS bots adds an s4 = pige0n to your config... At best it is corroberating evidence. Doesn't prove anything on it's own.
But...
You would have to know the setinfo code for each and every one of the many hacks that exist. And go through every person.. unless there is a search option?
Anyone who has ever tried it once, will have it in their setinfo, until they remove it. It would be a whole other matter if the hook removed it by itself after each use, but that isn't the case.
s4 pigeon in their setinfo variables MEANS NOTHING.
It doesn't mean they're hacking, and it doesn't mean they have hacked.
So, looking for s4 pigeon is of NO use for detecting hackers, none.