The Act Of Downloading Videos Online Is Patented

StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
<div class="IPBDescription">no matter what format it is</div> <a href='http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/2005/05/patent_watch_th_1.php' target='_blank'>http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/arc..._watch_th_1.php</a>

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What if your patent covers your entire industry? And what if you never build your technology but simply sell the patent to a licensing company? That's the case with a company called Acacia (just Google "acacia patent"), which has been enforcing its Digital Media Transmission (DMT) patent since 2002. The patent basically covers any kind of video transmission: download, progressive download, over any type of network, as long as there is file storage involved. Legally, Acacia has a patent on pretty much any type of digital download.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This just made me laughing,

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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Meanwhile children in our own country die from starvation, while the RIAA and MPAA pay laywers millions each year to lobby and bend the law to their whims.
  • Dessidious_ConfuzorDessidious_Confuzor Join Date: 2004-11-05 Member: 32637Members
    <a href='http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Acacia.html' target='_blank'>http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Acacia.html</a>

    Found this digging into Wikipedia... they don't seem to be too big in the spotlight

    yet.
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    edited May 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dessidious Confuzor+May 26 2005, 05:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dessidious Confuzor @ May 26 2005, 05:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Acacia.html' target='_blank'>http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Acacia.html</a>

    Found this digging into Wikipedia... they don't seem to be too big in the spotlight

    yet. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whoa....i think this story is similar to that company that is suing Linux for patent infringing. That company (SnP was it?) was jsut formed JUST to make money from the settlement should they be successful with their case with Linux.

    Acacia seems to be the same. They don't make any product at all. They just hold a patent. That doesnt sound right at all.

    Oh and from that article, its funny to see how out of touch the patent office is (though not sure if its the exact way they thought)

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The US Patent Office thought (downloading videos online) was an original idea and granted them the patent.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-StormLiong+May 26 2005, 06:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ May 26 2005, 06:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh and from that article, its funny to see how out of touch the patent office is (though not sure if its the exact way they thought)

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The US Patent Office thought (downloading videos online) was an original idea and granted them the patent.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The first patent was filed in 1991. Not out of touch, out of date. Anyway, with dialup just becoming main-stream, I can see why it was new and revolutionary. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Why do they even bother when it is literally impossible by current means to stop piracy.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    Because that would be admitting defeat, which is a no-no in politics.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 26 2005, 08:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 26 2005, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do they even bother when it is literally impossible by current means to stop piracy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Idiots will be idiots.
  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    yea too bad they had no right to patent it. The idea of downloading from a remote storage location has been around for longer than I have been alive.
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    edited May 2005
    people will try to make money the easist way possible. even if it means taking the internet to court <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->




    edit: why the hell did i say movie instead of money? /boggle
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    To think that patents were originally introduced to save individual achievement from massive organizations...
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    So does this mean that every time I download some kind of clip, I violate this copyright? If so, I shall henceforth revel in wholesale copyright molestation. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    FYI Xfire is having a similar <a href='http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=XFire&file=cmspage&body=xf_lawsuit' target='_blank'>battle</a>. Except Xfire hired a previous Yahoo! employee who was working on the technology Yahoo! claims they are ripping off. So, while the patent IS rather broad and all-encompassing, there might be a speck of truth to a patent infringement. Unless it's because "you can message friends cross-game omfgz0r," in which case Yahoo! is indeed being a huge ******bag.


    There are many other similar cases of technology being patented by someone who thinks of an idea, but doesn't develop it. If their attorneys are bigger than the developer's attorneys, they get money for free.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    I wonder what is the criteria for working at the US Patent.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+May 27 2005, 11:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ May 27 2005, 11:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder what is the criteria for working at the US Patent. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    At least one drug addiction I think.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    What's special about downloading movie clips? Everything you do on internet involves uploading and downloading, I don't see the special equipment necessary to transfer video files rather than text, html, images, or even chat.
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+May 27 2005, 11:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ May 27 2005, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's special about downloading movie clips? Everything you do on internet involves uploading and downloading, I don't see the special equipment necessary to transfer video files rather than text, html, images, or even chat. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Its just the "concept" of transfering media over the internet that the company has patent on.

    Again this is how screwed up the Patent Office is.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    wait ... does that make linking to <a href='http://www.blackmage.org/bm/3dsm/tutorials/ball.avi' target='_blank'>this file</a> illegal

    oh snap
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Well, streaming video feeds are transferred via UDP I think. But if you can patent UDP, I want the other half of the bargian: I patent TCP.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    TCP is more than half of the bargain
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    hey, now we all may as well download warez and bootleg videos and stuff, because if even downloading legal things are illegal, might as well go all the way with it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • todd1Oktodd1Ok Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28018Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    SO DOWNLOADEING EPISHODE 3 IS ILLEAGLE!??!!" ETFLOLOLOLOLOL
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    Hey, its a <a href='http://wired.com/wired/archive/13.06/start.html?pg=13' target='_blank'>business model</a>.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->WIRED: So, you stumbled across this patent and realized you'd do better cashing in on JPEG than selling videoconferencing gear?
    PETERSON: Yes, that is correct. But we like to call it "finding a Rembrandt in the attic." We already had a small revenue stream from MPEG licensing, but it's much, much smaller than the JPEG revenues we have realized over the last three years.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-todd1Ok+May 27 2005, 09:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (todd1Ok @ May 27 2005, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> SO DOWNLOADEING EPISHODE 3 IS ILLEAGLE!??!!" ETFLOLOLOLOLOL <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    haha!!1
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