Mpaa Blames Bittorrent For Ep3 Prerelease
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Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
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In other news, MPAA blames the invention of the computer.
<a href='http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=797' target='_blank'>http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=797</a>
In other news, MPAA blames the invention of the computer.
<a href='http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=797' target='_blank'>http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=797</a>
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Something that has been hotly debated. I think the problem was that is there are too many variables to find any correleation.
But I think it came to down this
the quality stuff (like Ep3 or an ep of the Simpson): Ppl wil be willing to splash out the cash on it
the sub-par stuff: ppl would just watch it once and forget about it
I blame the internet.
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MPAA: Excellent. 700 ppl to sue
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*jaw officially hits rock-bottom*
May not be exact figures, but they're reasonable ballpark from what I remember hearing. Here in Madison they had to open another theater playing it - they put it on 5 screens of varying size, all of which sold out on less than 48 hours notice.
Yeah, it always sucks when big stuff gets leaked, but this movie is on record pace already. I don't think it'll feel it much.
France is showing the bad example to "fight piracy"
The music industry thinks it's not selling enough CD's. They blame P2P networks, and to some extent they might be right.
Their solution? They went up the government and asked a law be passed on a tax (for the music company) on Optic media, Hard Drives, and any Flash Card/USB key, to "compensate for the loss" because it's obvious that whenever you burn a CD, it's because you're just off of emule or bt.
Basically, you're paying the music industry because people are downloading, without getting anything back.
Thank god, at the moment hard drives aren't taxed, but it'll come soon, just like the rest. I'll finish by buying all my stuff in Belgium.
Their solution? They went up the government and asked a law be passed on a tax (for the music company) on Optic media, Hard Drives, and any Flash Card/USB key, to "compensate for the loss" because it's obvious that whenever you burn a CD, it's because you're just off of emule or bt.
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Seems like a pretty popular thing for the various MPA* of the world to champion. I've heard of similar "taxation" in other places. I've even heard of this being done on HDD MP3 players. It's.. argh. Mind boggling how governments of different countries allow such things to pass through.
Naw, to small...
Lets blame all technology!
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On another note,
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They are most likely the ones that downloaded it.
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Wow, what a nice quote from someone that is defending us in piracy, They must really care.
Business: Decreases sales. Each illegally downloaded album is one lost sale.
Ethical: The end doesn't justify the means.
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Business: Decreases sales. Each illegally downloaded album is one lost sale.
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Incorrect.
If you look at when Napster was big, they were selling a ton of CDs. As soon as Napster went down(i.e., within 2 months of it), album sales went down by 35%. Thats a <b>big</b> number. I blame people hating being kept down- the way it was before is you'd d/l a song, see what the person you downloaded it from had that may be similar, then d/l that, then go and buy BOTH albums.
It helped the industry, not hurt it.
The music industry thinks it's not selling enough CD's. They blame P2P networks, and to some extent they might be right.
Their solution? They went up the government and asked a law be passed on a tax (for the music company) on Optic media, Hard Drives, and any Flash Card/USB key, to "compensate for the loss" because it's obvious that whenever you burn a CD, it's because you're just off of emule or bt.
Basically, you're paying the music industry because people are downloading, without getting anything back.
Thank god, at the moment hard drives aren't taxed, but it'll come soon, just like the rest. I'll finish by buying all my stuff in Belgium. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Parallel discussion I had earlier with a friend.
Since the medium by which pirates use to carry all their contraband is already pre-emptively taxed in compensation, shouldn’t any possible losses incurred already be at least somewhat addressed?
I think that’s supposed to have been the reasoning used in the Canadian courts; since our medium storage devices are already taxed, we can’t be additionally punished for downloading media. Otherwise, what’s the tax for?
P.S.
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CHRISTIANS HAVE IMPRESSIVE EYEBROWS AND LIKE TO STAND IN THE WAY OF ESCAPING COMMUNISTS.
Also, I blame Al Gore. If they really want to show the pirates, they'll sue Al Gore for inventing the internet in a widely publicized and laughed-at court case.
I'd love to point you in the right direction, but I have never done anything illegal and I will never do anything illegal ever. Nope. Nosiree. Never downloaded torrents. I stumbled over that huge EpIII torrent by mistake.
Sure, I'll call him. Tell me his number.
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1-900-555-5555
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I'm not going to fall for that. Everyone knows that's Bill Gates' number.
Except it's not. As I said, the end doesn't justify the means. It really wouldn't matter if everyone downloaded the music illegally and then bought it: they're still wrong.
Let's assume that 75% of all those who downloaded songs illegally bought a CD. This is an unlikely number. But still, let's pretend that the case for illegally downloading songs was that great. 25% of downloaded songs are not purchased. That's 25% lost sales. It doesn't matter that 75% of sales increased: 25% was still lost, and that's a valid and worthwhile 25%.
Downloading songs causes lost sales, because not everyone who downloaded the song bought it. They are not allowed the entertainment of the song without paying for it, or having someone else pay for the license (such as radio stations). The amount of people who eventually did the right thing and bought the music isn't a worthy argument, because 1. they did something illegal to get to the result, and 2. not every person who did the illegal deed bought the album (and as I said before, this wouldn't absolve them of fault or consequences for their actions). Applauding illegal acts because the majority eventually does what's right is flawed.
35% of the illegal downloaders decided instead of doing what's right, they'd further their immature acts and continue downloading without the eventual purchase. Regardless of the purchases or lack of purchases, the illegal downlaoding continued, furthering the lost sales. Regardless of this, condoning an illegal act is rarely right, and definitely wrong here.
The MPAA and/or RIAA is in the legal and moral right here. They deserve to get paid for their works. If people are not willing to pay for the works, they are not allowed to enjoy the works. Enjoying the works first and eventually, possibly paying for them later is not the legal nor ethical way to handle business. It's not the guidelines dictated by the owners of the works. And if one wants to enjoy the owner's works, the buyer will have to follow the guidelines, or avoid the purchase. If enough people avoid the purchase, the seller will have to change the guidelines.
However, as long as people enjoy the works without following the guidelines, the MPAA and/or RIAA has 1. the legal and ethical right to maintain they are losing sales, and 2. the legal and ethical right to sue all those who do not follow the guidelines they have set. This is not a debate. This is fact. Trying to rationalize illegal acts because sales figures increased is a horrid tactic to take, because the source is wrong.
So... today, I pretended to download it and it took 84 minutes, not the 40 hours they were talking about.