Copy Protection Makes Me Want To Eat People

moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
edited May 2005 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">new dave matthews band cd</div> I haven't listened to it yet, because I don't want to spoil the experience by listening to it **** off. Be forewarned, if you were considering purchasing this album, that it has some really lame copy protection that INSTALLS A NEW CD DRIVER THAT GARBLES THE CD.

Jesus.

I don't know about you, but I cannot stand being treated like a criminal when trying to use a product I've legitimately purchased.

If you need help getting around it, try this link <a href='http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/' target='_blank'>http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/</a> It might take a little fineggling to get the driver to appear.

If this is the way BMG and Dave Matthews Band intend on treating their customers, then I'm happy to take my business elsewhere.

Edit: I should add, I've successfully ripped it, so all this succeeded in doing is **** me off first.
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  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    Why would you buy that garbage anyways? Dave Matthews....yuck.

    Unfortunately these new CD's are starting to do this and it's not going to stop, so I'd just say that we are screwed no matter what.
  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    edited May 2005
    Can't you just hold SHIFT when you insert the CD which stops the autorun from installing it's software?

    I remember doing the same with my A Perfect Circle CD. Copy protection didn't stop me ripping it, it only stopped my CD player from playing it, which is what made me decide to rip it instead. Nice work RIAA.

    *EDIT* Dave Matthews Band, I like your taste <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    They did at least put the "copy protection" disclaimer on the cover right? I've sworn to never buy those CDs.
  • DroggogDroggog Random Pubber Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3293Members, Constellation
    Traditional hifi cd player, some cables, a sampling program, mp3 encoder.
    Wonder how they'll stop that. A decoder chip in our ears with encrypted music maybe? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Reminds me of cheating-death (or mp_blockscripts <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). Pathetic.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Why do they just do things that PROMOTE piracy?
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Wait, so let me get this straight: They actually **** UP your CD/DVD-drive if you DARE pop their CD in it? Can't you sue for intentional destruction of property or something?
  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    I think he means it just makes your computer unable to read that particular CD. Still, the only way software from a CD can be installed automatically is autorun, so just disable it and profit.

    Well, perhaps profit sends the wrong message. Try 'Be Happy' <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Well, this is what you get for buying something, lol
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 17 2005, 12:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 17 2005, 12:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, this is what you get for buying something, lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You pay for what you get! + hidden surprises

    i.e. Prostitutes like to give you some extra...STDs...gotta read the fine print first!
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    Happened with me, on the Kasabian album. BMG tried to install a new CD-Driver for it, along with some bulls**t "CD Playing Software".

    Bye bye BMG, left-shift when inserting CD > All copy protections.

    The only one to actually refuse to read was Shakira's album, Laundry Day, but that was circumvented by sticking in work's CD Replicator, and doing a non-protected copy!

    CD Replicators FTW! (not being use illegally mind you. We use it for making copies of driver CD's. No, sorry, "backups" of them... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Patch+May 17 2005, 01:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ May 17 2005, 01:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Happened with me, on the Kasabian album. BMG tried to install a new CD-Driver for it, along with some bulls**t "CD Playing Software".

    Bye bye BMG, left-shift when inserting CD > All copy protections.

    The only one to actually refuse to read was Shakira's album, Laundry Day, but that was circumvented by sticking in work's CD Replicator, and doing a non-protected copy!

    CD Replicators FTW! (not being use illegally mind you. We use it for making copies of driver CD's. No, sorry, "backups" of them... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wait so let me get this straight...






    ..You have Shakiras album...
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Everyone knows Anti-piracy methods only make things harder for the paying customer.

    Anti-Piracy measures promote piracy.
  • TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
    But what about <Incert band of public interest here>'s ivory back scratcher? THE POOR PEOPLE... scratching their backs with regular plastic backscratchers... a disgrace IMO. They've toiled for hours on that CD... and only got <i>millions</i> more then the average worker. IT SHOULD BE BILLIONS I TELL YOU.... <b>BILLLLLIONS!!!!!</b>
  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    Solution:
    Dowload Knoppix
    Put Knoppix into your CD Drive
    Reboot
    Rip CD onto HDD
    Reboot
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    It surprises me that DMB of all bands would do something like this. I mean, don't they support bootlegging and stuff like that? Maybe I'm just lumping Dave into the big group of jam bands that lets you, but I thought that was the case.

    Although it was probably more of the record label's decision than the band's.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-pardzh+May 17 2005, 01:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pardzh @ May 17 2005, 01:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It surprises me that DMB of all bands would do something like this. I mean, don't they support bootlegging and stuff like that? Maybe I'm just lumping Dave into the big group of jam bands that lets you, but I thought that was the case.

    Although it was probably more of the record label's decision than the band's. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, that's the sad part. I'm nearly positive its BMG and not DMB that mandated this. DMB does have an open taping policy.
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SinSpawn+May 17 2005, 01:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SinSpawn @ May 17 2005, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ..You have Shakiras album... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ahah! *ahem* Yeh copy protection sucks, but fair enough for them if so many people are gonna make loads of copies or upload the album or whatever. A mild irritation that can always be got around, twould seem...
  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    This reminds me of a thing a friend of mine told me a while ago. He bought The Sims 2 (I know, I know...) and apparently couldn't get his legit copy to run due to the copy protection. It ended up with him having to ask someone to make an image, mount the image, and run it like that. Just thought it was a bit amusing how the only way he could get around the copy protection was to do what the copy protection was meant to prevent.
  • The_ThingThe_Thing Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13993Members
    Wow they have starforce for music CDs now?
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+May 17 2005, 12:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ May 17 2005, 12:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wait, so let me get this straight: They actually **** UP your CD/DVD-drive if you DARE pop their CD in it? Can't you sue for intentional destruction of property or something? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Their argument is not that it "destroys your property" it just "forces their program instead of your normal player"

    I suppose it's one of those things where the CD can only be read on a proprietary player?
  • ByekaByeka Name changed from Freak83 Toronto Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14484Members, Constellation
    Solution: Put a music CD in a CD player perhaps instead of the computer? Heaven forbid...
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-FreakEightyThree+May 17 2005, 02:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FreakEightyThree @ May 17 2005, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Solution: Put a music CD in a CD player perhaps instead of the computer? Heaven forbid... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except of course, for those people who don't have one . . .
  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    Lol, they jammed a music std on there!
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I have a rare and valuable genetic trait; my father and I prefer the free techno you get on the web.

    Poor artists not getting any money.

    ...

    This board needs a sad-puppydog emoticon.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 17 2005, 07:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 17 2005, 07:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, this is what you get for buying something, lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i lolled because you have the pirate king as your avatar
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    <a href='http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,67556,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1' target='_blank'>I Don't Know Whether to Laugh or Cry</a>.

    I doubt this will ever become economically feasible (the consumer factor) but the fact that they're even thinking about it scares me.
  • KurtKurt Join Date: 2005-05-19 Member: 51960Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ZeroByte+May 19 2005, 06:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZeroByte @ May 19 2005, 06:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,67556,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1' target='_blank'>I Don't Know Whether to Laugh or Cry</a>.

    I doubt this will ever become economically feasible (the consumer factor) but the fact that they're even thinking about it scares me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And then you put the DVD into your DVD drive, rip an image of it (removing the FBI warnings and other nonsense), then make a region-free copy of it. :o

    Copy protection and DRM (digital rights management) is a joke now.

    If they can hack custom operating systems/homebrew code onto an XBOX/PS2, how hard can it really be to make a copy of some form of digital media and ignore the anti-piracy features of it?

    Besides, your DVD player would have to be compatible with this new "protection" for it to even work.

    The FCC proposed it's "broadcast flag" that would have made it harder for people to record shows off of the TV and distribute them on the internet, but it was unanimously struck down. The same thing would happen with this. Forcing a brand new (stupid) standard onto all hardware manufacturers won't go over well either.

    Hopefully they'll soon realize that no form of digital media can ever be TRULY protected, and they'll give up trying to treat consumers like criminals.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+May 17 2005, 07:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ May 17 2005, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SinSpawn+May 17 2005, 01:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SinSpawn @ May 17 2005, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ..You have Shakiras album... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ahah! *ahem* Yeh copy protection sucks, but fair enough for them if so many people are gonna make loads of copies or upload the album or whatever. A mild irritation that can always be got around, twould seem... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's not like release-groups (pH, iRO, dvr, RNS, RH etc etc etc) uses windows so this has any affect on them. The albums will spread on the internet anyway - this only affects the regular users who want to listen to their newly purchased cds on their computer.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    In 2060 each purchase of copyrighted RIAA or MPAA material will come with a free Combine Civil Protection bodyguard, who will beat you with a stick if you try to copy it or let someone other than yourself listen to the noise.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kurt+May 19 2005, 07:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kurt @ May 19 2005, 07:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hopefully they'll soon realize that no form of digital media can ever be TRULY protected, and they'll give up trying to treat consumers like criminals. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I really wonder how long its going to take these executives to get this. If you can listen to it/ watch it you can copy it. Always. There is nothing they can do about it.
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