Walk and stance?

AbyessAbyess Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 349Members
in NS General Discussion
I think that stance should be like in cs and not the half life stance but the walking should be like in those alien movie where its 1 foot over the other it would give it a milatary invasion type look to it. you dont want a half life like walk, run, and crwal to it would look a little wird.
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  • ThrillKill1ThrillKill1 Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 136Members
    Uhhh... right.

    Considering the situation the Marines are in, I would suspect they would be somewhat tense throughout the entirety of the match. Clutching their weapons a little tightly and holding it close to their bodies, yet when they fire they would be firm and opposing.

    I've seen through other mods that it is possible to give the player model several different animations, such as in DoD when your jogging along, your holding your weapon loosely with the barrel pointed toward the ground. Yet when you fire, the rifle is raised immediately.

    Something like this would be appropriate in NS, since the various stances and body language could help set the atmosphere of the game.
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  • ElowindElowind Join Date: 2002-03-06 Member: 279Members
    i dont get a word u just said, but i agree with thrillkill
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  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    Im pretty sure all the models in the game will allhave custum animations, so no mariunes running around like gorden!
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    I like the gordon anims, famous are the cs demos with freaky gordon running aroudn with an AK <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> (I know it's a demo bug, but still funny as hell)
    And I'm pretty sure the animls will be very high quality and adding to the game's atmosphere...
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  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    I remember while playing DoD a machine gunner deployed in a gun nest right next to me (I was providing cover).  Then he begin to cross his chest.  Freaked me out.  Definatly makes sense though.
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  • The_ArtistThe_Artist Join Date: 2002-03-11 Member: 305Members
    Cross his chest...never noticed that before
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    neato, i gotta watch out for that.
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  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    Sometimes they also do it while spawning at the beginning.  To my knowledge, it's an Axis thing.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    axis? or ALLY? bum bum bum...

    *feels out of place and isolated*
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Probably both sides do it, but back to the topic at hand...

    I think Abyess and ThrillKill are actually talking about the exact same thing. The sort of FBIish or ATF stance that the guys take when moving and stuff. Sorta moving sidewaysish with their guns held close and their feet moving in that way only FBI agents do or ATFers... Oh, I knonw.. I'm thinking SWAT teams! That's right! SWAT teams.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    What is being described is known as the 'Ready Carry' position. Basically, there are several ways of carrying a rifle (or SMG for police). The 'Ready' is with your weapon in your shoulder, looking over your sights. The 'Alert Carry' is weapon in shoulder, but the barrel at about a 45deg angle downward. The 'Tactical Carry' is with a weapon held at the waist, up at a 45deg angle and outboard in a squad or fireteam formation. The forth position is slung and not ready for use.

    All those so-called SWAT movements are simply modified military tactics. That's what Daryl Gates used when he invented the SWAT concept.

    Anyways, lesson over. There will be plenty of movement animations for the Marine team; no need to worry.
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  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    half-life animations suck, especially how they hold there weapons to me it looks terrible, thx for doing good animations for the players, cs team! just bring back hostage jumping so they dont blink anymore, plz
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    nice monsE, guess you can learn something by joining the amy...
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  • HardCoilHardCoil Join Date: 2002-03-22 Member: 339Members
    However much I hate CS I think they got the anims pretty right. Trained people move in a certain way, and it cetainly ain't like Gordon Freeman <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> I think the most realistic movements I've seen yet is in Ghost Recon.
    For inspiration you could perhaps check out pages like hkpro.com ? Examples :

    <a href="http://www.hkpro.com/hkaction2.htm" target="_blank">http://www.hkpro.com/hkaction2.htm</a>

    I'm not trying to come off as some military veteran (because I'm NOT) I've just played a lot of airsoft and researched this a lot.
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  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    i kept getting cheap shotted on that ghost recon demo, but i got 30 kills without dying, eat your heart out, coil, j\k  <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
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  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    oh, and i think your right ghost recon should be extremely accurect with movement, weapons, accurecy, and uniforms... uuummm lol
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    you know that movie, speed or something with the bus? theres a swat team in that and they move all neato. and SWAT3 or SWAT4 or something has guys that move great, you can download a demo and watch them.
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  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    wow, i never knew so many ppl disliked cs, thats sad for such a popular game  <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->
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  • PsymastaPsymasta Join Date: 2002-03-10 Member: 295Members
    CS is disliked generally by some people because there are tons of cheats and hacks for it, resulting in unfair games. Plus, many people who play CS over here in SG are ruffian-like. Speaking in dialect and cursing randomly if someone knifes him in the back, then in LAN shops, some people even resort to fighting.
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  • ThrillKill1ThrillKill1 Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 136Members
    I dislike CS because the friggin' thing hasn't changed in years. It's like the creators of that mod FORGOT about the people who made them somebody, and just went off doing other things, updating the official website every leap year or so.

    NS has a similar problem in the update department, but they are far from being as snobby and stuff as the CS team. I hope they never get like that.
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    the NS site (ns.org) isn't updated that often, but why need it if you have rr.org? I mean there's never more than a week between updates, and the forums and IRC room are full of life and laughter <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    what do you mean CS hasnt changed? a new version is coming out soon, not to mention a whole new single player game adding new weapons.
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  • ThrillKill1ThrillKill1 Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 136Members
    I know that, Tycho. But think about the time frame between patches. 1.3 is on its way to being 1 year old. One whole year! And even when it comes out, I suspect all they will do is add a couple more weapons, a few maps, and that's it. That doesn't strike me as very hard work.

    I'm looking at the page now too. The last update was for Tuesday, January 22nd. o_o Yeesh!
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  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Mar. 28 2002,07:52--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Mar. 28 2002,07:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->what do you mean CS hasnt changed? a new version is coming out soon, not to mention a whole new single player game adding new weapons.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the weapons arent going to do any good if there only in singleplayer, i want a famas in multiplayer so i can show everyone how to own

    and cheats and hacks isnt a reason to hate cs, its a reason to hate players that cheat...
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    ok, list frum du top of me head:
    Galil assault rifle
    FAMAS assault rifle
    Ballsitic Shield
    Molotov Coctail
    Gas Grenade
    Flare
    LAW
    probably some more.
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  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    balistic shield is not a weapon, its a weapon deflecter (stops and maybe recoshaise bullets)
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  • hArkhArk Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 92Members
    yer whats the so big change in CS?
    Able to see dead people is that all <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
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  • HikusoHikuso Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 69Members
    i can't for the life of me figure out why they have the suckiest rilfe of all (well almost) tme m4.. *glöööhk* and NOT the ultimate rifle of d34th <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> the H&K g36 *mmmmmmh*

    CS is a good game , the community is filled with 14 year old mentally challanged spoiled brats , so playing online is kinda dull
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  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    i know, 63.89.164.100 hrmph, total awp abusers  <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> and me, the non awp abuser =P
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