Wheres The Fps?

DarknessDarkness Join Date: 2002-05-05 Member: 583Members
edited November 2002 in Tech Support
<div class="IPBDescription">on my quite high-end pc</div> 1300 athlon
384mb sdram
hercules fortissimo iii 7.1 soundcard
radeon 9700 129mb pro
winxp
1024\786 opengl 16bit
abit kt7a with bios flashes
no eax on

and my rpoblem is that when i play ns it seems like something eats my fps up, first when i join i have 99 fps i readyroom, then i join a team and go down to 60 fps, and from there i end up with about 30-60 fps no matter what im doing or where im looking, even when i go back to readyroom it stays near 60.

i have latest via drivers too, hd is a bit old but defragged, i resintalled hl to make ns smooth but didnt help made countless new configs with smaller tweaks in it but i dunno wich ones i want.

but to me this seems like a memory problem? plz help?

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  • elitetrooperelitetrooper Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8562Members
    What do you need more than 50 fp/s for? ...
    Let me guess: you have nano-tech implants in your eyes and can see up to 50 fp/s compared to 25 fp/s which normal ppl recognize as fluid motion. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PsioniCPsioniC Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9051Members
    By default there is a cap on how many frames you can get, I stay at a constant 60 well my friend pushes his to 100 there is really no differnce except if you cap it u can focus your hardware on more important things any way if you want to change the cap i think the command is max_fps "x"
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 2002-06-12 Member: 759Members
    Your complaining about a close to constant 50 fps?

    I get at most 15 fps in NS but ~40 fps in other mods. But I am usually battling those horrible intruders (marines) with 4 fps.

    Maybe you should try updating drivers, looking for that stickied post about frame rates and how to increase them, defrag your HD, get a better computer, etc. etc.
  • pizzamonsterpizzamonster Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7664Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--elitetrooper+Nov 18 2002, 02:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (elitetrooper @ Nov 18 2002, 02:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What do you need more than 50 fp/s for? ...
    Let me guess: you have nano-tech implants in your eyes and can see up to 50 fp/s compared to 25 fp/s which normal ppl recognize as fluid motion. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The human eye can't distinguish past 60 frames a second, not 25. There would be a huge difference between 25 and 50 fps. That was just bothering me and I had to correct you <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I play all my games with v-sync on, but since I run at 100hz refresh rate, most games hover around 100fps. And yes, Half-life's default max_fps setting is around 70 or 75 - I usually put mine on something like 300 just for good measure - and yes there is a very noticeable difference when you bump up the max_fps. It's not 1998 and we're not running Voodoo2 cards anymore... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 2002-06-12 Member: 759Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--pizzamonster+Nov 18 2002, 09:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pizzamonster @ Nov 18 2002, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--elitetrooper+Nov 18 2002, 02:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (elitetrooper @ Nov 18 2002, 02:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What do you need more than 50 fp/s for? ...
    Let me guess: you have nano-tech implants in your eyes and can see up to 50 fp/s compared to 25 fp/s which normal ppl recognize as fluid motion. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The human eye can't distinguish past 60 frames a second, not 25. There would be a huge difference between 25 and 50 fps. That was just bothering me and I had to correct you <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I play all my games with v-sync on, but since I run at 100hz refresh rate, most games hover around 100fps. And yes, Half-life's default max_fps setting is around 70 or 75 - I usually put mine on something like 300 just for good measure - and yes there is a very noticeable difference when you bump up the max_fps. It's not 1998 and we're not running Voodoo2 cards anymore... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Something that was bothering me.....


    fps_max CAN be set higher then 100, but it won't do anything. The max fps in HL is 100 and you'll never get higher.


    *Mumbles to self: Lucky bums with there 100 fps while I only get ~10. Can't wait till I get my Radon 9700 128mb Pro next week.... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->*
  • TyrlanTyrlan Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7635Members
    With more fps in some games you can do things you can't in others. Like quake3 arena... when you go past 130 fps you can make longer jumps in curtain maps. So people will always want to know why they arn't getting their 100+ fps. It's not just that the human eye only registers 30 fps, it has to do with the way levels and games are designed. Also If I remember right somewhere in there is something to do with the netcode and updates per frame. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • elitetrooperelitetrooper Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8562Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The human eye can't distinguish past 60 frames a second, not 25. There would be a huge difference between 25 and 50 fps. That was just bothering me and I had to correct you<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm sorry to say, but my value wasn't quite correct. It should have been, as Tyrlan posted correctly, 30 fps. Everything beyond can't be processed by your brain and additional frames will be dropped. Even with an fps as low as 16 (or 24 like in the cinema) your eye is tricked and treats the single frames as one fluid motion.
  • DarknessDarkness Join Date: 2002-05-05 Member: 583Members
    well i allready said i have all the latest drivers. but more detailed explanation of the fps drop : at first when i enter readyroom i get 99 fps, then i join a team and it drops to bout 60- then afther others come and start doing stuff i further drop to 40-50 fps and end up at 30-50 fps and when i get back to readyroom then im at 50 fps even if im the only one in there! is that a memory issue or something?`
    i do hope this is some silly bug in the mod or something cuz i want 100fps atleast a constant 60!

    thanks
  • Damien_MistDamien_Mist Join Date: 2002-08-20 Member: 1202Members
    Yea, the brain kinda fills in the gaps between all the frames.. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I think, something like that, saw it on discovery channel.
  • DarknessDarkness Join Date: 2002-05-05 Member: 583Members
    are techsupport around?
  • ObliarkObliark Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8183Members, Constellation
    Very strange; Since i have a geforce 3 and I get 85 fps, Since you tried the fps_max ; I'd say Try downloading a program that lets you set your monitor refresh rate higher, There used to be a bug with nvidia and XP that kept it at sixty; so there are plenty of programs that let you set your refresh rate; just beware of burning monitor if you have a low end one. Even with the best hardware, if your monitor cant handle it its going to waste.

    Just my guess ^-^
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    definitly sounds like a memory problem. I'm pretty sure this isn't related to NS, as the dev team really made sure that this could run smoothly even on low end machines. You should try to find one of those programs that will close everything running at the click of a button, they're useful when problems like this occur
  • DarknessDarkness Join Date: 2002-05-05 Member: 583Members
    hmm any1 got a link for one of these programs then?
  • zodazoda Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7175Members
    [qoute]"30-60 fps"
    [/qoute]
    and thats bad?

    I think it's fine,.. are you on 56k?
  • DarknessDarkness Join Date: 2002-05-05 Member: 583Members
    No im on a dls ,and i wont settle with 30-60 fps when i have a radeon 9700... and a 1200amd
    gotta sort out this problem
  • EssoEsso Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9346Members
    If you're sitting steadly at ~60fps I would put money that you have vsync turned on....

    Or in the case that you are using 30.82 (or somewhere around there) dets, there's seems to be a bug where vsync constantly stays on, even if you set it to "always off". This is happening to me right now, friggen vsync will just go to "always on" as soon as I start an HL game.
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