It Says Competitive,
Grendel
All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">Not "nub"</div> Question for the competitive players who frequent this section?
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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btw: I need all my sig space for one of grendels posts (it is axactly 300 characters long <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
<span style='color:red'>[EDIT]And I see you've edited the grammar to fit. I'm sure I use more commas than that.[/EDIT]</span>
If someone butts in starting to talk about other things from other perspectives the best thing would simply be to ignore those posts.
i.e. in a thread about a cal match we don't need people posting "well in pub x we played a 10v10 combat game and it was super balanced!"
hm, whos naive here adnd doesnt think about fake clanners.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i mean everebody can fake a clan...
and nobody will notice...
overall its just a bad idea, even if the thought behind it might be meant good
Just delete the blatantly stupid posts I guess?
And one of the rules should be:
- Make too many posts without experience to back yourself up, and be removed from the forum.
I think this would work best.
But how about applying it all across the forum? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree that competitive play requires you to participate in a clan, or league. There are many "competitive" communities that I recognize <span style='color:orange'>JUST</span> as <s>more</s> competitive, and competant, as most clans. These forums are for the discussion of competitive NS, all forms and types, not as a private play ground for the "clanners".
-Edit
For homicide and typos.
I say the forum is fine as-is.
What communities and what clans? Most of the Omega clans we scrim are far far more competent then those that play on pubs. Most communities ban players for being better then them. I agree that this should be an open forum but I'm concerned with your reasoning.
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree that competitive play requires you to participate in a clan, or league. There are many "competitive" communities that I recognize as more competitive, and competant, then most clans. These forums are for the discussion of competitive NS, all forms and types, not as a private play ground for the "clanners". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Name them.
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree that competitive play requires you to participate in a clan, or league. There are many "competitive" communities that I recognize as more competitive, and competant, then most clans. These forums are for the discussion of competitive NS, all forms and types, not as a private play ground for the "clanners".<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Competitive <i>by definition</i> involves some sort of participation in a competition. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sure, there are some players that have never played competitively that are better than some players that have, but playing well and playing competitively are not the same thing.
Now, if the nslearn community tournament were to ever happen, then those communities would be playing competitively. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
One such example is the tactical gamer community: www.tacticalgamer.com
They are organized, mature, and very well versed in a variety of games. Disallowing them from being part of a competitive discussion is just wrong. I fail to see how singling out clanners only would strengthen any part of this forum.
Sure, there are some players that have never played competitively that are better than some players that have, but playing well and playing competitively are not the same thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Im not refering to player <i>skill</i>, but organized matches with rules/roles. Pugs, for example. Not evey Pug player is in a clan, but those players are being <i>competitive</i>.
it's true
The members of our community has a competitive group and have scrimmed a few omega clans and have won many of the matches.
If the discussion is on competitive matters, it should be pretty much only competitive players speaking in the thread. If you haven't played matches dealing with what's being talked about, you don't need to be speaking in a thread about said matter. It's that simple, talking about something of which you know nothing about simply makes you look foolish, and wastes people's time because they'll start to read the post before they realize you're clueless. Don't delete posts simply because someone's not currently/was never in a clan, but when people repeatedly post on stuff they don't have a clue about, they need to be removed from the forum. Do this forum like the Discussion forum, when people post innane trash, it gets removed. If the person is talking out of their **** (speaking on things which they have no experience of), delete the post. There's no need to segregate who can and who cannot post simply because of their e-status.
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree that competitive play requires you to participate in a clan, or league. There are many "competitive" communities that I recognize as more competitive, and competant, then most clans. These forums are for the discussion of competitive NS, all forms and types, not as a private play ground for the "clanners".<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Competitive <i>by definition</i> involves some sort of participation in a competition. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sure, there are some players that have never played competitively that are better than some players that have, but playing well and playing competitively are not the same thing.
Now, if the nslearn community tournament were to ever happen, then those communities would be playing competitively. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
eh THe NSlearn tournament was a good idea, but then I realized I receive no benefit from helping people play NS better on the internet.
Now I just play the game sparringly, with no concern about which direction the game goes.
Now the game is MUCH more enjoyable.
I think this forum should just be for competitive players former or present.
Having pub communities involved in clan discussion really makes this forum general discussion.
If TG forms a CAL clan, then by all means they are welcome here. If not I really don't see them, or any other non-competitive community having a place here.
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree that competitive play requires you to participate in a clan, or league. There are many "competitive" communities that I recognize as more competitive, and competant, then most clans. These forums are for the discussion of competitive NS, all forms and types, not as a private play ground for the "clanners". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:orange'>I DISAGREE</span>, you have just described organized play. I direct you to the forum:
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?c=5' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?c=5</a>
In order to be <b>competitive</b> you must <b>compete</b> in a <b>competition.</b>
Being organized, dedicated, or intelligent has nothing to do with being an active member of the competitive community. This is the competitive forum and therefore should be limited to competitive players. The current system is fine. The problems work them selves out. All the other competitive players rapidly destroy the non-competitive posts. There need not be special <b>rules</b> and admins to enforce them.
I can insure you these <b>communities</b> you speak of are far less competant when it comes to playing natural selection at the competitive level.
These <b>clanners</b>, as you have <u>maliciously</u> labeled them are players who by definition <b>compete</b> in a <b>competitive</b> <b>competition</b>.
Posts as the one you have made about <b>clanners</b> are the kind of posts we do NOT want in this forum.
Just as I would not write this post in your "natural selection moderators forum", you should not have written your post in the competitive forum.
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- Never, ever, under any circumstance, attack or "flame" anyone. Ever. No behavior is bad enough that warrants retaliation.
- Remain <i>friendly and civil </i>at all times. Be helpful when possible. Treat others the way you would like to be treated.
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<span style='color:purple'>EDIT:</span> The original post which I quoted was altered after I made this post. My post may seem poorly aimed now that the previous post has been altered.
If the admins decide there should be a clanner only forum, besides the forums offered by CAL, then I would agree with you and fully support a seperate clanner only forum.
Should people, whose sigs do not display a clan affiliation, have their posts deleted? After all, this otherwise just starts becoming General Discussion.
Discuss and let me know.
P.S. Obviously, if we implement this system, you'll have to include your clan tag/nick in your sig to post here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree that competitive play requires you to participate in a clan, or league. There are many "competitive" communities that I recognize as more competitive, and competant, then most clans. These forums are for the discussion of competitive NS, all forms and types, not as a private play ground for the "clanners". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:orange'>I DISAGREE</span>, you have just described organized play. I direct you to the forum:
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?c=5' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?c=5</a>
In order to be <b>competitive</b> you must <b>compete</b> in a <b>competition.</b>
Being organized, dedicated, or intelligent has nothing to do with being an active member of the competitive community. This is the competitive forum and therefore should be limited to competitive players. The current system is fine. The problems work them selves out. All the other competitive players rapidly destroy the non-competitive posts. There need not be special <b>rules</b> and admins to enforce them.
I can insure you these <b>communities</b> you speak of are far less competant when it comes to playing natural selection at the competitive level.
These <b>clanners</b>, as you have <u>maliciously</u> labeled them are players who by definition <b>compete</b> in a <b>competitive</b> <b>competition</b>.
Posts as the one you have made about <b>clanners</b> are the kind of posts we do NOT want in this forum.
Just as I would not write this post in your "natural selection moderators forum", you should not have written your post in the competitive forum. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even pubbers are compeating in a competition, be it much more small pitiful and insignifigant... The nature of the game where one team wins and one team loses makes ever match a compeditive match, even if niether team puts much effort into the game.
People who play organized games are compeditive. Maby not as compeditive as the majority of the cal level clans, but I guarentee you that many of them are alot more compeditive then some of the clans out there.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>com·pete Audio pronunciation of "compete" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (km-pt)
intr.v. com·pet·ed, com·pet·ing, com·petes</b>
To strive against another or others to attain a goal, such as an advantage or a victory. See Synonyms at rival.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I fail to see any clan prerequisites for striving against an opponent with the intent of victory.
Clanners are our vast compeditive majority, but they are not the ONLY compeditive faction.