Cloaking Exploiter

DisturbedDisturbed Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6927Members
edited November 2002 in General Server Discussion
I caught a perma-cloak exploiter today. We (Marines) had destoyed all the hives. He kept telling us that he was not going to kill himself because the teams were unbalanced.

I also have a nice demo of him exploiting.

Edit: Since we seem to agree that this is not a true "exploit" (under circumstances) we have to realize that a player can still exploit it. (See how "exploit" has changed from a noun to a verb?) This player was intentionally holding up the game which is bad for ANY server. Unless the server had a timelimit, the map was not going to change anytime soon. Because of him, the server soon emptied.

Should this player be banned? Some people think I have been asking for this. I am not asking for this player to be banned. i am asking an admin to use his or her judgement on whether this player is desirable on his or her server. Meaning, "If I do not ban this player, will this player intentionally ruin the game for other players? OR, was this a 'one time deal' type of thing where he will not do this again?" AGAIN: USE YOUR BEST JUDGEMENT.

My opinion is that he should be banned. If anyone wants to see the demo, just ask. He thought the whole situation was histarical. hell, you can hear him laughing in the voice-comm

Double edit: fusking god dasmns it! the demo is FUBAR.

Triple edit: I salvaged it..sort of. you can see him intentionally trying to hold up the game with:
"Im going to do some homework, bbl" while remaining cloaked in a vent. Thats about all I can gather from it. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> I feel like an NFL official..."Upon reviewing the play...there was not sufficient evidence to warrent a perma-ban."

Comments

  • DisturbedDisturbed Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6927Members
    Here is the demo...hopefully it is small enough.

    It is...but...
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->THE FOLLOWING ERROR(S) WERE FOUND
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    You cannot upload this type of file<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!
  • TyrlanTyrlan Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7635Members
    It's a bug. It happened to ALL the aliens on my team in one game. we all had cloak and the third hive was destroyed and we all then had permenant level 1 cloak. Pretty bad for marines that are trying to kill the aliens that are just hiding and waiting them out.
  • DisturbedDisturbed Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6927Members
    Its also an exploit if you know how to do it. Want me to post a scrrenshot of his non-cloaked friend?
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    it's a BUG not exploit. happened 2 me, what happens is if you research cloaking, and then they destroy ur sensory's you stay cloaked. An exploit is when they PURPOSLY do it.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    yep I've seen it where a teammate stayed completely invisible throughout the game as a <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    edited November 2002
    I want to ban cracy people so dear Disturbed give me your wonid please. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    No - i just hate people that post cracy screenshots or wonids with braindead descriptions why i should ban people.

    Just take it with fun and watch this flash (someone should make one for Natural Selection)!
    <a href='http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/counterstrike.html' target='_blank'>http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/coun...nterstrike.html</a>
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--saubloed+Nov 19 2002, 11:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (saubloed @ Nov 19 2002, 11:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I want to ban cracy people so dear Disturbed give me your wonid please. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    No - i just hate people that post cracy screenshots or wonids with braindead descriptions why i should ban people.

    Just take it with fun and watch this flash (someone should make one for Natural Selection)!
    <a href='http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/counterstrike.html' target='_blank'>http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/coun...nterstrike.html</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what is "cracy" ??
  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mellonpopr+Nov 19 2002, 08:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mellonpopr @ Nov 19 2002, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->what is "cracy" ??<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice question but its difficult for me to write exactly what i mean in english.

    I just think it should not be allowed here to post someones wonid (or "real life" related data) here and write stories about this person. Noone can check the "information" so everything is useless.
    So this should be not permitted like on other boards.
  • Poison-XPoison-X Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7590Members
    its not an exploit its a bug ive had that happen to me before too
  • GoleXGoleX Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7681Members
    Understand... <b>every</b> exploit is a bug in some way. Its called an exploit when people purposely use it to their advantage, i.e. they <i>exploit</i> the bug to help themselves.

    It may be a bug... but it can be exploited too. Nonetheless it needs to be fixed.
  • PaegusPaegus Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5306Members
    for now, just avoid killing the SCs. they may give your position away, but its safer than having a horde of perma-cloaked skulks, lerkers and who knows what else chewing away at your base.
    unfortunately, building new SCs does not cancel out the effect. so.. always leave 1 around.
  • DisturbedDisturbed Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6927Members
    My WON ID is in the picture. Not that hard to find.... But can you give me your sever IP so I can aviod "cracy people"

    I never asked for him to be banned, I have no idea where you got that from.

    In my demo, you can hear him laughing about this and him typing that he was not going to kill himself because "the teams were unbalanced." The map was over, and would have restarted if he had just suicided. He was purposly dragging the map on. There was no way he could successfully build a Hive. He even attempted to do that in the demo. The Hive was destroyed almost immeadiatly. The fact is, he was intentionally ruining the game with no admin around to do anything.

    In my book, intentionally ruing a game is definatly a banable offence. Have you ever been in a game with a myg0t? Their sole purpose is to ruin a game...much like snarlz did.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I just think it should not be allowed here to post someones wonid (or "real life" related data) here and write stories about this person. Noone can check the "information" so everything is useless.
    So this should be not permitted like on other boards. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You want the demo? I can send it to you. It is small enough to fit on the boards, but it won't let me.
  • Poison-XPoison-X Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GoleX+Nov 19 2002, 06:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GoleX @ Nov 19 2002, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Understand... <b>every</b> exploit is a bug in some way. Its called an exploit when people purposely use it to their advantage, i.e. they <i>exploit</i> the bug to help themselves.

    It may be a bug... but it can be exploited too. Nonetheless it needs to be fixed.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this isnt really an exploit as you cant do it yourself it just happens by chance
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Poison-X+Nov 19 2002, 10:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Poison-X @ Nov 19 2002, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--GoleX+Nov 19 2002, 06:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GoleX @ Nov 19 2002, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Understand... <b>every</b> exploit is a bug in some way. Its called an exploit when people purposely use it to their advantage, i.e. they <i>exploit</i> the bug to help themselves.

    It may be a bug... but it can be exploited too. Nonetheless it needs to be fixed.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this isnt really an exploit as you cant do it yourself it just happens by chance<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    umm it IS an exploit if your using it to ruin the game
  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Disturbed+Nov 20 2002, 02:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Disturbed @ Nov 20 2002, 02:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->(...)
    I never asked for him to be banned, I have no idea where you got that from.(...)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok - sorry. I think you just want an authentic screenshot.
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