Battle Of The Superbands
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<div class="IPBDescription">Just a quick though</div> I was listening to some music earlier and realized... Velvet Revolver and Audioslave are a new breed of band. Sort of... superbands, made in voltron-like fashion from the ashes of older bands (though I hope STP gets back together someday.)
So, it's a simple question, which superband suits you? I'm more of a Velvet Revolver fan, myself. Not as many of their songs are good, but the ones that are... pure pwnage.
Audioslave is more consistantly good, but not as intense when it is.
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So, it's a simple question, which superband suits you? I'm more of a Velvet Revolver fan, myself. Not as many of their songs are good, but the ones that are... pure pwnage.
Audioslave is more consistantly good, but not as intense when it is.
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To top that off the remains of Rage Against the Machine (one of my all time favorite bands) show in just about every track how much they depended on Zach de la Rocha to make good music. Tom Morellos is still an awesome guitarist, but all of Audioslaves music is lacking the intensity that made Rage so great. I am still waiting to hear some of de la Rocha's new solo stuff, but have quite a few reservations given the disapointment of Audioslave....
I honestly have nothing to say about Velvet Revolver.... other than i don't like them....alot....
You didn't mention Mars Volta, the resurrected remains of At the Drive In (the ones that didn't go emo in Sparta) with some help from Ikey Owens of the Long Beach Dub All-Stars . If I had to pick a band of this nature to say was the best, they would defiantly have to be it. But I still can't honestly claim to like them that much. Their music is okay, but somewhat, I don't know, lacking. I can't really describe what I dislike about their music. Add to that their pretentious (the whole reason why the two main guys, Cedric Bixler and Omar Rodriguez, kinda left At the Drive in as I recall), though I can't help laughing at myself for the irony in complaining about that given the nature of this post....
There is of course always A Perfect Circle....though I guess thats more of Maynard's (of Tool) side project with some other decent musicians thrown in.....I think their Drum played with Devo at some point, oh and almost forgot James Iha of Smashing Pumpkins is part of the line up now...since he is still active in tool to, but I guess tis still along a similar lines. Again, they are nothing compared to the bands that their members used to be part of.
At anyrate, I don't feel that these "superbands" is necessarily a good way for the music industry to be going. Great bands are a mix of elements contributed by all the members in a band. To try and mix and match band members from good bands is in my opinion simply bound to fail, for what made their previous bands great will be missing from the new bands, and most likely lead to something that is a best a poor shadow of what could have been.
Yet at the same time I have to recognize the benefits great musicians have on each other, just look at the difference between Marilyn Manson's music when he is working with NIN's Trent Reznor. And clearly one can not expect for people to not try and make new bands when, for whatever reason, their old one fails or breaks up or a key member up and dies. It just seems to me that searching musicians from other great well known bands seems to not work out more than it does.
Wait a minute....never mind....Mars Volta is not the best of these. I forgot the Postal Service. Dntel and Death Cab for Cutie combined to make something that while admittedly kinda sappy, is great. Thats the best "superband" in my book by far...I guess it <i>can</i> work....it just doesn't happen often enough.
And it's not as if the concept of the "superband" was so amazing and new when Velvet Revolver or whatever came out. Hip-hoppers have been doing it for years. Just look at Handsome Boy Modeling School. Now that's a superband I can get behind: Dan The Automator, Prince Paul, and Father Guido Sarducci.
Then they go and cover 50's love songs and broadway show tunes. It rocks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Allow me to illustrate this mathematically.
Led Zepplin / 500,000,000! > You * 500,000,000!
That's just how much Led rocks your boxors.
That said, I think the most modern superband was Nirvana, if for the only reason that Kurt Cobain's suicide effectively killed Grunge, and destroyed the natural and logical progression of ideas found in music. There was a spurt of imitators, but after that, you got a whole mess of band that did their own new thing because they HAD to.
I personally can't stand Nirvana, but maybe that's just me.
What does this have to do with the topic?
Also, don't forget Temple of the Dog (Soundgarden/Mother Love Bone/Green River).
Audioslave was better back in the Rage Against the Machine days, but i think that's just a question of personal preference, as the styles of music are different.
In a less roundabout fashion, 'Cream' were perhaps the purest form of a so-called superband. An amazingly talented drummer, bassist and guitarist abandoning their bands to collaborate as a holy trinity. Sublime.
It basically had Eric Clapton and Ginger Baker from Cream, Ric Grech from the folk/rock band Family and Stevie Winwood from the band Traffic.
They were basically jamming at Eric Clapton's place and had a good time together.
Then they made a brilliant album in 1969 named after themselves and disbanded shortly after.
"I am the highway" was a good song, though.
Allow me to illustrate this mathematically.
Led Zepplin / 500,000,000! > You * 500,000,000!
That's just how much Led rocks your boxors.
That said, I think the most modern superband was Nirvana, if for the only reason that Kurt Cobain's suicide effectively killed Grunge, and destroyed the natural and logical progression of ideas found in music. There was a spurt of imitators, but after that, you got a whole mess of band that did their own new thing because they HAD to. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
QFT.
The result is an awesomely weird, unclassifiable band that kicks ****. Their CD <a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005OL93/qid=1113359105/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl15/102-2159526-1400143?v=glance&s=music&n=507846' target='_blank'>The Grand Pecking Order</a> is top notch from beginning to end.
Possibly, the Traveling Wilbury's.
Unless I'm confused as to what superband means? They're a band that's pretty much impossible/extremly difficult to pin down in one genre, yes?
The term is kinda misleading.
Muse does rock however <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
According to CMEast's description, they'd have to be made from members of other bands. I thought no one knew the actual people behind the Gorillaz, only those who produced the idea[Damon, Dan and Jamie I believe they are.]
I thought Led Zeppelin formed from the Yardbird's ashes.
I won't edit though or it'll confuse other readers.
Audioslave is not Rage. Get used to it.
Personally, I like Audioslave, and APC. They're both good bands regardless.
I'd write more but my brain died.