St Farm Strat
Ambrosek
Join Date: 2003-12-06 Member: 24018Members
Join Date: 2003-12-06 Member: 24018Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Opinion</div> 1: get 4 Rt node(include the one in your base)
2: Get A1W1
3: Get PG
4: Get few more RT (1-3)
5: Start Farming in every RT node position.
6: Drop OBS in the farms
Once there s a fade drop SG*
*2 TF + 10- 15 sts + PG + OBS in 1 position
*electric TF and RT once u have RES.
Will it workagainst in a normal match? i ve tried this strat on a noob A team and it worked pretty well.
*OBS covered 80% of the map
*Lower lifeform (Lerk below) could never pass through any position.
*RT nodes = 0 dmg
It cost lots of res and time.
i ve relocated to a hive. Capture another hive and start farming.
After 2-hive-lock, i started to cap RT outside the base and covered it with ST.
When aliens got onos Marines intercept them in every position ( ST farm position) .
I didnt get the adv armor but i get the grenade and welders for my marines to prevent <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Whats your opinion for this strat
2: Get A1W1
3: Get PG
4: Get few more RT (1-3)
5: Start Farming in every RT node position.
6: Drop OBS in the farms
Once there s a fade drop SG*
*2 TF + 10- 15 sts + PG + OBS in 1 position
*electric TF and RT once u have RES.
Will it workagainst in a normal match? i ve tried this strat on a noob A team and it worked pretty well.
*OBS covered 80% of the map
*Lower lifeform (Lerk below) could never pass through any position.
*RT nodes = 0 dmg
It cost lots of res and time.
i ve relocated to a hive. Capture another hive and start farming.
After 2-hive-lock, i started to cap RT outside the base and covered it with ST.
When aliens got onos Marines intercept them in every position ( ST farm position) .
I didnt get the adv armor but i get the grenade and welders for my marines to prevent <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Whats your opinion for this strat
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Plus, this "strategy" requires a 2-hive lockdown, which is already boring enough as it is. Try to finish the game quickly once you have 2 hives locked down. TFac + PG + obs +Turrets + elect = over 100 res definitely at EACH location. Not to mention that you'll have like 9 phase hates locations. Your marines won't be able to reinforce quickly enough with that meny PGs to cycle through. So if you want to do this to 9 res towers, you'll need to spend over 900 res. Instead, why not drop GUNS and research UPGRADES and get Heavies or JPs? Your marines can deal more damage than turrets can, and they can MOVE.
This will be a long game because by the time you get a 2-hive lockdown, IF you manage to lock two hives down, the first Fades will already be ont he field. Fades typically appear around 4-5 minutes. In 5 minutes, One RT can generate 80 res. Even if you manage to capture and hold 3 more RTs immediately, you'll only have earned 320 res. Add that to the starting 100 and you only have 420 res to spend before Fades start taking down your towers. Can you seriously expect to relocate, lock down another hive, and make even ONE minibase in that time? I don't think so.
Aliens would have to have little-teamwork/suck in order for this to work.
I like how thats at the bottom of the list. Because theres no way your going to be able to lock down that much res that quickly before fades come.
You either get shotties, or get farms which lag the server.
The only way this could work is if the alien team were the following roster.
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You'd be better off just electing the rt's instead, it does the same, but for cheeper, and more effeciently.
No real purpose here, is not applicable to about 90% of everything, doesn't actually win games (as such).
I'm sure it's fun to do when it works, but if it works... you're likely to see the Ready Room team jump into action. F4!
Turrets and OCs need to be REMOVED FROM THIS GAME!
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they do work efficiently to scare off those NSplayers
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Then the NSplayers that are scared of them think, cool, those are good, I should place lots of them.
Lockdowns cannot work in tournament 6v6 due to the Kharaa's faster res and the skill of the players involved.
Your LD strat is too expensive to work against decent Kharaa. You should have a total of 3-4 RTs, A1 and PG tech researched/ing within 2 minutes. This works best if the middle hive is unoccupied.
Lockdown that hive first, with at most 4 turrets, and a PG. Don't build additional turrets or elect unless you want to wind up with 2 RTs nodes and A1/W1 marines vs fades and onos later on.
Now your course is locked. You cannot lose that LD at all costs, but you cannot only focus on it or you're dead. All your other RTs should be down by now, so recap and kill RTs.
Fades will be blinking around around the time you successfully recap some RTs, so get W1, AA and SOME shotguns to counter them.
Next LD the other unoccupied hive, and now, REINFORCE the original LD with more sentries, maybe an elect, or else you'll see it brought down by fades. Don't overdo it once again.
Once you get 2 hives LDed down tight, all your other RTs will be dead again. Recap again, and electrify if you want to secure them. Don't bother with turrets, you need 3 to be effective, and it will cost 40 res, do less damage, have less close in coverage, and is easier to take down than elected RTs.
If you can lose from this point on, then either your team sucks, or the Kharaa got lucky with using onos.
If the aliens start with the middle hive, this can still work, but your marines will have to be good to accomplish it.
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That is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums, and that really is saying something.
OC's are the best warning system aliens have to offer. If you stick an DC infront of an OC in a actual compition match, when the marines come by your OC will hit the DC saying "Your structures are under attack"
A dead giveaway for the marines. If they kill it, then you've slowed em down enough to get there, if they ignore it, then you still have that few seconds of warning.
Unless you go SC all around the map, and have really good sense of depth with the little red circles and where exactly they would be. Your in trouble.
edit: Infact thinking abuot it, if you dont like them. Why not play CO? They're the main difference between the two game types in my opinion.
Fighting static defenses is not fun. Fighting the other team is fun. Fighting the otehr team in a game with strategic elements is even better, otherwise NS would just be deathmatch with aliens. If you think CO=NS without turrets/OCs, then you should go have your head examined. I personally don't like CO, and I only play t if no good classic servers have people on, but I'l be sure to avoid the servers you og on, since they probably have LOTS of two-hive lockdowns and OC spams everywhere. Fun.
Fighting static defenses is not fun. Fighting the other team is fun. Fighting the otehr team in a game with strategic elements is even better, otherwise NS would just be deathmatch with aliens. If you think CO=NS without turrets/OCs, then you should go have your head examined. I personally don't like CO, and I only play t if no good classic servers have people on, but I'l be sure to avoid the servers you og on, since they probably have LOTS of two-hive lockdowns and OC spams everywhere. Fun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Static defense is a part of the game. It's not particularily hard to counter, but it has a good degree of utility.
Fighting OC spam and turret farms aren't fun, but it's just as fun as fighting an unwinnable battle. Two-Hive lockdowns aren't boring because of the static defense, their boring because the marine team has already won, but the game has yet to be finished.
It was on eclipse, the Kharaa was stuck in Eclipse Command Hive, after losing 2 other hives, and the marines had almost all the RTs.
But because of the insane skulk respawn rate (10v10), marines kept dropping the moment they went into the hive. It turned into a massive fragfest for 5 minutes until I dropped 3 GLs and researched armour 3, and got a siege going.
Good stuff, and even though we marines had 5 RTs almost the whole game, I never had more than 20 res in the bank, and I couldn't even research due to having to med/ammo marines almost continuously.
We just did a standard slash and burn, then PG + mine defence, and sieged the hives for that game. But not the last hive though, both teams begged me not to drop sieges =x.
Do you ever get into that situation now? The marines can just siege the last hive. They don't have to worry about static defense. If they can't finish it because they just locked down their 2nd hive, then the game is still on. Aliens can movement rush, have a fade take out static defense, etc to get back into the game. If the commander is decent and the marines listen, then you'll see JPs and SGs or sieges, pretty quickly.
In situations where the aliens have already won, but can't finish it, it's usually a result of bad alien teamwork. Umbra + Acid Rocket + Spores + Onos + Fades + Xeno + Bile Bomb = Dead Marine Team.
I thought that was a pretty standard "I have both hives locked down" situation.
Anyways, your strat would work but why drag a five minute game out to 20+ minutes? Drop shotties and go. What are they gonna do leap at you? =-p Just make sure to scan if they get MC or SC first to combat cloaking/silence. If they get MC first get MT.
Do you ever get into that situation now? The marines can just siege the last hive. They don't have to worry about static defense. If they can't finish it because they just locked down their 2nd hive, then the game is still on. Aliens can movement rush, have a fade take out static defense, etc to get back into the game. If the commander is decent and the marines listen, then you'll see JPs and SGs or sieges, pretty quickly.
In situations where the aliens have already won, but can't finish it, it's usually a result of bad alien teamwork. Umbra + Acid Rocket + Spores + Onos + Fades + Xeno + Bile Bomb = Dead Marine Team. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This situation never happens in competitive settings becuase 1) people are good and 2) people don't use turrets.
But I'm mainly concerned about PUBS when it comes to not finishing games. Yes, I've seen marine teams that can't finish off aliens because aliens control most of the mao while marines control MS, and 2 hives. The commander patiently got enough res to outfit a heavy train, and that took a LONG time because they were constantly attacking and sporing. Two-hive lockdowns are NOT fun because the aliens are just throwing themselves at turrets while the marines just camp, waiting for tech.
Turrets don't do jack to Onos.
Just got to be patient and wait for marines to empty from the lockdown, or even wait for the commander to order an attack, then wipe out both lockdowns.
1) They wont listen to my orders.
2) They dun have a good aimming skillz
3) They will fooling around
but a turret
1) AutoMatic
2) Wont feed the aliens
3) A few turrets maybe much more useful than entire team of rines.
4) They wont blame u.
5) They have high HP
I perfer a st farm strat instead of
TRUST YOUR OWN TEAM WHILE THERE ARE NUBS.
1 more benifit
You will gain the highest frag in the team ( so nubbie)
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great! have to quote this one. laugehd my **** off
Hahaha, I'd like to see the look of the opposing team when they get slaughtered <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->