Sensory Challenge

comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
edited March 2005 in Scrim Arrangements
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1431745' target='_blank'>I challenge any group of six non-competitive players to play ONE round where they are marine against a good clan who uses sensory and to try and win.</a>

my clan will play you

we can provide a european server
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  • ThanatosThanatos Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13138Members
    I´m in.

    Used to be a clanner but now retired so I guess qualify.

    Post time and date here (I´m european so server location is no problem).

    PS. I played guys with the "knifegaming" prefix a few times so I harldy expect to win but it sure would be fun to try.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Interested, asking clan if they are also.

    "non-competitive"? You're hardly pub players. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    i dont think you understood it

    a group of six players who are non-competitive play a round against sensory aliens from a good clan (which I volunteered knife for)

    this is to prove to idiots that their wonderful sensory beating strats just do not work
  • crono1crono1 Join Date: 2004-01-20 Member: 25497Members, Constellation
    i'll play you, on the condition that i don't have 5 others on my team.

    i can singlehandedly take out any clan.

    you will get owned, just a warning.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Make sure you get some good HLTV demos. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Al_KaholicAl_Kaholic Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25821Members, Constellation
    Non-competitive, eh?

    I've been reading through the topic where the challenge was issued (sans a slap to the face with a glove LOL), and I feel I'd have fun being totally incapable of holding my own against members of the competitive scene (let alone Knife ROFL).

    But yeah, seriously.
  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    By non-competitive I mean people who play on public servers where they have all the answers to beating sensory, it's just that clan players are way too slow at adapting to realise the counters
  • Al_KaholicAl_Kaholic Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25821Members, Constellation
    How <i>dare</i> you accuse me of not being a public player!

    That 'eh' was one of consideration, not perplexion or anything of the sort.
  • NGENGE Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22443Members
    Team one: Knife

    Team two:

    Nemesis Zero
    Talesin
    SDJason
    Rapier7
    Reeke
    Xeno



    Match of the century! I wonder what kind of amazing strategies will beat knife and their use of the incredibly balanced sensory chamber.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Apr 1 2005, 08:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Apr 1 2005, 08:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Team one: Knife

    Team two:

    Nemesis Zero
    Talesin
    SDJason
    Rapier7
    Reeke
    Xeno



    Match of the century! I wonder what kind of amazing strategies will beat knife and their use of the incredibly balanced sensory chamber. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Somewhat harsh, as none of these people have given this opinion.

    If you must pick from the NSPT/Dev group, at least pick better.* <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    * Obligatory Disclaimer : No, I've not played all of these people, so it might be some might be incredibly good in that environment. Thanks.
  • UncleCrunchUncleCrunch Mayonnaise land Join Date: 2005-02-16 Member: 41365Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Hmmm .... Can i join alien? I want to chew Talesin.

    I don't know the marins skill level (no offense) but isn't it too much unfair?
    I mean even with DC the alien can win to my opinion.
    Can i join?? just to chew talesin... arrh comon!!!!

    Maybe alien can do sometjhng to help marins... only 2 sensos.
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    But who will comm? Talesin has his 100% winning streak but there's also the mighty rapier7.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    Oh no not the mighty Talesin who keeps telling us to adapt to the game he dosen't even play ?!?!?!

    Ok, on a more serious note, I have a question for Talesin. How much time do you spend playing NS on a weekly basis?
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Apr 1 2005, 03:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Apr 1 2005, 03:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Apr 1 2005, 08:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Apr 1 2005, 08:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Talesin
    SDJason
    Rapier7
    Reeke
    Xeno<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Somewhat harsh, as none of these people have given this opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Talesin:
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1431215' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....dpost&p=1431215</a>
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1431314' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....dpost&p=1431314</a>

    Rapier7:
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1430842' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....dpost&p=1430842</a>
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1431000' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....dpost&p=1431000</a>

    SDJason:
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1431313' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....dpost&p=1431313</a>

    Xeno:
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1430848' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....dpost&p=1430848</a>

    Reeke:
    Simply said he didn't have a problem with it b/c he can see cloakers easily.


    Savant would probably be a better candidate than Nem0:
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91127&view=findpost&p=1431732' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....dpost&p=1431732</a>
  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    I'll play for Team NS Forums.
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    Well I'm up for it
  • ChareyCharey Join Date: 2004-08-07 Member: 30441Members
    I <b>HAVE</b> to see this demo both sides.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    I think you misunderstood the points in some of those threads. If the ALIEN team isn't a clan (no preplanning, each player doesn't know exactly how the others play), then the marine team has a much better chance of winning against sensory first aliens. That is why pubbers keep saying that sensory first is beatable, while clanners say it isn't. The fact that aliens can't plan who will go to which exact point on the map to place chambers makes the alien team that much weaker, and gives the marine team a much better chance.

    Basically, you completely misinterpreted their statements (which may have been made poorly to begin with, but I believe that was their basis).
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Apr 2 2005, 01:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Apr 2 2005, 01:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think you misunderstood the points in some of those threads.  If the ALIEN team isn't a clan (no preplanning, each player doesn't know exactly how the others play), then the marine team has a much better chance of winning against sensory first aliens.  That is why pubbers keep saying that sensory first is beatable, while clanners say it isn't.  The fact that aliens can't plan who will go to which exact point on the map to place chambers makes the alien team that much weaker, and gives the marine team a much better chance.

    Basically, you completely misinterpreted their statements (which may have been made poorly to begin with, but I believe that was their basis). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's exactly why the clanners are going to be the aliens. The pubbers say "We can beat SC aliens because of X, Y, and Z strats." The clanners say "X, Y and Z only work becuase the aliens don't have teamwork, and SCs are still overpowered. Against clan-level aliens with good teamwork, X, Y and Z won't do jack."

    Whoever wins in this contest proves their point of view. If the aliens rape the marines, then it's another argument for how overpowered SCs are. If the marines dominate the aliens then the clanners are wrong and need to adapt.
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    If my aimbot worked on cloaked aliens, i would play <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EruyomoEruyomo Join Date: 2004-08-31 Member: 31098Members
    edited April 2005
    A non-competitive team versus a clan...
    Sounds like the clan will win whatever chamber they have.

    Maby not the best way to prove that sensory chamber is overpowered (if it is).
  • UncleCrunchUncleCrunch Mayonnaise land Join Date: 2005-02-16 Member: 41365Members, Reinforced - Onos
    @im lost
    It may not be a problem for all players. Skilled player can "adapt" (haha) to the strategy easily. It depends more on the map itself than a strategy. I often see good players from different clans play efficiently together. No need to talk sometimes.
    _______________

    To my opinion it's more interesting to study sensory with only 2 chambers diplsayed. I mean: we know that if the aliens display the 3 sensory chambers on the map exactly where they want: They have the upper hand in the early game and may fullfill the next objectives (hive, fade etc...). For this PCW... ok we know who wins.

    Only 2 sensory chambers changes everithing :'Focus sux', scent of fear radius is not enough large (my taste), cloaking is slow. Study in which way the aliens start to loose in this case may help to solve the so called "sensory" problem.

    Honneslty a clan which plays a PCW try to play the best team they can. Or at least a decent opponent which can (maybe) counter his (sensory) strategy. When you loose one of the sensory your "Sensory kung fu becomes crappy"... And at that exact time sensory becomes UNDERpowered...

    Try this:
    Marins team stay Alien will drop only 2 senso. Alien team include 2 players from outside. It doesn't take an hour to explain a strat (you do that; senso will be here ... k let's go). If the second hive is up; aliens have the right to build the third sensory chamber. It'll be more fair play.
  • SDJasonSDJason Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16841Members
    This would be fun... however one match wouldnt decide anything

    Non Clanners Verses Clanners......

    Give us 5 matches on 5 random maps (some can be completed)

    Let each of us try our own strategies......


    Id do it as long as any competitive nature was taken out cuz itd be frickin FUN

    ~Jason
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    I propose these match(es) played next weekend or one after it and I am ready to command in that game. That list some had is unvalued due people havent been asked. I would like to have people with low pings there so it really would be honest(sorry aussies and yankees). I would say let alien have the 3 sc, You just need to scan one of them and reach it, not so hard.


    Comrade could make list in the first post about voluntiereed players and the time it would be held. And get all state-of-the-art things like HLTV
  • DemanufactureDemanufacture Join Date: 2004-03-29 Member: 27581Members, Constellation
    I've got the feeling knife will win the rounds before they even got fades <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EmanonEmanon Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16254Members, Constellation
    What level of clan are we talking about? omega or delta?

    GP will be willing to scrim as we are tring to get ready for the nslearn tourney, when and if that happens. We are not competitive but we can hold our own.

    We would be willing to participate and host, maybe a HLTV server too if an audience is present.

    Just looking for experience.
  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    If the aliens win, then it won't prove anything, other than the fact that clans have an advantage when they play as a team against non-clanners.

    If the marines win, then it will prove something, depending on the strategy that they used.
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Apr 1 2005, 02:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Apr 1 2005, 02:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Team one:  Knife

    Team two:

    Nemesis Zero
    <b>Talesin</b>
    SDJason
    Rapier7
    Reeke
    Xeno



    Match of the century!  I wonder what kind of amazing strategies will beat knife and their use of the incredibly balanced sensory chamber. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I would pay to see any decent cal team vs this team above.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Emanon+Apr 4 2005, 01:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Emanon @ Apr 4 2005, 01:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What level of clan are we talking about? omega or delta?

    GP will be willing to scrim as we are tring to get ready for the nslearn tourney, when and if that happens. We are not competitive but we can hold our own.

    We would be willing to participate and host, maybe a HLTV server too if an audience is present.

    Just looking for experience. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    knife is european.
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