Ns In Linux

TheDestroyerTheDestroyer Tooobah Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18123Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Tux on an Kharra Hunt</div> <img src='http://destroyer.evilsquid.net/pics/ns.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

That picture says it all. That is a Linux desktop with NS running. Apparently, <a href='http://www.transgaming.com/' target='_blank'>TransGaming Technologies</a> offers a service ($5 [US], from what I understand) to make games cross format.

One of the things you can do is Steam (notice in the picture the Steam icon in the lower rightish). So, now you Linux fans can play NS without switching over (for a fee).

My friend, the one who is trying this out, says it runs great. Told me he was getting something like 70fps on his Linux machine. I will be trying this out on my computer, which has both Linux and Windows, to see if there is any difference in the performance. More to come.

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  • ALLmightySPIFFALLmightySPIFF Join Date: 2005-03-02 Member: 43033Members, Constellation
    Hi, im the friend mentioned in the post. Now, I feel I need to add some clarity.

    TransGaming Technologies offerers a program called point2play (which is just a front end for cedege, but it makes it all nice) and with that I was able to install steam and regular half-life just fine.

    I could not however actually install NS with it, what I had to do was copy a pre-installed windows version to my steam directory. THEN it worked fine.

    Dont belive me? stop by www.evilsquid.net 's server [69.93.122.154] or ns.evilsquid.net about midnight central time.

    Cheers.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Is fullscreen working ok?
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    there is a few NSers that run from lunix IIRC...

    I do know however that the steam dedicated server files are extreamly pewpie on lunix.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Oh btw I assume that Cheating Death wont work properly under linux?
  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    i have gotten ns to work on wine and dosbox, i cant say it runs well, but it does run lol.
  • riftwingriftwing Join Date: 2004-03-28 Member: 27573Members
    edited March 2005
    Yea, NS has worked through wine and cedega (previously winex) since it was released. This is because Half-Life has a opengl renderer and there's no need to translate the directx calls. Half-Life has been able to run in linux through this fashion for years now albeit when valve switched to steam it did cause some problems. The Steam issues are resolved now though. As far as Half-Life 1 is concerned, it runs just as fast using cedega as it does in windows.

    Half-Life 2 also works with cedega although the performance isn't near windows and may take awhile to get that far although it's still playable. This is because Half-Life 2 is entirely directx and makes use of directx 9 which cedega doesn't fully support, yet.

    I've been playing ns since it was released and I've been running linux since ns's release as well and it's worked out pretty well.The only problem running Half-Life still has is that the microphone doesn't work on SB Live cards and Audigy 1 cards as far as I can tell.

    If only game companies ported more of their software to linux, Cedega and Wine would not be needed.Cedega and Wine are more of a ghetto solution to the problem seeing as it's just a implementation of the windows API.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    This thread just convinced me not to get Linux, but to get linux when I get a new machine <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Atleast coding with linux and games compatibility is advancing though.
  • strikeforcestrikeforce Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22523Members, Constellation
    Sorry to bring this up but I'm running NS in Cedega 4.3 and I seem to have a huge fps drop compared to windows. Can you tell me what settings you have it running on. I have both xp and linux FC3 on my machine with both running ns 3.0 final properly however I've obviously not tuned it correctly.

    I have a 6800 256Meg Card
    2.8 Ghz intel.
    Dual os's.

    1 Gig of Ram with a 1.5 Gig swap approx.
  • ALLmightySPIFFALLmightySPIFF Join Date: 2005-03-02 Member: 43033Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have a 6800 256Meg Card<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Is that ATI or nVidia, and do you have the newest drivers in both cases.

    Im going to go ahead and assume you have an nVidia since the ATI for the meg range is usually around the 9000's

    I use Point2Play to manage my games, and on that the only non default setting is the winver, which is set for winxp.

    You might want to check the agp meg setting to make shure they correspond to your card, since I have a pci express card i left those at default too. RIght now NS is running at about 70fps for me, and does the same in windows.
    On NS i do run in windowed 800x600 mode, openGL.

    Hope that helps.
  • riftwingriftwing Join Date: 2004-03-28 Member: 27573Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thaldarin+Mar 20 2005, 02:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thaldarin @ Mar 20 2005, 02:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This thread just convinced me not to get Linux, but to get linux when I get a new machine <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Atleast coding with linux and games compatibility is advancing though.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Compatability with games is not an issue. Games run just as well on Linux as they do on Windows, perhaps better than Windows in some cases. However, not many games are made for Linux since it's not a large share of the market (albeit more than apple). As far as running Windows programs in Linux I suppose you are correct in that respect.
  • strikeforcestrikeforce Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22523Members, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-ALLmightySPIFF+Mar 21 2005, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ALLmightySPIFF @ Mar 21 2005, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have a 6800 256Meg Card<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You might want to check the agp meg setting to make shure they correspond to your card, since I have a pci express card i left those at default too. RIght now NS is running at about 70fps for me, and does the same in windows.
    On NS i do run in windowed 800x600 mode, openGL.

    Hope that helps. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry the card is an nvidia card. I have set the meg to run 256 I am using point and play. I can usually range in windows from 70-100 depending on situations generally 100 is consistent.

    In linux its more 60 as consistent. I'm thinking that i might have left vsync on in someway with the nvidia card so I'll google later on to see if thats the issue. I run it at 1024x768 at the moment.

    I'm unsure but about a few more details so I'll try and google a bit more and see if I can find it. I'm assuming it would automatically run with opengl since I can't change those settings in configure.

    Currently however I can't get the mic to work have you gotten your mic to work in it? Have you run any further tweaks that I don't know about? I have the latest Fedora rpm compiled drivers at the moment. So all I did was just follow yum I'm assuming that it would all be compiled that way.
  • KenHidakaKenHidaka Join Date: 2004-08-27 Member: 30960Members
    Steam, HL, and all other Steam-based games have been able to run on Linux since about a month after Steams release. This isn't anything knew, really. Back when I played CS 1.6 in a clan, two members ran on Linux, and one played NS with me every now and then. I was going to install Linux about a year ago, and was reading on it, and just decided to not bother. But it's been possible for while now. Without any program or companies help.
  • TheJimTheJim Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34080Members, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-KenHidaka+Mar 21 2005, 12:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KenHidaka @ Mar 21 2005, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Steam, HL, and all other Steam-based games have been able to run on Linux since about a month after Steams release. This isn't anything knew, really. Back when I played CS 1.6 in a clan, two members ran on Linux, and one played NS with me every now and then. I was going to install Linux about a year ago, and was reading on it, and just decided to not bother. But it's been possible for while now. Without any program or companies help. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wheres your point?

    The thread starter just thought he would bring it to our attention incase we didn't know which i have to admit i didn't!

    All i can say is the day i use linux is the day it can play every game i have like windows! At the moment this is not possible so linux has to wait for now!

    It is nice to see that it is getting better compatibility for games tho!
  • strikeforcestrikeforce Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22523Members, Constellation
    I didn't understand the point of that we are not disagreeing that it can run under wine however the range of games under cedega is vastly improved.

    Anyways it was interesting to see other people using linux and finding out what there performance is like on linux. Thats my point I suppose.
  • riftwingriftwing Join Date: 2004-03-28 Member: 27573Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TheJim+Mar 21 2005, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheJim @ Mar 21 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-KenHidaka+Mar 21 2005, 12:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KenHidaka @ Mar 21 2005, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Steam, HL, and all other Steam-based games have been able to run on Linux since about a month after Steams release. This isn't anything knew, really. Back when I played CS 1.6 in a clan, two members ran on Linux, and one played NS with me every now and then. I was going to install Linux about a year ago, and was reading on it, and just decided to not bother. But it's been possible for while now. Without any program or companies help. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wheres your point?

    The thread starter just thought he would bring it to our attention incase we didn't know which i have to admit i didn't!

    All i can say is the day i use linux is the day it can play every game i have like windows! At the moment this is not possible so linux has to wait for now!

    It is nice to see that it is getting better compatibility for games tho!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Linux has always been "compable with games" and usually plays games better than windows due to better memory management and less use of system resources. However, not enough companies make games that have linux versions and until that starts happening it with never be equal to windows in respect to gaming. Fortunately, the user base is constantly growing and overtook Apple awhile ago. More and more game developers have begun to support Linux although there's a lot more room for improvement since these are only a small fraction of game developers. Cedega is not in any means a native port, all it is is an implementation of the windows API on linux and will never equal a native port. It is a poor solution to the problem but it works for the time being.
  • BeowulfGrendelBeowulfGrendel Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13775Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://forums.unitedadmins.com/index.php?showtopic=28970' target='_blank'>Cheating Death Linux support</a>
  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    This smells suspiciously like advertising to me.
  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    It didnt start off like a huge advertisement but it definitly seems to be heading that way the more i look at this thread.
  • strikeforcestrikeforce Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22523Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kenichi+Mar 24 2005, 08:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kenichi @ Mar 24 2005, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It didnt start off like a huge advertisement but it definitly seems to be heading that way the more i look at this thread. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry if it sounds like one I was asking for help in regards to the settings with cedega?
  • 2ply2ply Join Date: 2004-03-26 Member: 27535Members
    Hm, I guess this is kind of an old thread, but I'm just curious, how did you guys install NS? I don't have XP dual-booted, so only Fedora is installed. Everytime I try to install NS, it gives me the menu, but when it starts to actually install, I get a stack overflow error.

    Does anyone know how I could resolve this? I can play many other games under cedega, just NS won't install.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-2ply+Apr 22 2005, 03:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2ply @ Apr 22 2005, 03:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hm, I guess this is kind of an old thread, but I'm just curious, how did you guys install NS? I don't have XP dual-booted, so only Fedora is installed. Everytime I try to install NS, it gives me the menu, but when it starts to actually install, I get a stack overflow error.

    Does anyone know how I could resolve this? I can play many other games under cedega, just NS won't install. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Install it on a windows machine and copy the \ns folder to disc and paste it in to the steam half-life directory on your linux machine.
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