Can Anyone Help?

LaetLaet Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39385Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Virus i think</div> Well basically ill keep it short incase it happens again, but my pc keeps just resetting without warning. It doesnt reset properly i.e shut down then reboot, it simply resets itself. its probably a virus but it resets far too frequently for norton to scan at all. it happens anywhere from a minute after the pc is back up to an hour after. ive been on for about 2 hours and its reset like 7 times. I need a removal tool if anyone knows which virus this is, or if anyone had the same problem could you tell me how you fixed it please? thankyou

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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    That sounds more like a heat problem to me, not a virus. Get a can of compressed air, open up your PC, touch the metal parts of the case and, being careful to keep the can upward (If you hold it upside-down, you'll be spraying liquid in to your PC instead. That's never good.) dust out the fans and heatsinks.

    If that doesn't help, consider applying new thermal grease to the CPU, or even buying a new heatsink/fan. How is the airflow in your case? (Ideally, I would say that two fans in the front blowing in and two fans in the back blowing out is optimal. But I'm really not sure about this.)'

    Failing that, try moving it to a cooler room or removing the side of the case and using a large room fan to cool everything.
  • LaetLaet Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39385Members
    Hmmm i tried removing the side of the case a few times but tbh i cant remember what the results were :/. Ill remove it now and leave it off allday and see how it goes.
    the metal on the inside of the case side feels cool if that has any difference, but i suppose if the mobo was too hot the case wouldnt necesarily feel warm.
    i haveee one fan on the mobo and one fan on the back blowing outwards.
    theyre already pretty dman noisy but it doesnt really bother me so anyone know how to increase fanspeed?
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    Chances are, it's at the highest it can go. Unless you like ball bearings flying around your case, I wouldn't fiddle with it. Try getting fans with better cooling ability, instead.
  • LaetLaet Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39385Members
    Whats this about grease? last summer my pc ran fine with the case on ETC. and its not even summer yet, it was really hot back then so im not sure about the room temp. a little while ago a wire got in my fan and damaged it, then the guy at the shop left my pc on too long and melted my mobo so i had new fans and a new mobo. im guessing that perhaps these fans are just too weak for what my pc needs?
  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    I use this free virus scanner. Even if it is just a heat problem having a reliable virus scanner and scanning often is still a good practice.

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  • LaetLaet Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39385Members
    I have both avg free and norton <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. but this brings me back to my problem, my pc resets too frequently for me to run a virus scan,t hats why i asked for tools. Ive removed my side cover and its not reset in a little while so i think it may indeed be a heat problem. thanks anyway <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    Yeah often what happens is CPU fans start turning slower and slower as time goes on and more crap gets into them...

    The CPU builds up heat and in order to prevent melt-down, it powers itself off..

    I've also seen it where someone had changed their settings in the BIOS to auto-poweroff when the CPU got to a really low heat.. It was flipping off 2-5 minutes in every time..
  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    Thermal paste is a compound added between the CPU and Heatsink to aid in the transfer of heat from the CPU to Heatsink, if applied to thin or to think heat builds up alot faster and doesnt disipate. Its not something i like to mess with.

    Could also be other problems other then heat, a failed fan on the video card is a common one, faulty RAM causing memory errors.

    One that hasent been suggested is Windows, thier is a setting that automatically resets your PC on a serious error.

    Found under system>advanced>startup and recovery and untick auto restart.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    The main question I want to clear up is, do you get any warning or countdown.

    ie. Does the system count down from 60 in a window telling it will reboot (doesn't sound like it, just making sure).

    If so, then it is a virus, but it sounds like a heat issue or faulty hardware. May also be a broken Power Supply unit also, but heat is the most common problem. Google a CPU temp program and see how hot your machine is running.
  • TheDestroyerTheDestroyer Tooobah Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18123Members, Constellation
    If its a countdown shutdown, Start/Run/"shutdown -a"

    Oh, if you need some fans, contact me before friday. I have some discounts at Xioxide.com that I can't use, due to lack of money. I would be glad to give them to someone who needs them. Had some discounts on fans, HDD coolers, and this neon lighted powersupply I wanted to get to match my new glowy case.
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ie. Does the system count down from 60 in a window telling it will reboot (doesn't sound like it, just making sure).

    If so, then it is a virus<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This kind of shutdown is not always down to a virus. But is caused by the RPC Location service folding in on itself. Seeing as everything uses RPC, the system shuts down in order to recover itself.

    If you need a program to measure temperture, then use <a href='http://www.lavalys.com' target='_blank'>Everest</a>. Go to Computer, then Sensor, and it will give you a read out of all the sensors and their readings that are in your PC.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if applied to thin or to think heat builds up alot faster and doesnt disipate<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is true. Thermal compunds, be they silicon, silver or artifical based, they can easily damage your CPU. Too little, and the micropores in the HSF base aren't filled, and the remaining air acts like a thermal pocket, causing increased micro-location temperatures, which build up and heat everything CPU based up. Too much compund is actually thermally resistant, and will insulate the chip, casuing it to burn out.

    A good way of testing for a heat shutdown is to try and fire the system up immediately after it switches off. If it comes back on immediately, then it is not CPU heat related. If not, then your processor is burning up. Increase airflow, get a better cooler, blast out any dust, these are all ways to increase cooling.

    The most common cause of thermal shoutdowns is PC location. Never have your PC in a desk, or anywhere of a confined airflow. If your PC is shutting down, and is in a desk, then put the PC on top of the desk, then try it. If it doesn't shut down, then you know the cause.
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