Expendable Marines

Sirus · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">late in the game</div> well if uve ever been playing NS and been under attack and things are looking grim or been in a situation where u guys need to secure a certain area, but dont have the resources? well heres the solution, a Marines with a LMG is expendable. Go get urself killed! I cant count how many times my team is being conservative when a fade is attacking with bile bomb, and everyone has LMG's after spawning and are shooting occasionaly.(im the one who chases after it with a mad dash, i almost always shoot a whole lmg clip, and a pistol clip, and then i proceed to chase whatever it is with a knife. so if u see someone like that, its probably me =), i usually call everyone stupid after i die,because they sat back and did nothing with their lmgs while i went suicidal) But imagine this. 2-3 freshly spawned marines with only a lmg and a pistol and their trust knife chasing after any alien. I guarantee you that the chances of the alien surviving is slim, unless it can escape quickly. Marines dont seem to realize that if they have a lmg then they are expendable, i blame CS , but NS is not CS so stop being so damn conservative. U can get the objective if u make sacrafices, oh well u die u spawn 10 secs later but u just got urself closer to winning.

eye · November 2002

i do this all the time, it works great. a fad hitting a base will almost always run away if suddenly a crazed suicidal guy with a gun charges after it.
i've even scared off an onos like this before.

here's a tip though, if your LMG clip is running out, take notice of your sroundings, try and find one laying on the ground, most of the time it will have half a clip in it. if done properly, two lmg clips and pistol = one dead fade.

funny side note; i was holding down a hive for a while, i went in with full ammo in both my lmg and pistol, i lasted so long with out back up and torrents i ran out of ammo, then just started knifing anything that came in. it's amazeing to watch two aliens of any build for some reason run from a knife...

MeltedSnowman · November 2002

I do that too.

Why don't more people do that?

mwells · November 2002

Heh, I do it often, but not often enough. Today, we were trying to secure the visitor's center in ns_hera late-game, Fades were rushing our **obscenity** left and right, we'd just lost the holoroom and we were having a hard time holding the third hive off. So anyways, the commander told me to distract those fades, make 'em think that we're desperate. So I continually suicided myself into their fades, killing 3 in the process, I charged them with my LMG, they ran, I pulled out my pistol, plugged 10 rounds, then I pursued them with my knife and sliced 'em. It was satisfying, even though I died over 50 times doing that. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>

EDIT: Forgot to mention that we lost, badly. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

biodecay · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Nov 18 2002, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>well heres the solution, a Marines with a LMG is expendable...

...U can get the objective if u make sacrafices, oh well u die u spawn 10 secs later but u just got urself closer to winning.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I agree with you absolutely. The worst possible place for a marine to be is at the spawn point, doing nothing.

For the resource-starved marine team, basic marines ARE a godsend @ 1RP per spawn. Decide on a specific objective, grab a few clips, group up and move out. If you're hurt and you're close for a spawn, don't call for a medpack - you could spawn twice for the cost of that medpack. Much more effective.

The basic-marine-rush tactic works best with 4 spawn points and all armour / weapon upgrades (only costs 250 RP TOTAL to upgrade weapons / armour fully, which makes a SIGNIFICANT different to basic marine effectiveness - do the math: 5 HA/HMG marines, once-off, or highly effective basic troops for the rest of the game...)

and remember, teamwork = exponential effectiveness increase. A selfish player often does more damage than good.

Jorec · November 2002

I too rush like a madman when its looking grim, alot of the time I kill the fade, Why? Because they aren't prepared for a marie emptying his entire LMG, the Pistol clip in their face <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'>.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'>

FlatlineUTD · November 2002

I do that to handle Fades too, but it's not always suicidal. In my experience, most people that use Fades are primarily good at hit and runs - they're not too skilled at melee combat. I can usually scare a few Fades by going toe-to-toe with them when I've got a shotgun and armor.

Since they're not good at melee, they run around behind a corner and try acid rockets again, but I'm right there to cap 'em in the head with a point-blank buckshot round.

It's pretty fun watching a group of 3 Fades run away from a marine. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

APESHTkser · November 2002

I completely agree, I'm always rushing some hit and run Fade all alone while 6 "teammates" stay hiding in the base. And I almost always get down to knife before I die. CS could definitely be to blame for the conservative players. Sometimes it is important to be conservative in NS, but when Fades are trapping you in your own base you gotta hit em as hard as possible or its game over.

Sirus · November 2002

in CS if u got killed u had to wait like 3 or so minutes most of the time if ur playing with good people, all u need is one person who doesnt want to be seen to hide or evade the whole time and plant the bomb

Mr_Bean · November 2002

Heh I remeber one day I got on a server with four players of like mind as has been expressed here and I for the hell of it did the same thing

So we charged

<i>Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with cloud and acid shell,
Boldly they ran and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the towers of Hell
Ran those six Marines

Fade to right of them,
Lurk to left of them,
Onos behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with cloud and acid shell,
While turret factory and command chair fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death
Back from the towers of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six marines

Flash'd all their knives bare,
Flash'd as they turn'd in air,
Knifing the Khaarra there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the lurk-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
Fade and Onos
Reel'd from the knife stroke
Shatter'd and sunder'd.
Then they ran forward, but not
Not the six marines

They ran and they ran
Through the Halls of Death
Over the towers of Hell
through the Corridor they rushed
Into the Hive they dashed
Through the Halls of Death
Over the Towers of Hell

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the charge they made,
Honor those mad marines

The Hive stoud there
They cut it to ribbons
Many a skulk fell
To the Six
Respawn they could not
Chance of Victory was slim
But that mattered not
They came to do a job and they would finish it

The hive lay dead
So did four of they
Only two remained
Of the six marines
But that mattered not
More work there was yet to do
And so they charged on
And on they ran
Through the Halls of Death
Over the towers of Hell

No ammo they had
Handguns where emtpy
Back to back they where
Those Brave Marines
Through the Halls of Death
Over the towers of Hell</i>

Then a gourge came by and heath sprayed them to death the end <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

(*Adapted from Charge of the Light Brigade by Lord Tennyson)

NeonJam · November 2002

Methinks Mr. Bean worked to hard on his little story..

nice though..great ending! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> getting killed by a <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'>'s healing spray is funny <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Mr_Bean · November 2002

Its a true story at that

V_MAN · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr Bean @ Nov 22 2002, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Its a true story at that</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
big **obscenity** is what it was lol

Injury · November 2002

I don't see any mention of mines in that story.. somewhat unsettling.

Good story by the way.

Mr_Bean · November 2002

Well we had a Noob command(Thusly the part about Charging Onos and all that)

It was a wild rush however I was the Decoy so I died to the Towers of Hell and had to Chase Cam the last two guys <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Benolan · November 2002

I find suicide to be a religion, whether I play marines or aliens.. which is why I never ask for better toys.. cause I'll lose them.. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Injury · November 2002

'tis true, Super Kamikaze Ninja Monkey Samurai Death Attacks usually are fun. I don't play for score, so as long as I'm helping my team, what do I care about dying?

Expendable Marines

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