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Nimbus5
Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22885Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22885Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">i hate free exp plugins</div> I love hopping on my favorite NS server, to play a nice good game of combat. Oh man, nothing is better than joining a game late, stacking the winning team, and getting free experience from it! SO GREAT! I think I'll use my free experience to get focus and cloak. No better yet I'll just go onos. Free experience plugins sure are great!
Ok...it's nearly impossible to find a good server that's not running 30 pointless plugins. All the servers that don't have every plugin known to man, don't ever have people in them. Life sucks. The only servers populated are only the ones playing co maps. Then what do you know, map change to an ns map and everyone leaves. A good game of NS is nearly impossible nowadays. If you somehow DO manage to play a game of ns and for some odd reason people stick around (maybe they think it's still combat?) marines will lose 90% of the time, for various reasons. Either they camp base, turret farm, or a moron jumps in comm. Well as I said life sucks.
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Ok...it's nearly impossible to find a good server that's not running 30 pointless plugins. All the servers that don't have every plugin known to man, don't ever have people in them. Life sucks. The only servers populated are only the ones playing co maps. Then what do you know, map change to an ns map and everyone leaves. A good game of NS is nearly impossible nowadays. If you somehow DO manage to play a game of ns and for some odd reason people stick around (maybe they think it's still combat?) marines will lose 90% of the time, for various reasons. Either they camp base, turret farm, or a moron jumps in comm. Well as I said life sucks.
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Comments
For instance, if you don't like free experience plugins, it's one thing to say so....but it's better if you try to suggest changes. Your suggestion can be as simple as asking your favorite server's admins to stop using it, or asking someone to make a plugin that gives less/no free experience to people just joining the already-winning team.
Regarding NS' popularity vs. CO's on some servers: some people will swear by the idea of looking around for less than half a dozen good servers and becoming a regular on them, rather than joining the one with the best ping at the time. It may take time to find servers where you feel comfortable and welcome, but once you do, you end up making friends with other regulars, who may also be fellow forum posters and IRC chatters.
As for your "life sucks" comment....your life is something I don't know enough about to make suggestions. Hopefully I've helped out with at least one aspect. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
well, plugins that just check if you rejoined should check if you rejoined the same team. cause maybe you accidentally picked the wrong upgrade
unfortunately many of the servers around now that dont use 99999 plugins dont get populated too often
oh and while i'm still talking about things i hate:
I hate whatever plugin it is that makes servers appear to have people in them when they're actually empty. You know those ones that like keep the last few people's names in them so it makes it seem like there are real people playing, when there really aren't. yeah...
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unfortunately many of the servers around now that dont use 99999 plugins dont get populated too often
oh and while i'm still talking about things i hate:
I hate whatever plugin it is that makes servers appear to have people in them when they're actually empty. You know those ones that like keep the last few people's names in them so it makes it seem like there are real people playing, when there really aren't. yeah...
h8
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dont worry, i hate that plugin too. i think those are bots that arent registered or something. although, i dont mind bots when they work, but not many servers have working bots. mine is prolly one of the few
I hate plugins aswell.
so you would prefer to join a game as a level 1 skulk, while everyone is level 10, and somehow kill jp's and heavies while a measely skulk?
join late plugin works in <span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>RELATION</span></span> to your teams levels. on my server, the max you can get is 4 levels. this is better then joining the game late and by God's devine grace, somehow get a level. so i'm pretty sure you don't know how free experience works.
it sounds like a good idea but what I usually see is:
5v5 aliens are owning marines. Guy joins game, joins aliens despite the fact that they are winning, he gets 4 free levels and there you go.
The only way it would maybe be beneficial at all is if someone entered an even game where everyone is level 10, which doesn't usually happen often. Other than that, the person joining the winning team will get a whole lot more free exp than the person joining the losing team. The fairest way to do things is just to not use the plugin in the first place.
earn your own levels. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::hive::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/hive5.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='hive5.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ohh yeah, an un-upgraded onos. that's a game tipper if i ever heard one.......
it's not as bad as you guys think. maybe for servers with 3 people on them, but not the bigger ones.
And as for Focus and Cloak, a Marine team that doesn't have level 1 armor and at least one individual with Motion Tracking or Scanner Sweep deserves what comes to it.
ohh yeah, an un-upgraded onos. that's a game tipper if i ever heard one.......
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One un-upgraded onos is definitely a huge boost to the aliens' defensive game. That's 1000 hp worth of living wall between you and the hive. All the onos has to do to stop jps is stand in a cramped corridor and devour them. That stops ramboing jps (which more often than not take the hive out on their own) cold. No upgrades necessary. Then, once that onos gets one more upgrade (shouldn't be too hard if the marines are constantly pushing the hive) he gets stomp, which is a tremendous boost to both him and his alien friends. Voila, the tide of the game has turned.
*think of it this way, pretend that the person who was gonna join late didn't. he was their from the start. and eventually he went onos. are you trying to say that marines will automatically lose? nobody else joined and everyone stayed in the server. please tell me what you think of this. thanks sky.
Wait, do you mean the guy joined and just sat there, or he was playing the entire game as a skulk and then suddenly decided to onos? In both cases, it'd be a big boost for the aliens, however not as big a boost as a random guy joining and going onos midgame. Reason being: before the guy who was there from the beginning went onos, he had to have died a couple of times. This gave experience to the marines, experience to buy weapons which would in turn help deal with an onos. The best players are the ones who can get experience while not giving much to the enemy team. Now, if you have a guy who just joins and onoses, the marines never benefitted from killing him at all. It's basically the same as having a guy go like 10-0 (or however many kills it takes to get 4 points) and then onosing. The marines won't be as prepared as they should be because they were effectively denied experience by giving an alien free experience.
And in your examples of a marine joining and getting 4 free points, the balance swing would be even greater. Instead of one guy nade spamming a hallway which the aliens were used to, they'd have to deal with two. All onoses would have an extra hmg to watch out for. Stuff like that makes a big difference in a swingy game.
This plugin is flawed, it should give xp realitve to the <b>losing teams experience</b> otherwise it just makes the winning team win faster.