Internal Voice

MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Just how crazy am I?</div> Okay, so, I'm kind of sure I'm at least slightly crazy. I have this little internal voice, and I know its just a seperate part of my mind. Oddly enough, I can converse with it. He has opinions, he has suggestions, and we both realize we're the same person (that actually stemmed into several conversations about how we should adress one another, since I was using the pronoun "you" for it, even though he is me)." We know our roles, and we know that I'm the one in control of the physical body, and he's never going to get to use it, assuming its even within his power. I find him to be a useful ally. I'm not quite sure how he arose, or why, but he's been there for a while.

Does anyone else have anything like this? I mean, I don't think I need any psychological help; I realize what he his, he knows his place, he never asks for any sort of control, and he never tells me to do anything I wouldn't want to, and even if he did, I could ignore it.

Thoughts? Opinions?
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    In all honesty one of the largest symptoms of a psychological disorder is the ability to discredit it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Ok, Im not a psychologist or anything, but having taken a few psyc classes, it kinda sounds like a 2nd personality. But he looks to be kinda harmless, but then I again I thought split personalities couldnt communicate or knew of each other's existence... I could always dig out my text and check if you would like.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    edited March 2005
    Meaning... what, exactly? That its more serious?

    He seems pretty good natured. A lot like me, actually. We get along pretty well, make little quips about each other, and so forth. And I can silence him if I choose to.

    Edit: If you're so inclined, Comprox, by all means. And I don't think he's a typical alternate personality, as he never has physical control.

    Hmmm, maybe next time I choose to have a conversation with him, I'll type it up.
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    Is it an actual auditory hallucination ?
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Ill do some looking tomorrow, didnt bring the book home. But I think you are also right in the fact that a split personality can also control the body. Not sure now, but I am curious <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Ill look into it more!
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-SaltzBad+Mar 13 2005, 11:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SaltzBad @ Mar 13 2005, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it an actual auditory hallucination ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not really. Think about something. Anything. Like, do a math problem in your head, or say the alphabet internally. Its like that. I don't actually "hear" anything. Its an inner voice.

    Sample conversation that I just had:

    Him: Why are you telling them about me?
    Me: I want to see if anyone else has someone like you.
    Him: Oh noes! The conspiracy is uncovered! My people are doomed!

    Yes, the internal voice actually said "Oh noes!" I understand this, because he is an extension of my mind, and we therefore share all memories and learned behaviours.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    You should get 'him' to take a personality test...

    I highly suspect you have just gotten into the habit of personalizing your thoughts for some reason, to the point where you have grown a character in your head. Most people are quite capable using empathetic ability to take on the personification of another being (many comic artists do this for thier characters), it just generally is confined to them chosing to do so. For some reason you are doing it inately.

    Its an interesting case, but I doubt it is revolutionary...
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    My advice: get rid of him. Once the doors open, they'll turn on the floodgates.
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    i argue with my self, but i dont think our crazyness is at the same level.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    sounds like what goes on in my head
  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    How is he useful? Example ...
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Mar 13 2005, 11:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Mar 13 2005, 11:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My advice: get rid of him. Once the doors open, they'll turn on the floodgates. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Isn't that a bit narrow minded? I mean, for many intents and purposes, he exists. It doesn't seem fair to decide to eliminate a person simply because they don't have a physical body to call their own.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Mar 14 2005, 02:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Mar 14 2005, 02:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I highly suspect you have just gotten into the habit of <b>personalizing your thoughts for some reason, to the point where you have grown a character in your head.</b> Most people are quite capable using empathetic ability to take on the personification of another being (many comic artists do this for thier characters), it just generally is confined to them chosing to do so. For some reason you are doing it inately.

    Its an interesting case, but I doubt it is revolutionary... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Quoted for truth.

    Why? Because I do this to, but intentionally. Whenever I think on something that is truly big, like a life altering decision I turn my thoughts into a conversation in my mind. The physical me who controls the body being represented within as well.

    You have taken this to another level whereby both voices within your mind are one and the same, and yet by some will that I divine to be your own in truth, you have chosen to accept them as different.

    If you want to continue to have things this way, then that's up to you. Personally I used to get really tired after such a "conversation" because it took too much effort to create pretend personalities of my own volition. So eventually, perhaps around when I was 15 or even 16 I don't know, I just sort of gave up.
  • TemjinTemjin Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25707Members
    haha he sounds like a awesome friend! you should give him a seperate name or something... Like bob.
    I wish I had a seperate personality...it'd get alot less lonely...
    but I wonder how things would go during sex?
    "oh yeah...do it that way.....no man.. thats not right! "
  • AveSatanasAveSatanas Join Date: 2004-06-04 Member: 29117Members
    It could be your subconscious?
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    So, do you like, converse with it out loud?

    I mean, I tell things to myself in my head, but my head never talks back.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Private Coleman+Mar 13 2005, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Private Coleman @ Mar 13 2005, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How is he useful? Example ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Eh, just when thinking about things. Like whether or not to pursue someone I'm interested in, for example. He helps to weigh the pros and cons.

    AveSatanas: I have also come to the conclusion that it probably is my subconcious.

    Cold NiTe: Wouldn't surprise me. I don't think its amazing or anything, I just consider it to be a bit unusual. And I didn't have to work to bring him into existence, he just sort of arouse over time.


    As for a name, I asked him, and he said he doesn't really see the point. Since no one but me is going to be adressing him directly, theres no reason for the formality of names. He's the only internal voice thats going to answer when I call him.

    Edit: No, never out loud. Thats just a bit too weird for both our tastes. The most physical thing I'll do is type out our conversations (as we have them) every once and a while. Unfortunately, I don't save them.
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    edited March 2005
    At the fairly remote danger of talking out my **** here, thats most likely just a formed mental habit to help you function - I would only recommend you seek treatment if its really impairing your social or everyday life.

    If all it is is you being afraid of going crazy, calm down. You're perfectly fine. You're you, thats that - and odds are its like the guy reading about Malaria that thinks he sees worms crawling under his skin. Just freaking yourself out.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    i have something like this in my mind but its only there late at night when i cant sleep

    ive had a 4 hour long conversation with mine about why he/she/it exists
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    edited March 2005
    Nah, I don't worry about going crazy. I have no reason to. But I also like to think about how someone who doesn't realize that its an internal voice produced by their own mind would think about that voice if they were in my (and my voice's) condition.

    Edit:
    Chrono: We did something like that. We agreed he was a manifestation of my subconcious. Then we talked about the benifits that could be reaped from each other. I get someone to talk to, and a biased second-opinion, he gets a continued existance.
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    I have/had an internal voice.
    It came to being from my own self doubt and lack of self-esteem. It pointed out all my mistakes and flaws, even ones that had yet to happen. It kept my in line through fear of my own failure. It no longer bothers me.

    The voice that I currently converse with is more like what Cold described. Consulting myself on large life altering things...
    Except not always large life altering things. Infact, the last conversation was more about couches and my exact thoughts and feelings about couches, also, as to what would have to be my favorite couch.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Thats kind of what mine is, Anem. Except its always been benevolent. He quickly realized that my flaws were his flaws, since we stem from the same mind.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Mar 14 2005, 12:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Mar 14 2005, 12:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chrono: We did something like that. We agreed he was a manifestation of my subconcious. Then we talked about the benifits that could be reaped from each other. I get someone to talk to, and a biased second-opinion, he gets a continued existance. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats the only reason mine is here too for some reason he is quiet when something is going on but when im bored and not doing anything useful i get into full on discussions with mine
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Mar 13 2005, 11:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Mar 13 2005, 11:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> thats the only reason mine is here too for some reason he is quiet when something is going on but when im bored and not doing anything useful i get into full on discussions with mine <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, if I don't want to talk to him, he can't talk. Although I will let him speak when things are going on, just to get his take. Half the time it just becomes us making insults about other people.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    the confusing thing about mine is that it has a much larger vocabulary then me (which is realy strange) he uses words that ive heard before but dont know the definition of and when i look them up hes used them right so it kinda freaks me out
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    If research can be believed, its mostly just confusing. Subjects with auditory hallucinations look around for the imaginary speaker, or credit people around them with their voices words. These voices will often also not be uttering totally coherent thoughts, or things as closely in synch with your consciousness as what you described.

    Its really a different ballgame. The more I hear from Cold/AneM/Mantrid about their 'voices', I'd say you're just conscious about what at a younger age is usually done intuitively - things like fear and worrys, weighing pros and cons and the whole yatta. Well yeah.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Requisite **** response: Sounds like you're a Malkavian...


    Actual response:

    Hm... I can't quite say I've ever heard of this. It isn't skitzofrenia, as you're quite aware that the 'voice' isn't real and you appear to have some form of control over it. And it isn't telling you to kill the president. And like Comprox said earlier, AFAIK w/ multiple personalities I was under the impression they were completely seperate from one another and unaware of each other's existance, so that rules that out too.

    It couldn't hurt to at least ask a few psychologists if this is indeed a normal thing or whether it merits you going to some sort of doctor. Check around on webmd.com or other places. I don't mean to worry you unneedingly, but it could be that this is just the start of a problem that could get worse. I would think its better to find out now rather than when its too late. And if not, well then you'll never be lonely, so hooray!

    If the voice says "oh noes!" it can't be all that bad. :P
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    ive had mine for quite a few years now (10 years +) and so far it hasnt affected me one bit its just some one to have late night discussions with <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited March 2005
    Feel free to contact me on AIM if you ever need to speak about it. I'm pretty open about things like this. (Hell I tolerate Pjofsky, and that's saying something! lol) And though things seem fine now, there are bound to be closed-minded people around here who will shut you down for talking about things like this.

    More on the topic of this internal conversation. I really didn't <i>just</i> use it for extreme situations, it's just that that was the point at which I deemed it more useful to internalize my own ability to make judgements and decisions and form conclusions into some kind of drawn out discussion, because if you turn it into a discussion between you and entity "X" where X is simply a sub-creation of yourself; augmented by knowledge that you know but are not conciously aware of knowing, then you can "re-open" said conversations and use them again.

    As Saltzbad mentioned, at a younger age, such as our own at the times of these occurrences, things like this are more likely to occur because we don't know the correct label for them and the formal way of dealing with our problems.

    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Mar 14 2005, 02:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 14 2005, 02:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If the voice says "oh noes!" it can't be all that bad. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mine used to say random internet terminology as well. The fact that it was capable of not being serious and more being a tool by which I could be aided proved it's safety to me at that time.
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Mar 13 2005, 11:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Mar 13 2005, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Mar 13 2005, 11:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Mar 13 2005, 11:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My advice: get rid of him. Once the doors open, they'll turn on the floodgates. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Isn't that a bit narrow minded? I mean, for many intents and purposes, he exists. It doesn't seem fair to decide to eliminate a person simply because they don't have a physical body to call their own. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh that's not my reason for getting rid of him. You should get rid of him because once one of them gets their foot in the door, other others will be scrambling to get in as well.
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