Hlguard Bugs?

Joowee · March 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">unwarranted bannings</div> Now this isn't complaining against admins or servers and such, I know that the ban came directly from HLguard (It told me). Anyway, it said I was using a suspected aimbot or something.

Normally I would put this sort of thing to a random, one off occurance but there were others in the server that were receiving the same sort of thing during my time of play, none of which were even accused of hacking during.

I'm just wondering (as I have just got back in to NS recently) if this is a known bug with HLGuard or badly setup or whatever? Help would be appreciated.

ps. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with the "[] aeRO 24/7 CoMBaT #3[] -- Max.Lv: 50 -- Added Upgrades" admin? I can't find a site or e-mail or anything about getting the ban lifted :<

XCan · March 2005

I think it's just a bad setup, they made the sensitivity too sensitive. Probably suits CS and that crap, but in NS aiming must and is naturally much faster.

typical_skeleton · March 2005

What is it...

If your accuracy is so-and-so good for too long, you get banned. It's supposed to be a fail-safe against undetected hacks, but I don't think it's designed for NS. People in NS are a lot more careful with their shooting than in other mods, most of the time...

Is it configurable? Maybe the admins turned it way too high up.

Joowee · March 2005

If HLGuard is based on reaction and accuracy, I guess that would explain why. I was using motion tracking at the time so I kinda knew where most the aliens were <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Still banned though :<

EDIT: Thanks for the replies <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Gutter · March 2005

That's funny, I just got the exact same thing on the same server. I hope there is a way to remove my ban, as they are my favorite servers.

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GiGaBiTe · March 2005

theres a bug in hlguard 1.70, that if you blink madly it will ban you for rapid fire hacks. you can stop this from happening by disabling the rapidfire detection. as for the aimbot, some servers turn their settings way down to almost rediculous levels and its easy to get banned from those for just being good.

Gutter · March 2005

I talked with one of the admin's and made him aware of the problem, hopefully he will look into it for everyone else as well.

Alcapwn · March 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (typical skeleton @ Mar 12 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What is it...

If your accuracy is so-and-so good for too long, you get banned. It's supposed to be a fail-safe against undetected hacks, but I don't think it's designed for NS. People in NS are a lot more careful with their shooting than in other mods, most of the time...

Is it configurable? Maybe the admins turned it way too high up.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I guess that means that if your aim sucks, and all of the sudden becomes good, it will get you banned?

I guess motion can cause your aim to become better, by enabling you too time your hit against aliens running around a corner.

ChimpZealot · March 2005

I've played way more than I should on the aeRO servers, and I always do fairly well... yet I've never had anything like this happen to me. However, two different people who I know and trust have been banned there automatically for unknown reasons... so I think this is definitely an issue with this server, and not HLGuard itself.

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Diablo_fx · March 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WaterBoy @ Mar 12 2005, 11:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (typical skeleton @ Mar 12 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What is it...

If your accuracy is so-and-so good for too long, you get banned. It's supposed to be a fail-safe against undetected hacks, but I don't think it's designed for NS. People in NS are a lot more careful with their shooting than in other mods, most of the time...

Is it configurable? Maybe the admins turned it way too high up. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I guess that means that if your aim sucks, and all of the sudden becomes good, it will get you banned?

I guess motion can cause your aim to become better, by enabling you too time your hit against aliens running around a corner.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Also, switching weapons..
With the lmg you spray alot, so you actully miss a lot too, even more in you are suprised or something then start shooting nothing.
Weapons like SG will give you a higher hit rate, if it dosn't count pellets..

Anyways i could be completely wrong, bare over with me... mm kay <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' />

Scylla · March 2005

I don't know how the aimbot detection work in hlguard but the only useful detection would be: on a special event (timer or better on every hit on the any target) store the current player location, weapon axle and the target location. That way you can check if there's a aimbot the aimbot will aim always at the same point (in the model). If that happens n times the player will get markled as aimbotter.

Joowee · March 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gutter @ Mar 12 2005, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That's funny, I just got the exact same thing on the same server. I hope there is a way to remove my ban, as they are my favorite servers.

<a href='http://gutternet.net/ns/co_faceoff0041.jpg' target='_blank'>http://gutternet.net/ns/co_faceoff0041.jpg</a>  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Mine too <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /> Thankfully I'm not the only one here who;ve encountered this but do you know how I could get in touch with the admin(s)? to clear this up? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

Gutter · March 2005

You can try joining one of their other servers and see if someone with a Fg tag is on there, usually they are nice enough to help.

Acrylic · March 2005

Whatever kind of server admin that would put HLGaurd on his/her server without reading up on if its 100% bug free with NS is a .... There are lots of known issues with HLG and NS and should not be used. Even the developers say the same thing, along with 70% of the UA population.

I would strongly suggest you contact the admins direct them to the UA website and forums and tell them to do thier homework. IMO

DC_Darkling · March 2005

The latest HLGuard has a NS config so they do know NS at HLGuard, yet its true that for NS you probably do need to check ALOT of settings

Joowee · March 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gutter @ Mar 13 2005, 03:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You can try joining one of their other servers and see if someone with a Fg tag is on there, usually they are nice enough to help.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Aye I tried but once you're banned from one of their servers, you're banned from them all :<

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