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TheGunslinger · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Damage</div> I did a test last night.

Killing an Ono:
No Carapace: 75 bullets /w LMG
lv3 Carapace: 125 bullets /w LMG
+ Prim Sream: 140 bullets /w LMG

Un-upgraded damage:
LMG: 10 hp/b
HMG: 18 hp/b

Upgraded damage:
LMG: 12 hp/b
HMG: 23 hp/b

Conclusions:
Onos with Carapace and charged with Primal Scream take 87% more damage than an unupgraded Ono.

LMGs don't seem to be fully effected by weapon upgrades. They deal 12 damage instead of 13 when lvl3 is supposed to add 30%.

Onos begin their lives able to take 750 points of damage. After Carapace and Primal Scream they can take 1400 damage.

It takes a calculated 60 bullets from an upgraded HMG to kill the strongest Ono. That's enough to kill two and a half stationary Onos without reloading your gun.

b00ted · November 2002

interesting, but regeneration is much better than carapace now that it is % based.

so carapce is owned by regeneration and so is all your hmg bullets and lmg pebbels

edit :: thx for the information alot, ill keep this in mind.

TheGunslinger · November 2002

I was planning to do some regen tests, but my test subject wasn't very cooperative. He found endless delight in building OCs next to my command chair. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

However, I played a few games in the past using regen instead of carapace. Now that I have this data I can conclude this:

Regen is good if you do not have a master gorge on your team. Carapace is better if you do.

Your argument is not about how long you can stay in the room, though regen extends your stay slightly and can help if you find a turret gap, but rather how quickly you can come back after a pass.

If you have a good gorge on your team, he would have set up a DC wall for you to fall back to, plus he would heal you with his spray at the same time. Giving you back the full 1400 hp in under 30 seconds.

b00ted · November 2002

Oh yeah of course, generally if your an onos, go straight for the turret tower (heal if you have to) and then wipe the respawn points, heal again and crush them.

Necro · November 2002

i only take carapace when githing ha + hmg cause those bullets hurt!

matso · November 2002

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (b00ted @ Nov 16 2002, 04:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>interesting, but regeneration is much better than carapace now that it is % based.

so carapce is owned by regeneration and so is all your hmg bullets and lmg pebbels

edit :: thx for the information alot, ill keep this in mind.</td></tr></table>
Depends. A Fade with regeneration can take 50% more damage than a skulk at one go. Half an LMG clip, about. 2 shotgun blasts. Regen gives back about 5 hits per second, which is plenty if all you are doing is acid rocket shoot-n-scoot. But it sure won't save you if you get into close combat.

Compare that to a carap fade. 73 LMG shots or 5 point-blank shotgun blasts. About 2.5 times more durability than the regen fade. If someone messes with you, you can take them down. Or survive to blink away to the closest def chamber to get your health up.

TheGlow · November 2002

Be sure to have run those tests on the new 1.03, being that 1.02 had a glitch that favored carapace more than it was supposed to.

TheGunslinger · November 2002

Yeah, this is an old thread from Nov 15th. 1.02.

I will be sure to specify in the future.

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