If your getting less than about 70 fps, i feel for you, cause i know from experiance that that makes your eyes sting like hell after about 30 mins. There maybe is no visible difference, but there is a physical difference, for exampe, setting refresh rate to 60hz, - hurts, 100hz mmm nicer, 200 hz and you get no eye strain. Not to mention the audable difference, at 50fps gun sounds like its firing slow, at 100, its nice and fast. When someone with high ping and low FPS attacks you, you can tell as you die from 20 foot away from his melee attack <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, with high ping alone its only about 5 foot. The repocussions of not upgrading your PC hurts everyone!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->#
I had a 32mb GF2 GTS, that played NS at constant 100 fps, then when it got steamified it dropped, and i don't know why <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Remember to take into consideration that FPS isnt just GFX card and CPU based, also RAM and HDD speed too.
<!--QuoteBegin-schkorpio+Feb 8 2005, 04:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (schkorpio @ Feb 8 2005, 04:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-God Killer+Feb 7 2005, 06:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (God Killer @ Feb 7 2005, 06:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it possible to have over 100 fps online? I can offline with developper 1, but it doesn't work online... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have a 6800 GT, and get 100fps constantly except for marine spawn when my p4 2.8cpu can't take 12 marines and turret factories galore -then it drops to about 80 fps <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What a **** computer <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I get constant 99.9 fps with my NEW(w00t) ATI radeon 9600xt 500/600mhz 256mb <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
you can't bash his computer without knowing what settings he is playing on. maybe he's running 1600x1200 with 16xAF and 8xAA, with triliniar filtering and max effects on and tons of porn downloading in the background. that might explain why he dips to 80 fps once in a while
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
edited February 2005
But that's what I'm doing, and it gives no dips for me, on my comparably ancient Radeon 9500 Pro. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Feb 10 2005, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Feb 10 2005, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But that's what I'm doing, and it gives no dips for me, on my comparably ancient Radeon 9500 Pro. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There's a lot more to a computer then just your video card. There's a lot more to running software then just the target application.
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Feb 8 2005, 04:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Feb 8 2005, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> GK, the guy was using a speedhack. The core engine is locked to 100fps, which is why it cannot actually exceed that number. HL2 is higher.
Sheesh. A 6800 chugs? That's actually amusing.
Radeon 9500 Pro 128 512MB PC3200 Ath64 3200+ 1600x1200 x 32 @ 100hz 12x TFSAA, 16x AF Triple Buffering enabled gl_texturemode GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR Original models, sprites, etc
Solid 100fps. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'd be tempted to bump up to 2048x1536 just to see what would happen, but the monitor can only do 60hz there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What... But... How? How is that possible? I've got an x800 XT and my fps can't even begin to compare, and I use lower of <i>every single setting</i> you mentioned.
Care to compare hl2 fps? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-God Killer+Feb 7 2005, 06:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (God Killer @ Feb 7 2005, 06:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, in your windows graphic options, turn off ; antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, vsynch. Performance not high quality. Put game in same resolution as desktop, get recent video/sound drivers, don't put direct x 9 if you have a card older than 1 year about. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Is there someplace I can get directx 8 then?
the most FPS you need is 55. 40 is good. below 20, you may have problems, after all, the human eye can only see, 13 i think? "FPS" i would like some HL2 console commands to increase FPS.
Bah, that rumor about human eyes seeing only 13 FPS is false. The frames that games use are, well, frames. Basically put, games use still pictures but they just flash very fast on your monitor. The frames that our eyes see are the same kind that movie type cameras use. They take a picture, but it's not a still, it's a blur, and simply take many of these blurs, and mold them together. Even though movies only run at about 25 of these blurs per second, they look smooth because our eyes are simply snapping these blurs together.
Please don't quote me on this though, as I'm not 100% sure.
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Feb 8 2005, 05:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Feb 8 2005, 05:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <signs shanks up for mormon spam>
GK, the guy was using a speedhack. The core engine is locked to 100fps, which is why it cannot actually exceed that number. HL2 is higher.
Sheesh. A 6800 chugs? That's actually amusing.
Radeon 9500 Pro 128 512MB PC3200 Ath64 3200+ 1600x1200 x 32 @ 100hz 12x TFSAA, 16x AF Triple Buffering enabled gl_texturemode GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR Original models, sprites, etc
Solid 100fps. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'd be tempted to bump up to 2048x1536 just to see what would happen, but the monitor can only do 60hz there. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Mine doesn't chug, although it's fully unlocked.
Oh, and I wouldn't call it 12x TAA. When I used an ATi card, I noticed no increased image quality with 6x TAA over 6x AA. Didn't really do anything for me.
-EDIT- Just saw you use 100 Hz at 1600 by 1200. Damn, nice monitor. What'd you pay for it?
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I had a 32mb GF2 GTS, that played NS at constant 100 fps, then when it got steamified it dropped, and i don't know why <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Remember to take into consideration that FPS isnt just GFX card and CPU based, also RAM and HDD speed too.
I have a 6800 GT, and get 100fps constantly except for marine spawn when my p4 2.8cpu can't take 12 marines and turret factories galore -then it drops to about 80 fps <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What a **** computer <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I get constant 99.9 fps with my NEW(w00t) ATI radeon 9600xt 500/600mhz 256mb <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There's a lot more to a computer then just your video card.
There's a lot more to running software then just the target application.
Sheesh. A 6800 chugs? That's actually amusing.
Radeon 9500 Pro 128
512MB PC3200
Ath64 3200+
1600x1200 x 32 @ 100hz
12x TFSAA, 16x AF
Triple Buffering enabled
gl_texturemode GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR
Original models, sprites, etc
Solid 100fps. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'd be tempted to bump up to 2048x1536 just to see what would happen, but the monitor can only do 60hz there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What... But... How? How is that possible? I've got an x800 XT and my fps can't even begin to compare, and I use lower of <i>every single setting</i> you mentioned.
Care to compare hl2 fps? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is there someplace I can get directx 8 then?
Please don't quote me on this though, as I'm not 100% sure.
GK, the guy was using a speedhack. The core engine is locked to 100fps, which is why it cannot actually exceed that number. HL2 is higher.
Sheesh. A 6800 chugs? That's actually amusing.
Radeon 9500 Pro 128
512MB PC3200
Ath64 3200+
1600x1200 x 32 @ 100hz
12x TFSAA, 16x AF
Triple Buffering enabled
gl_texturemode GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR
Original models, sprites, etc
Solid 100fps. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'd be tempted to bump up to 2048x1536 just to see what would happen, but the monitor can only do 60hz there. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mine doesn't chug, although it's fully unlocked.
AMD 64 2800+ @ 3200+ specifications (2.2 Gigahertz)
1024MB DDRSDRAM PC3200 @ 220 Mhz CPU/10
80 Gigabyte 7200RPM 8MB Cache Western Digital HDD
ASUS 'K8N' nForce 3 Motherboard
BFGTech 6800 OC 16/6 375/850
8X AA/ 16X AF 1280 by 1024 constant 100.
Oh, and I wouldn't call it 12x TAA. When I used an ATi card, I noticed no increased image quality with 6x TAA over 6x AA. Didn't really do anything for me.
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Just saw you use 100 Hz at 1600 by 1200. Damn, nice monitor. What'd you pay for it?