Lowering Cpu Diode Temperatures?
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Playing since day 1. Still can't Comm.England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">70 Degrees == Bad Right?</div> Apparently my CPU Diode temperature is running at 70 degree's celcius.
(Which is roughly 158 degree fahrenheight. Eep!)
<b>Hopefully</b> this is whats been causing my restarts and I can stop
swearing at the case.
So... I need a way a way of lowering the diode temperature for the next
12 hours or so until the PC store by mine opens and I can go bug the owner ;-)
I'm gonna go look upstairs for an air conditioner and direct it into the case...
will that be safe?
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(Which is roughly 158 degree fahrenheight. Eep!)
<b>Hopefully</b> this is whats been causing my restarts and I can stop
swearing at the case.
So... I need a way a way of lowering the diode temperature for the next
12 hours or so until the PC store by mine opens and I can go bug the owner ;-)
I'm gonna go look upstairs for an air conditioner and direct it into the case...
will that be safe?
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plus something is making it run that hot, you overclock?
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I can pretty much garantee you thats it's the cause of the "random" restarts
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edit: it was my amd 1.2 t-bird
plus something is making it run that hot, you overclock?
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I can pretty much garantee you thats it's the cause of the "random" restarts
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The only time it ever restarts is during games. I run 3D programs
like Softimage all the time without problems.
Nothing whatsoever is overclocked. If anything my RAM is
under it's "proper" speed. It should be set to 200 mhz apparently
but it's only at 166mhz at the moment.
Standard ATI 5.1 drivers, XP Service Pack 1 and so forth.
My DxDiag is attached for those who wish to view it.
Also, what's up with hitting enter by yourself. Are you afraid your posts might look ugly?
Take off the heatsink and check the thermal grease... re apply if necessary
Stick one of those large window fans on the side of your case... works wonders......
Turn the AC in ur house all the way up... even if its winter......
Stick ur comp in the fridge..... or freezer......
LALALA
The end
BTW if its a prescott... they are rated to 69C normal non stop operation, so if its at 70C only sometimes it probably isnt the cause of your restarts
Most likely, its ur PSU that is causing the restarts....(most cpu restart problems are either bad ram or almost always PSU's
ANything below ~400 Watts with a P4>2.6 is asking for trouble....
What brand is it??
Download something like MBM(Motherboard monitor) and create a log at 1 second intervals monitoring the 12V line.... if it drops below ~12.76V-12.72V (this is where mine reboots usually) that might be the cause of your reboot...
~Jason
That said, I've already had an Athlon T-bird blow out from consistent 60C operation, and seeing how my current Athlon XP is at similar temperatures, I'm already researching heatsinks.
After that T-bird blew out, I bought an Athlon XP as a replacement (not the same one as mentioned above) and wanted to ensure it'd have lower temperatures. To do so, I researched heatsinks, and found that at least for the AMD processor socket type I was researching, <a href='http://www.thermalright.com' target='_blank'>ThermalRight</a> is more or less an undisputed king. <a href='http://www.zalmanusa.com/' target='_blank'>Zalman</a> garners similar respect from some people, but my last purchase was from ThermalRight, and seeing the results, my next will very likely be from ThermalRight as well.
[edit]I also heavily recommend looking up instructions from the heatsink and thermal paste/grease manufacturer you got the material from. For instance, if you bought a heatsink from one of the two companies above and a miniature syringe of <a href='http://www.arcticsilver.com/' target='_blank'>Arctic Silver</a>, then find the installation instructions on both of their websites and read them completely.
Why bother with the packs? Just pack the whole computer in ice! Problem solved!*
*Warning: Problem may be exacerbated.
I think that some you do need to buy fans for, but's no major problem.
After my XP2000+ started getting a bit hot (fan was dying on old heatsink) i decded to look for a cheap heatsink that would keep it cool. I found arctic cooling had a damn good but cheap heatsink.
<a href='http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=14&disc=' target='_blank'>http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=14&disc=</a>
I think that some you do need to buy fans for, but's no major problem.
After my XP2000+ started getting a bit hot (fan was dying on old heatsink) i decded to look for a cheap heatsink that would keep it cool. I found arctic cooling had a damn good but cheap heatsink.
<a href='http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=14&disc=' target='_blank'>http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=14&disc=</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have my sneaking suspicion that Thermalright may have a silent partnership deal with the makers of Panaflo or Delta fans; those are the only 2 brands that seem to get listed as "recommended," and some of their more expensive models of fans can get over $10. That said, I discourage trying to use the heatsink alone. If it says you can put a fan on it, get at least some type of fan -- in a size that will fit, of course. If your motherboard supports it, try to get a fan that has a plug meant to be put directly into the motherboard instead of just the power supply. Some motherboards automatically shut down the computer when they sense the fan isn't rotating (stuck, broken, whatever).
Antifreeze does bring up a good point: heatsinks made by other companies <i>can</i> do a respectable job of cooling. Some even look better. Many are cheaper than the companies I suggested. As for me, I figure I'd rather feel like I wasted $10 or $20 or $30 extra on a heatsink too good for my personal needs, instead of putting myself at any extra risk -- no matter how slight -- of needing to pay >$100 on a replacement CPU later.
I think that some you do need to buy fans for, but's no major problem.
After my XP2000+ started getting a bit hot (fan was dying on old heatsink) i decded to look for a cheap heatsink that would keep it cool. I found arctic cooling had a damn good but cheap heatsink.
<a href='http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=14&disc=' target='_blank'>http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=14&disc=</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have my sneaking suspicion that Thermalright may have a silent partnership deal with the makers of Panaflo or Delta fans; those are the only 2 brands that seem to get listed as "recommended," and some of their more expensive models of fans can get over $10. That said, I discourage trying to use the heatsink alone. If it says you can put a fan on it, get at least some type of fan -- in a size that will fit, of course. If your motherboard supports it, try to get a fan that has a plug meant to be put directly into the motherboard instead of just the power supply. Some motherboards automatically shut down the computer when they sense the fan isn't rotating (stuck, broken, whatever).
Antifreeze does bring up a good point: heatsinks made by other companies <i>can</i> do a respectable job of cooling. Some even look better. Many are cheaper than the companies I suggested. As for me, I figure I'd rather feel like I wasted $10 or $20 or $30 extra on a heatsink too good for my personal needs, instead of putting myself at any extra risk -- no matter how slight -- of needing to pay >$100 on a replacement CPU later. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree with that. Thats why i have a 3400+ heatsink on a 2000+ CPU.
Chilly
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