Using Linux

SandstormSandstorm Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21205Members
I've decided it's time to learn Linux. The best way to go about this is to use it for day-to-day things. However, I'm still leaving my "fast" computer as Windows, mainly for gaming purposes.

I have a spare computer, with a Pentium II, 256MB of RAM, and a 6GB HD. The following things need to be fixed:

1. The CMOS battery is dead. It should be easy and cheap to replace.
2. The BIOS does not recognize my 40GB HD. I don't think 6GB will cut it for day-to-day usage. On top of that, goggle has revealed I need to buy an ATA/66 PCI Controller to fix this.
3. The spare Ethernet card is non-functional. I had a wireless card in it, but I'd much rather use Ethernet with Linux, since it's much easier to configure. I've already set up the Wireless Bridge for it too. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

The thing is, will it be worth trying to use Linux on a Pentium II, especially when I'm used to the speed of my Pentium 4? Would I be better off buying the cheapest Pentium 4 I can get? It would give me an excuse to upgrade my RAM for 512MB to 1GB or more at 400Mhz, since the two 256MB 333Mhz modules would have been a waste.

Comments

  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Do you plan to use it as a graphical workstation? If so... buy an AMD. Though that might tempt you to use your current P4 as the cast-off Linux testbed. Cheaper, too. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    If you're just going to be working in command-line mode, a P2 is perfectly worthwhile. Most of the overhead comes from the GUI, and if you're just using command-line, it should be pretty quick and responsive. Also, unless the ethernet card is physically fried, there's a good chance that Linux can still use it.

    6GB is right on my 'iffy' line, honestly (assuming a graphical workstation, full-everything install). 8GB would be perfectly usable, and that includes the full OS... there's almost nothing else that needs to be downloaded. The only exception is if you go with RedHat... their prepackaged version of XMMS can't play MP3s, as they didn't want to deal with the legal hassle. Download a clean copy from the XMMS site, and you'll be good to go. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    On the subject of distributions, I'd have to suggest RedHat Fedora. Stay away from Mandrake... least stable distro out there, even if it is user-friendly*. You'll also learn more, but still be comfortable in the new OS environment with Fedora, and there are a wealth of manuals online and included on the distro ISOs.

    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>*if your user has one tooth and drools more than talks.</span>
  • Jim_has_SkillzJim_has_Skillz Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12475Members, Constellation
    Yes linux... We shall breed and multiply.

    BTW I would suggest dumping firefox and using Lynx as your main browser. It will allow you to claim your nerdiness faster and easier.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Apart from cryptic commands, crappy GUI, few games that are compatible, it's pretty cool <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Well, at least its free, open source, it free software to: run all kinds of servers, play music, play SOME games, to program (DUH).

    Is it true that it store all configs in little files scattererd around the HD?
    Instead of in a registry? Not that I would know what difference it would make in speed or so.
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    yeah zaggy, and when something is so broken that you want to reinstall the program, all you have to do is slide that one little config file from your backup floppy into place, and everything is glorious.

    linux doesnt seem to have any real features that im missing with windows, so ive no incentive to switch. im nerdy enough to be immune to spyware and virii, and all my software is free anyway. switchin would be a gigantic hassle of learning something completely different and poorly documented.
  • SandstormSandstorm Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21205Members
    The last version I used was Redhat 3. I used X-WinPro to run X-Windows remotely, along with telnet. I think I'm going to do that again.

    The Ethernet card is definitely gone. There's no power on the jack. Windows 2000 says it cannot start the device. Oddly enough, Windows 2000 can see the 40GB drive, but it can't use it because the BIOS doesn't see it. So, it looks like I'll be spending about $60 for IDE and Ethernet card.

    I put in some PC133 memory I had left on a dead Pentium III motherboard. I'll have to run memtest86 sometime to check it. 768MB of RAM on a Pentium II sure does seem like a waste. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    I used Mandrake for a while for the sole reason that it included the at76c503a wlan driver instead of the craptastic atmelwlan driver that comes with most other distros. I realize I could install the at76c503a driver, but I'm lazy, and ATI's linux drivers suck. I payed for Cedega to play games and then the built in gfx driver broke and ATI makes crappy linux drivers.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sandstorm+Feb 2 2005, 05:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sandstorm @ Feb 2 2005, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oddly enough, Windows 2000 can see the 40GB drive, but it can't use it because the BIOS doesn't see it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's a software hack to make linux recognize all of a large hard drive even if the BIOS only recognizes part of it.

    I can't remember off the top of my head what it's called, though. I'll look around, unless Talesin remembers.
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