What To Do...

ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi! Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
edited January 2005 in Off-Topic
What to do...? What should I do? I thought this was as good a place as any, what do you do when your girlfriend tells you she was raped last summer by a family member, and you are the only one she has told? No sympathy, only advice please.

EDIT: Family member older than her, he has been accused of doing it to another girl before. My girlfriend has also been a self harmer since and has becoming, best way to describe it would be an 'anorexic'. Some days she eats fine, others not at all.No suggestions saying "rambo in and start hitting him".

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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    edited January 2005
    Ask her take it to court, and get the bastard locked up for good.
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    The two of you should get professional help - I imagine it's good that she's confided in you... and I'd love to say 'confront the family' but I really don't think that would be a good idea. There are professionals who know the best steps to take after rape - talk some of them and get their advice.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Get professional help, get it taken to court. The guy should be going to jail for what he did, and your girlfriend deserves the proper help required to get over her personal damage.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-shanks+Jan 27 2005, 01:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (shanks @ Jan 27 2005, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The two of you should get professional help - I imagine it's good that she's confided in you... and I'd love to say 'confront the family' but I really don't think that would be a good idea. There are professionals who know the best steps to take after rape - talk some of them and get their advice. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    on top of this, if there have been aqusations before, and now she confides that it has happened to her... unfortunately, its most likely to have happened to someone else, and fairly certain, unless this family memeber is stopped, he will do it again. I STRONGLY suggest seeking professional help, for your girlfriends sake. I had a relationship with a wonderful woman who was raped as a teenager, and I promise you, your girlfriend needs help. Also, at some recent point, the authorities need to be notified, dont let him do this to anyone else, your girlfriend now has the power to protect others. She also really needs you now, and she wouldnt have told you if she didnt feel you could be there to support her. Do just that, be there for her, and do what you can. Chances are, you'll never fully understand what she went through, but that doesnt mean you cant hold her when she needs it, or take her to a movie when she needs to forget it. You also might benefit from anonymously calling a professional and asking his opinion of the situation, and the best step to take first from your standpoint.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's a tricky situation.

    I think you should talk to her and convince her that her incestuous scum sucking **** relative needs to go to jail. But of course if you involve the police and she refuses to press charges, well... :/


    She should definately get some counselling too. And above all else, be understanding if she doesn't want to play hide the sausage with you for some time.
  • cookmancookman Join Date: 2003-12-22 Member: 24654Members
    "rambo in and start hitting him"
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    from what ive learned from loveline with adam corrola and doctor drew, she is going to be severely effed up unless she gets serious help.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    irrelavant post removed
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    You comfort her and alert the authorities. Is this a trick question?
  • cookmancookman Join Date: 2003-12-22 Member: 24654Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nikon+Jan 27 2005, 05:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nikon @ Jan 27 2005, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-cookman+Jan 27 2005, 02:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cookman @ Jan 27 2005, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "rambo in and start hitting him" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    reported <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "Oh no! Satire! You be da evil of tis' earth, mon."

    There is a definate border between irony and offense. Learn it.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    irrelavant post removed
  • cookmancookman Join Date: 2003-12-22 Member: 24654Members
    edited January 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nikon+Jan 27 2005, 05:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nikon @ Jan 27 2005, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->irony is supposed to be humourous.

    the is not A THING funny about this situation, use tact.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You need to calm yourself.

    I don't care how serius you see this matter as. I only used very simple irony. I don't care wether or not you found it humuorous or not. My reply was a conjunction of my opinion and the oppertunity to amuse myself in the process.
    I don't know if Thursday got offended by my reply, I don't know him, but I doubt it.
    I think you're too up-tight (You're probably gonna report me for saying that).
    Damn, do you also call the police if someone crosses the street, for red light, in a deserted town?

    I don't know if you feel any more need to incline your domain over ethics, morale and humour, but I'm gonna stop getting more off-topic for now. Carry on with the serius help, for this serius matter.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    nikon, there is no need for a post just to state that you reported him. that is just asking to start a fight if you were offended by his post, report it. theres no need to try to get in an argument with him. cookman, theres no need for you to continue the argument. is it impossible for you to apologize? impossible to respect someone enough to understand that maybe they are not who you wish they were? this argument couldve been avoided by either one of you, but neither of you chose to avoid it. lets get back to the topic at hand, which is a very serious one.
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thursday+Jan 27 2005, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday @ Jan 27 2005, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My girlfriend has also been a self harmer since and has becoming, best way to describe it would be an 'anorexic'. Some days she eats fine, others not at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That sounds more like depression than anorexia. Try and get her to see a doctor.

    As for the main issue at hand. Talk to her about it, and try to get her to take action. If she doesn't, push at it, but don't go overboard. Tell her how you feel about the whole situation. Tell her you want to see action taken against him. That letting it go will likely leave the chance open for it to happen to someone else in the future, especially if it's happened before it did to her (as you seem to have said). Be there for her every step of the way. Especially if she does decide she wants to take action.

    If she doesn't, then you have a bit of a dilemma. But I'd still recommend you get the authorities involved regardless.
  • groKKingmImIgroKKingmImI Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34003Members
    Above all else, <b>get professional guidance</b>. Avoid confrontations without help from a professional. That doesn't neccessarily mean you have to force her into it, instead you can serve as a proxy for the counselor, if she doesn't want to see him. I'd recommend not heeding advice like forcing confrontations or just about anything unless a professional recommends it.
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    Really though...if you think you can...beat the **** out of this guy, you might regret not doing it...wait never mind I'm a horrible person to get advice from.

    What I mean is...<i>Hire</i> someone to beat the **** out of him.

    Then do the whole police/law suit thing.

    Also get your girl some help, I'm not a huge fan of shrinks or therapy and the like, but it works for some people.
  • groKKingmImIgroKKingmImI Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34003Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jan 27 2005, 06:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jan 27 2005, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also get your girl some help, I'm not a huge fan of shrinks or therapy and the like, but it works for some people.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No offense, but this isn't a matter of something working for you or not. Exacting personal revenge will only add a whole lotta legal and emotional problems to an already abysmally complex situation. Therapists aren't there to strut their egos, they want to help, and they know how to help people. Rape isn't like getting your **** kicked in high school, it's a seriously traumatic event with potential long lasting effects. If what thursday says is true about the anorexia, it means that she's developing an eating disorder to cope with what happened, and if something isn't done, it's going to get a lot worse. Have you ever met any chronically anorexic people? They don't live very pleasant lives, let me tell you that.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Obviously she's not going to want to go have sessions with a rape therapist or counsellor. So start her out by convincing her [it'll probably take some time; don't make her feel like you've abused her trust when she wanted you to keep the secret] to ring up and talk to a rape helpline over the phone, anonymously. Work it out from there.

    What relation is the family member? Brother/Uncle/Cousin, which one? You could consider [after discussing it with your girlfriend] warning everyone in the family of some of his.. tendancies.. without specifically saying that he raped your girlfriend.

    Good luck - rape is one of the worst things that can happen anybody, and it happens way too much.
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    Contact a professional.

    <a href='http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/centredetails.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/centredetails.htm</a>

    Find a location on that list that is closest to you and either call or email them and tell them the situation. Fortunately (or maybe unfortunately) they've heard many stories exactly like yours and can give you a specific course of action.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    First question: Is she under18? If so, look to see if your state has any laws regaurding child rape. I think in PA if you're under 18 you don't have to testify in court, you can just record a testimony and have that shown in court.

    Secondly, I'd try to look into her relation with the family member. Any family member that does something like that isn't worth saltwater, but she may still be attached somehow.

    I really have no clue on how to appraoch this... I'd 100% get outside help from some sort of hotline.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Aside for all the professional help that is out there and which I strongly suggest for everyones good that you make use of, there are many annonymous hotlines out their too that you can make good use of.

    If you both are still aprehensive about relating these events directly to social services, these people can be a good stepping stone to get yourself there.

    This is just another alternative I am making you aware off. And only a small first step but an important first step nontheless.

    I dont know how old you guys are but if you are still in school you might also want to try the schools psychologist or a close teacher friend. They will most likely be very hepful to you both in terms of support and in terms of pointing you in the right direction and helping you aquire the right help and such. After all, the well being of their students especially things like this is a part of their job you know.

    There are many people who do care about things like this and they want to help. They care so much in fact that they made it their career. Please make use of them. Its what they are there for.

    Dont worry about bringing this guy to court right away. True that may become a very realevant aspect in the future but right now the most important thing you need to look after is you and your girlfriends safety and well being, this includes you and your girlfriends emotional state and reactions too.

    Im not doctor but if you say she isnt eating right and such she may be be going into depression or at least havinsome ill effects from what happened to her.
    I said "your" emotional state as well b/c you being her close boy/friend (obviously you guys are close for her to confide this very personal info with you) are going to be a key supportive player in getting through this with her.

    So Please get some professional help. It doesnt have to be the police necisarily but I urge you to contact social services or someone in the related field. Try to be as open as you can with with them and let them help you get through this.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Seph Kimara+Jan 27 2005, 11:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seph Kimara @ Jan 27 2005, 11:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Thursday+Jan 27 2005, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday @ Jan 27 2005, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My girlfriend has also been a self harmer since and has becoming, best way to describe it would be an 'anorexic'. Some days she eats fine, others not at all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That sounds more like depression than anorexia. Try and get her to see a doctors. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    She got some anti-depressants last week, and is going to see some specialists soon <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> No doubt it will end up coming out as talking to me she has realised this is the main thing that is making her harm herself above everything else.

    I appreciate the comments guys, been quite useful to hear. I will give a couple of ideas to her,in paricular relation the the under 18 testimony & court related idea. The only problem she really has is, the other girl took him to court, and nothing come of it. Whats worse was it happened to her before the other girl. The relation is <i>directly</i> in the family, what scares her most is losing her family. Thanks though, appreciated <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    I know a lot of you (especially americans, not trying to be offensive here) will not even consider this a realistic option, but I would seriously pick up something blunt and beat the holy living crap out of that guy and then give him to proffesionals/authorities.

    I know I'd prolly get into some serious trouble for it but I can guarantee I couldnt live with myself had I not done it.

    Aside from that, sorry cant offer anything constructive that hasn't been mentioned already.
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-RustySpoon+Jan 28 2005, 11:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RustySpoon @ Jan 28 2005, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know a lot of you (especially americans, not trying to be offensive here) will not even consider this a realistic option, but I would seriously pick up something blunt and beat the holy living crap out of that guy and then give him to proffesionals/authorities.

    I know I'd prolly get into some serious trouble for it but I can guarantee I couldnt live with myself had I not done it.

    Aside from that, sorry cant offer anything constructive that hasn't been mentioned already. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thats seriously what I would do. I'd be off the end by now, grats to Thursday for even being able to hold onto sanity. He'd be toast in my book.

    Otherwise, listen to Seph.
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    edited January 2005
    Tell her to tell the police.

    Get that bastard locked up.

    Get her some help, and never EVER abandon her.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    Get the **** locked up.

    Thats just sick. Tell your girl you will always be there for her, and that they should stop him before he striked again.
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