An Ns Manual

NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited April 2005 in New Player Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">Tell me what you think</div> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/comm_manual/basic/index.htm' target='_blank'>An NS Manual</a>

Updated for beta 6. Lots of sweat and long nights have gone into this. So let me know what you think. For those of you who don't need a manual, you can mess around with the damage calculator.
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  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    Nice, Very in depth, will help loads...i liked reading it even though i aint new.Great work

    BUT

    its not the prittiest layout ive ever seen... it comes close to being fugly...

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  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    Can you give him some idea of how to fix it Steel Troll???

    I am a huge fan of this manual.. I also read it even though I'm not new..

    Good job Niteowl.. You r0x0r my b0x0rs...
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  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    I for one quite like the layout. Very simple and uncluttered which is important for new people.
    Of note though is that if you can't see the blue or grey behind "Marine" and "general", respectively, at the top, your monitor might be set to dark. (I noticed that when looking at it on my lab computer just a while ago which is quite dark for some reason.) Nothing that detracts from the information though.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-BigD+Jan 14 2005, 03:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigD @ Jan 14 2005, 03:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I for one quite like the layout. Very simple and uncluttered which is important for new people.
    Of note though is that if you can't see the blue or grey behind "Marine" and "general", respectively, at the top, your monitor might be set to dark. (I noticed that when looking at it on my lab computer just a while ago which is quite dark for some reason.) Nothing that detracts from the information though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's been tweked a bit, see if ti's still a problem bigd.


    esuna offered to pretty it up, so it doesn't look like it was made by a programmer.
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  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    i like it a lot. especially the damage calculator. however, i feel the background is a bit too plain. and it does not have the feel of a serious manual.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-BadMouth+Jan 14 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadMouth @ Jan 14 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i like it a lot. especially the damage calculator. however, i feel the background is a bit too plain. and it does not have the feel of a serious manual. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    see note above. a fella will gussy it up soon. Design, and look and feel, I know, is not my strong suite <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • j3stj3st Join Date: 2004-06-28 Member: 29602Members
    very good guide with much detail <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    just a small thing i noticed....i think in the damage calculator u forgot to multiply the gore damage by two when attacking structures
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  • GneralasGneralas Join Date: 2004-01-20 Member: 25523Members
    It's a very nice manual with lots of info jammed in to it, i don't think there is one problem with it what so ever.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-j3st+Jan 14 2005, 06:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (j3st @ Jan 14 2005, 06:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> very good guide with much detail <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    just a small thing i noticed....i think in the damage calculator u forgot to multiply the gore damage by two when attacking structures <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'll double check that error, and thanks for bug report.

    and thanks for the kind words everyone <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • zerwalterzerwalter Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 19023Members, Constellation
    I would suggest using either the same layout or a slightly modified version of the original NS Manual. It looked awesome!
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  • xesxes Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18055Members
    I think a sort of tree diagram would be cool. Like when a main topic is clicked it expands to show the sub-sections. kind of like explorer view in windows.

    also, this is a pretty freakin awesome guide. it'd be cool if it was included in the b6 release.
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  • N_3N_3 &#092;o/ Join Date: 2004-03-12 Member: 27291Members, Constellation
    Personally I would've liked to have seen a seperate section for marine upgrades/researches. Still a great manual though, easy to find the things your looking for and very imformative for both new and more experienced players.
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    Looks great. Only a small detail might be missing.

    I dont know bout b6 but in b5 you need an ip before u can build a pg.

    Other than that: I want a sticky for this in the new player forums.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Faskalia+Jan 15 2005, 11:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Faskalia @ Jan 15 2005, 11:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Looks great. Only a small detail might be missing.

    I dont know bout b6 but in b5 you need an ip before u can build a pg.

    Other than that: I want a sticky for this in the new player forums. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well I'll be hogswaggled, yer right <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> You DO need an IP to research phase tech. I'll update the manual (FYI, you don't need an IP to drop PGs once you have phase tech, just need them for the PG research).
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    More visual changes are on the way.
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  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    edited January 2005
    OMG <span style='color:purple'>puppypuppypuppypuppy</span>

    my second double post... sorry
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  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Jan 14 2005, 04:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Jan 14 2005, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Can you give him some idea of how to fix it Steel Troll???

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    Dont get me wrong, i love it really, i just ment that it needs more of a nice GUI with a bit of NS feel GUI to it, i love the Manual itself, it just had the look of a 1990's progrmmer worklog, it needed/needs the TLC of a person to spurce it up visualy, which Esuna is doing, but i do like it, and yes, Niteowl >me...

    <3Niteowl Good Work

    Ps: the Skulk picture and the Jet pack wearing marine are not the best poses imo, the Jp looks like he has a sore knee and the skulk looks like he's doing a piruet.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Steel Troll+Jan 18 2005, 08:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Steel Troll @ Jan 18 2005, 08:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it just had the look of a 1990's progrmmer worklog <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *sniff*

    that's the nicest thing.. anyone has ever said! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> i'm a programmer, obviously.

    And even though I don't know design, I still know it looks like the manuals has been gone over by an ugly stick. Help is on the way <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Slightly less ugly! Er, more to come, for anyone checking this link.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Alrighty then, been slaving away to make it a bit prettier. With esuna's nifty border image thingamahoochie type dealies, it's looking better. Take a gander.
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  • VadimVadim Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13889Members
    edited January 2005
    recommendation:
    - adding to the siege turret < special ability > : incredible splash damage, will blast any lower lifeform in the same room of the target into the afterlife; don't expect to spawn safely in a hive under attack by this baby

    few notes:
    - i don't recall aliens being able to regenerate their life every second without regen
    - ocs prefer players over structures?, is that true?, if it is - it doesnt always work, eg the other day i was taking out ocs that a gorge was using to kill a restower and they didn't fight back

    comments:
    - very good manual
    - i don't know what all you people are talking about in terms of it not looking good, i think its sexeh <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    edited January 2005
    [QUOTE]
    recommendation:
    - adding to the siege turret < special ability > : incredible splash damage, will blast any lower lifeform in the same room of the target into the afterlife; don't expect to spawn safely in a hive under attack by this baby
    [/QUOTE]

    Not in version B6.. that's been changed and the manual reflects the new version.


    [QUOTE]
    - i don't recall aliens being able to regenerate their life every second without regen
    - ocs prefer players over structures?, is that true?, if it is - it doesnt always work, eg the other day i was taking out ocs that a gorge was using to kill a restower and they didn't fight back
    [QUOTE]

    Again changes in B6.. He mentions specifically that the manual is for the newest version of NS


    [QUOTE]
    comments:
    - very good manual
    - i don't know what all you people are talking about in terms of it not looking good, i think its sexeh <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/QUOTE]

    It's much better than it used to be.. Niteowl has spent a significant period of time working on it, and I suspect it will pay off for him.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Vadim+Jan 25 2005, 08:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vadim @ Jan 25 2005, 08:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> - i don't know what all you people are talking about in terms of it not looking good, i think its sexeh <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh, no, it was fugly. It's like it was written by some middleware programmer on his teim off or something. Functional, but made your eyes bleed.

    It's not so fugly now.
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    The architecture for the multilingual support is almost finalized. The good news is that it'll mean no HTML work for the translators. The bad news is there will be lots and lots of little text files for you all to make. What this means that in the futures, when images need to be updated or even layout, your translations will stay in and be included in the new changes (as long as the layout changes aren't too major).

    Each content area will have it's own file, and the tenative naming structure will be

    name of html file_name of title_rownumber.htm

    So, for example, you are translating the skulk, uses. the file would be named:
    alienClasses_skulk_row9.htm


    I'll add more as I make sure this architecture isgoing to pan out.

    Thanks for all your enthusiastic offers to help translate folks!
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  • noncomposmentisnoncomposmentis Join Date: 2004-11-13 Member: 32773Members
    Slot 4 description on the Marine Weapons page is a little misleading. "Slot 4 can hold up to 3 items" makes it sound like it could hold 3 packs of mines, 3 grenades, 3 welders or some combination thereof (which would be cool, maybe, but it's not true <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->).

    Maybe that could be rewritten, if it's even necessary.
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  • FallenAngelOAFallenAngelOA Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35714Members
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    O_o UNBELIVEABLE o_O
    -fall3n()/-\
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  • VadimVadim Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13889Members
    heh didn't read careful .. sry

    Yeah the manual is pretty good. Covers all the basics. Keep up the good job.

    <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::hive::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/hive5.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='hive5.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    For translators: Please PM me your email, I'll be scrapping this serverside includes idea, it'd lead to about 50 or so files :S. I'll be sending you the templates for each page for you to translate as you will.

    NOTE: YOu should have a basic working knowldge of HTML if you want to do a translation, and you have to go through Zunni first (IIRC).
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  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    The Fuglyness has now dissapeared ... the sexyness is slowly showing itself, like a flower just blooming...

    To quote mike myers "Groovy baby"
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    The upper right hand corner of the border is all funky and misaligned. Otherwise its great. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Completely shot down my wantings to (for some reason) create a short guide to just let players that want the basics and that it to get rolling in the game, well done.

    ... what did the old one look like?
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