Marines Getting Dumber?
kiwi
Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20803Members
Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20803Members
<div class="IPBDescription">or is it just me</div> i wasnt exactly sure where to post this... i figured here was the best place because its something about marines in ns.
let me give you a little back ground info. i commed lots of games in 2.0, not just pubbies, scrims also. so i think of myself as a pretty decent comm. right after 3.0 game out i took a 6 month break from ns to concentrate on uni a bit more. now im back playing again, and i have been for 2 months.
every now and then i get back in the cc for old times sake. ive noticed that marines seem to be dumber then they use to be. when i think back to when i use to play i hardly ever had to say any thing as a comm. just the ussualy strat at the start of the game, and such and such rt is under attack. and every now and then the odd phase to x. now ive noticed to get marines to be doing what i need them to do i constantly have to talk over my mic... and even then they just seem to be going for kills.
when ever im in the cc i constantly am having idiots tell me what to do... it really bugs me because i hardly ever listen to their stupid demands and quite often end up getting ejected because i dont spam jps+shotties in 2 mins when the marines have failed to secure me anymore then 2 rts
locking down is another example. i never use to lock down anything (except on tanith) and now i find i have to lock down everything because marines fail to protect it. a pg mines and a order to phase use to be a cheap way to secure anywhere on a map. now i have to do tf+turrets+pg because the marines dont want to phase in and shoot at the fade the probably wont get to kill. they would rather go and hunt gorges or skulks. i have no problem with marines hunting down gorges and skulks. i think it is needed to win the game, but when i give the order to phase somewhere or do something, as i comm, i expect it done asap
i am not commenting on skills... marines are just as good as killing aliens as they use to be. it just seems to me that since co has been introduced marines (and quite a few aliens) have lost the stratagy side to ns... they now have almost no clue what the should be doing to win the game.
maybe its just me... maybe its just the part of the world i play in... comments?
let me give you a little back ground info. i commed lots of games in 2.0, not just pubbies, scrims also. so i think of myself as a pretty decent comm. right after 3.0 game out i took a 6 month break from ns to concentrate on uni a bit more. now im back playing again, and i have been for 2 months.
every now and then i get back in the cc for old times sake. ive noticed that marines seem to be dumber then they use to be. when i think back to when i use to play i hardly ever had to say any thing as a comm. just the ussualy strat at the start of the game, and such and such rt is under attack. and every now and then the odd phase to x. now ive noticed to get marines to be doing what i need them to do i constantly have to talk over my mic... and even then they just seem to be going for kills.
when ever im in the cc i constantly am having idiots tell me what to do... it really bugs me because i hardly ever listen to their stupid demands and quite often end up getting ejected because i dont spam jps+shotties in 2 mins when the marines have failed to secure me anymore then 2 rts
locking down is another example. i never use to lock down anything (except on tanith) and now i find i have to lock down everything because marines fail to protect it. a pg mines and a order to phase use to be a cheap way to secure anywhere on a map. now i have to do tf+turrets+pg because the marines dont want to phase in and shoot at the fade the probably wont get to kill. they would rather go and hunt gorges or skulks. i have no problem with marines hunting down gorges and skulks. i think it is needed to win the game, but when i give the order to phase somewhere or do something, as i comm, i expect it done asap
i am not commenting on skills... marines are just as good as killing aliens as they use to be. it just seems to me that since co has been introduced marines (and quite a few aliens) have lost the stratagy side to ns... they now have almost no clue what the should be doing to win the game.
maybe its just me... maybe its just the part of the world i play in... comments?
Comments
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>COMBAT</span></span>
it screwed it up... all the CS Kiddies thinking OMG! NSZOR IS LIKE CSSUCKZOR! KEWLZOR! I ROCKSOR YOU! Wait, the doggy bit meh omgWTHggbbq!
see what I mean? Combat screwed up NS forever... cause it has no elemental or strategic gameplay involved...
hehe im an admin. i get to kick annoying marines and saver aliens <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Either way it's troubling. Maybe we should set up some kind of <i>"NS Classic Heritage Fund"</i> so we can make/preserve servers with only experienced team players.
True humping is more worse than ever.
Everytime i pick up a 200 lmg ammo pack something inside me is dying <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And i usually pick up a 200 pack at least 4 times during an average ns game.
Rines are not getting dumper, but they are spoiled. Co spoiled them.
(although it is great for rines co somehow ruined ns for comms)
I want a new game mode called survival. Rines get nothing exept pistols and hand nades. This should teach them that the lmg is a great weapon and that you dont need sg at 0.30 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I want a new game mode called survival. Rines get nothing exept pistols and hand nades. This should teach them that the lmg is a great weapon and that you dont need sg at 0.30 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yupp you dont even need to take that 50ammo any more due you get at least 150 from fallen comrade.
Make one and then put the zombie-fades that has fade hp/armor but moves slower and make them crouch so people will _maybe_ know not to shoot duckfade head.
If you want good servers, I can recommend two: LunixMonster (69.93.5.186:27015) and TacticalGamer (67.19.90.170:27015). You will not see Marines doing their own thing - NS is about teamwork, and so are those servers. LM is the <i>only</i> one I play on, and it has improved my view on NS a lot.
Guns4Back2School
2frag4fun
Aero Custom Combat (I know, I know, but their extra upgrades make it more teamplay based)
the Specialists Army (when we get it back up... still waiting for the new server rig to come... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>COMBAT</span></span>
it screwed it up... all the CS Kiddies thinking OMG! NSZOR IS LIKE CSSUCKZOR! KEWLZOR! I ROCKSOR YOU! Wait, the doggy bit meh omgWTHggbbq!
see what I mean? Combat screwed up NS forever... cause it has no elemental or strategic gameplay involved... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
CO is a mistake.
Zunni: OT, deleted
lol, that is just sad.
I havent played for a few months now, i'm just doing forums-for-a-day and will start playing as soon as my final exams are over! (2 days <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> and i'm so excited)
Last time i commed, it was...disasterous. The server i used to be a regular at, an admin turned out to be an **** after months of me thinking that he was an alright-kind-of-guy. boy was i wrong. What would be great is if we get some JUST (as in justice) people getting admin spot. yeah, that would be sweet. anyway, the game. it was a custom map and literally nobody listened to me except ONE player. The others were in a state of <spawn, complain for equipment, phase, die, repeat>. Not only did i lose miserably, i also made some enemies for trying to help the team <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes, how fair is that -.-
I wouldn't say that combat screwed it up, i think its just pure ignorance. and THAT is why i'm considering joining a clan. talk before the match and plan it out, have players u can RELY ON, have ur dudes SPONTANEOUSLY do orders...etc...
Blah.