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<div class="IPBDescription">New ns map, critisism welcome...</div>Well, this is the first time I've done a NS map, but not the first time I took my hand at mapping. I believe I've got the style and 'look' the NS team was going for, but I could be wrong, so please be free to point out any errors or suggestions you might have. The layout is complete but the map needs to be optimized - the highest r_speeds are at about 800 but I should be able to bring them down with minimal effort. I'll post a complete version of the story soon, but the genearal area is within an abandoned space-port which was actually a crashed mothership before it was converted.
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Comments
Pic 1 - I like what you did with the framework on the computer, but still very complex. The floor is rather unattractive as well. The entire pic ooks very busy, hard on the eyes.
Pic 2 - Textures. Ouch. The wall textures do not match up with the slanted wall texture. I would reccomend better light fixtures also.
Pic 3 - Looks pretty cool, except for the red light flares which go through the grating. Maybe select render mode 'glow' to get a better effect. Again, very busy, and hard on the eyes.
Pic 4 - Same as # 3
Pic 5 - Neat. But the brown beams that come down have an ugly textures.
Pic 6 - Rather large area. Would look better if it wasnt so big. Is there a reason why it has to be this big?
Pic 7 - The grate floor thing on the top looks pretty cool, its support beams remind me of Quake 3 <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> But, that comes with a price; lots of planes
Pic 8 - The indented blue lighting is not too appealing to me. Get a new texture perhaps. The computer console needs to have a light over it.
Lucky I was feeling nice to say all this. Especially after I finished my history project <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
PS - None of your images worked, geocities = bad, people have to right click > properties, select > copy, then paste it in the hyperlink bar. Takes a lot of time. I would suggest getting a new host.
If you just want to show pics, go to www.hostmb.com - free, 512 k file size limit, 20 MB of space.
And a major flaw: your cielings and walls look, for the most part, like they would be hell on the wallclimbing. Even someone really skilled at it would find it rough to go through all of those bumps and protrusions.
By your comments, am I to take it that you've finished the map? Or have you just finished this area. Anyways, its a good satart, but there's a lot of room for improvement.
The first four shots are a bit iffy to me. I don't really care for the oversized red flares and the teleporty type thingys. That area just seems a bit too random to me.
My biggest gripe is in the lighting though. Try for some freakishly harsh contrasting spot lights.
Then again... don't. I don't think that kind of thing would suit this map very well. Too many dark areas would hide your architecture. You definately need more contrast though. Try for some nice spot lights running down the walls and such. You probably just don't want it too dark overall... it works good in some maps, but would be a bit much in others.
Not that I think this is too dark. It's too bright if anything. I just wouldn't go overboard with it in this one.
Personally, I like the lighting in the last shots, but I think it could be toned down a bit. Try to get rid of the washed out and pale look if you can. And of course, lighting contrast would help.
Overall it looks like a very promising start! Looking forward to seeing more.
-Edit- Greedo has a good point about the wallclimbing... I would think a bit about that.
<!--EDIT|ken20banks|Mar. 19 2002,01:02-->
As for the 'busy' feel - I was kinda going for that look. This is a ship after all and they would not have bothered too much about it looking good on the inside - especially in engineering areas such as this - I do have a 'lounge' area as well, and this will be much more streamlined.
Other than the most I really dig the lightning - it's really not what I would be aiming for, but nethertheless pretty interesting. Keep it until the map's completed and decide then wether it needs some streamlining or not.
[edit] Also, why don't use the kick <beep> Particle System that comes with NS? Some custom effects would surely look better than the sprites you used. [/edit]
<!--EDIT|Nemesis Zero|Mar. 19 2002,08:25-->
NS_BUSY!!
I'd play a map with that name. it sounds... exciting.
Visually, it's very cool and if you have any tips for making engineering areas, i.e. what kind of trouble somebody might run into, please drop me a line as my map is pretty much all engineering area.
I agree with whoever said it that those rusty bars are too big. Other than that, I can't offer you any help (besides the name suggestion above).
Reminds me of the lamda area of half-life but with alot more sci-fi feel to it.
There are alot of large areas suppose to take advantage of the marines long range capabilities.
Rust...theres alot of rust in most ppls maps doesnt bother me though lots of eye candy to drool over. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
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I think the area where the pipe meets the wall and that computer type panel should probably be spotlit. I like the way the red lighting adds to the infestation.
As far as the lounge goes, I really dig your light structures in the corner and the way you indented the walls, but the ceiling doesn't look too appealing to me... Maybe something... less broken?
As far as wanting an official stance on outdoors areas... check <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=4;t=1052;st=60" target="_blank">this</a> thread. Flayra is as official as they get. I would read the reasonings for discouraging outdoors areas on that page, and apply it to your own level. Basically, Flayra doesn't want outdoors to become the norm. Others do. Just keep in mind who is choosing what gets included in NS and what doesn't.
<b>Oh, and for the last time, there has been no sudden anti-outdoors "movement". Quite the opposite, actually. There has been a sudden wave of nice relaxing outdoors areas being displayed for an indoors game. They all look really nice, but it simply isn't what the team is looking for.</b>
Anyway, keep up the sweet work! This thing looks really detailed!
<!--EDIT|ken20banks|Mar. 28 2002,01:10-->
The only problem I hav now is the plane-count. It looks like I have to settle with either a medium sized map that is extremely detailed (The one now), or a large map that has low detail... Suggestions?