Latin Words In Natural Selection
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Sorry for the mildly off topic post, anyways, as to latin, no idea, probably some latin prefixes/suffixes/roots in stuff like celerity/phermones/carapace/etc. but, I have absolutely no idea.
<i>Kamikaze</i> ("Divine Wind") is Japanese. It defines pilots who were trained to make suicide attacks, by flying their explosive-laden aircraft into enemy targets (much like the Skulk and its Xenocide).
god.
Typhoons destroying the fleets of invaders have been recorded multiple times, dating all the way back to the 13th century, apparently.
<i>Kamikaze</i> can mean both, but in our case, the definition of 'suicide bomber' fits the context better. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
As for divine wind, it was a sort of Japanese religious belief that the gods, in the form of the winds, would trounce their enemies. During WWII, the Japanese hoped for this especially, at the brink of loss.
Strangely, months after the Japanese surrender, a huge storm system raged in the western Pacific, but, of course, too late.
Oh, BTW, you have no knowledge of latin. Onos would be plural (as it can only be masculine accusitive plural)
Oh, BTW, you have no knowledge of latin. Onos would be plural (as it can only be masculine accusitive plural) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Oh, BTW, you have no knowledge of latin. Onos would be plural (as it can only be masculine accusitive plural) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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it was from a previous debate, that wasnt my argument
edit: in fact in that old poll it was my opinion that is was "onos"
My personal motto for the Kharaa has always been : <b>"Omnia Mutantur, Nihil Interit"</b>
Now if only I could convince the Dev group to add it somewhere.....
- Shockwave
OMG!! ZOMBIE ALIENS!!! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Er, wait, thats not what Ovid meant by "Everything Changes, Nothing Perishes", is it? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(Zombie skulks WOULD be kind of cool though...)
good one, started my day off right haha
ROFL ! nice one.
Otherwise, xenocide is a greek/latin mix :
xeno : greek => stranger
cide : latin (caedere) => kill
Umbra is also a semi-shadow of sorts. For example... if you have light... and you have an object.. the umbra would be the semi-shaded area.
Umbra is also a semi-shadow of sorts. For example... if you have light... and you have an object.. the umbra would be the semi-shaded area. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Umbra is the main body of a shadow, penumbra is the blur around the edge.
fyi, Charlie didn't think of the alien names himself, I do believe Jeff Paris created them. (and on the Onos/Oni debate, it isn't latin but Mr Paris has said in the past that the plural is Onos, it was Flayra who first (officially) referred to them as Oni).
Xenocide was originally called divine wind back in the pre-release playtests but because of the large number of fart jokes that came from the name (who said playtesters were mature <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->), it was changed.
n. pl. um·bras or um·brae (-br)
A dark area, especially the blackest part of a shadow from which all light is cut off. See Synonyms at shade.
Astronomy.
The completely dark portion of the shadow cast by the earth, moon, or other body during an eclipse.
The darkest region of a sunspot.
not all that interesting...
onos is from "oh noes"?.. it's from "oh no", the "oh no's" is what you have when an onos is nearby. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I always assumed Xenocide was a combination of suicide and Xenomorph (alien). It's an alien commiting suicide (which also kills nearby humans), a xenomorph suicide; a xenocide.
and yeah, the "divinewind" name is nothing special. as previously stated, kamikaze means "divine wind", and the pilots were called that after a historical storm which destroyed a fleet of ships invading Japan.
I don't see how xenocide can mean "stranger kill" as a combination from greek and latin, it doesn't make that much sense. I think combining xenomorph and suicide makes more sense. I don't believe the devs were that clever.
::shrug::
from old manual:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The terminology for the aliens is still being developed. At the moment, we refer to the aliens, and their whole system of bacteria, lifeforms and growths, as the "Kharaa"; and the pre hive-stage presence as the "bacterium". The first TSA encounter with the aliens occurred aboard the Mongol's Sanjii mining facility. The tattered voice comm logs they extracted from the command network had one word that stood out, used again and again – "Kharaa!" "Kharaa!" Later, it was understood that this means "Watch out!" in Mongolian. By then, it had stuck.
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<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=celerity' target='_blank'>Celerity</a>
Xenocide is basically a new word made from the prefix <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=xeno' target='_blank'>Xeno</a> and the suffix <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cide' target='_blank'>cide</a>.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=metabolize' target='_blank'>Metabolize</a> is the process of <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=metabolism' target='_blank'>metabolism</a>.
Can't think of any more non-obvious ones or common use words atm.
If you do look them up.
lerk, skulk, fade, gorge; didn't I just say this? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If anyone's ever read Orson Scott Card's <i>Ender's Game</i> series, then in the fourth book entitled Children of the Mind, there is a planet entirely settled by Japanese culturals. The name of this planet just happens to be <b>Divine Wind.</b>
It further goes on to explain the relationship between Divine Wind and the word Kamikaze.
Also, bear in mind that the word "Xenocide" is used liberally in that book series... The root "Xeno" meaning "Other" and "cide" meaning "to kill".
In other words, the killing of alien species is what the word "Xenocide" means.
Bear in mind "geno" means "to bring" and when you couple it with "cide" you get genocide, or "to bring death". It has no relation to the word Xenocide even if it's just one letter different. It's interesting to note that the word genocide has the connotation of killing a different sect/belief/religion/ethnic group of human beings, and isn't just used with the killing of everything.
If you Google the word "Xenocide", all you get is mention of Orson Scott Card.
So, this leads me to believe that he invented the word.
Which also makes me think that, maybe, just maybe, the kamikaze/divine-wind/Xenocide association came from the books.
Do we have any Orson Scott Card lovers on the Dev team?
PS: Although this is interesting, it could be that they just thought that the word "genocide" would sound cooler as an ability when you spell it with an X.
Whatchoo all think?