New Server, Clan Forming

EffeidolonEffeidolon Join Date: 2004-11-07 Member: 32683Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Come if interested</div> Right now I am getting a new machine built and an old one repaired. What I am going to do with the new one is use it as an NS dedicated server here and there and I feel it should have a great capability for a high player capacity.

It is going to have this in it:

Pentium 4 3.2 GHz on an ASUS P400 800 MHz FSB
512 MB DDR RAM
Windows XP Pro
Cable @ 3.0 Mbps Download / 380 Kbps Upload

Anyone think this will be enough for 20 players if it's dedicated? It won't be up 24/7, but it will be pretty often and if it can support 20, which I think it should be able to, anyone want to make a clan?

Comments

  • NaxoNaxo Join Date: 2003-04-10 Member: 15385Members, Constellation
    Might be a bit short on upstream, unless you limit client rates, but the server in itself is faaaaaar enough.
  • EffeidolonEffeidolon Join Date: 2004-11-07 Member: 32683Members
    Well for 100$ I can upgrade the modem to 5 Mbps Download / 800 Kbps upload.
  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    Yeah I don't think 380 kbps upload is enough... 800 might be enough but it would probably cut it close.

    Also maybe get some more ram <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Another 512 would be good imo
  • EffeidolonEffeidolon Join Date: 2004-11-07 Member: 32683Members
    You do realize that 800 Kbps upload is 200 short of a T1 line right? I think it will be more than enough, and it's not so much the server in itself, it's the settings. I've decided 16 is enough anyways, and with the right calibrated settings, were looking at not lag easily, even without the modem upgrade.
  • typicalskeletontypicalskeleton Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 14011Members
    why 20, though? NS is pretty intensive.

    I'd suggest more RAM and maybe 16. I think it could do 20 at 800, but you'd be pushing it, and it wouldn't be very pleasant for a lot of players (those who are far off or have slower connections). I think it could run 16 fairly nicely, though.
  • EffeidolonEffeidolon Join Date: 2004-11-07 Member: 32683Members
    edited November 2004
    Well I've taken a look at Drake's famous dedicated server post on the forums at Steampowered. I've gone through the calculations, and your right when you say NS is intense, so I think I'm going to limit the server to 14 players, and bump it to 16 when I get the modem upgrade.

    16 is enough players for any mod really when you think about it. You don't really need 10 onos running around, that's for sure.

    What do you guys think about 14 players though?

    Running through the calculations, it says not to let your maxrate go under 3072 when determining slots, and 14 players makes 3474 so it passes.

    Do you guys see this and agree or what? The more help I can get the better the server will be in terms of pleasure. I'm talking round the clock admin controll to get rid of pesty players (when the server is not in downtime).

    *UPDATE*
    I'm not really sure if it'l make a huge difference, but I think the server is actually going to have to be made listenserver, or on a crappier comp.

    My other comp, which I was going to play from actually has no sound card, so I'd prefer not to miss out on that asset. How are these specs for hosting:

    1.7 GHz 100 MHz FSB
    512 Unknown RAM (not DDR, PC133, or SD - wierd huh?)
    Windows XP Pro
    Same connection.
  • SpaceMoogle5SpaceMoogle5 Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17643Members, NS1 Playtester
    did I leave my pance on this thread? ... wait that was comprox's place not here, sorry for the interruption.

    as you were,

    SM5
  • EffeidolonEffeidolon Join Date: 2004-11-07 Member: 32683Members
    Ah forget all this, it's too much to worry about. I guess I just wasn't made to create *cries*.

    But at least I'll be a kickass gamer on this new machine. Muha!
  • Jim_has_SkillzJim_has_Skillz Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12475Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Effeidolon+Nov 7 2004, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Effeidolon @ Nov 7 2004, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realize that 800 Kbps upload is 200 short of a T1 line right? I think it will be more than enough, and it's not so much the server in itself, it's the settings. I've decided 16 is enough anyways, and with the right calibrated settings, were looking at not lag easily, even without the modem upgrade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, a T1 line is 1.5 Mbps up and down, it is expensive though.
  • typicalskeletontypicalskeleton Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 14011Members
    no sound card?.. that isn't a big deal really. you don't even need sound to run a dedicated server (specifically). any piddly sound card would work...

    and a listenserver typically runs more poorly than a dedicated server (if i'm not mistaken).

    I wouldn't abandon it just yet. =P

    14 would be great, to me. I typically play on 14-20 player servers. when the teams get larger it becomes serioiusly detrimental to aliens, and marine teams lose focus even more quickly.

    but it seems you've given up on the idea.. ah well. want to go in on a rented server? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Effeidolon+Nov 7 2004, 11:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Effeidolon @ Nov 7 2004, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realize that 800 Kbps upload is 200 short of a T1 line right? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    800kbps is only 100 kilobytes per second, which isn't very much for a large server considering each player can easily pull 5kB/s (5kB/s * 20 players = 100kb/s, maxed)

    also this isn't 1998 anymore, T1 lines are nothing. most home cable connections easily reach if not surpass T1 speeds
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Dude all you need is more RAM, host a 12 player combat only server volia
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