Intel Active Monitor Reporting Strange Voltages

raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
<div class="IPBDescription">And temperatures</div> As of Yesterday, Intel Active Monitor came up with an alarm saying that the CPU temperature was 113 Degrees C(235F) so i checked the logs, and it said it had reached that temperature, and shot straight back down to 43 Degrees in the space of 1 second.

I thought "ok, maybe just a bug"
But a few minutes later, it said the same thing, at the same temp.

This continued for a while.
Then it started saying that voltages were changing. e.g.:

CPU voltage, normal 1.3V
It would randomly shoot down to 0.09V, or up to more than 4V


By this time i was getting worried, as it wasnt just the CPU temperatures + voltages that were changing, the case was occasionally displaying tempeatures of 116C, and most of the other voltages were also fluctuating up and down.


So i turned off the computer, and rewired most of the internal wiring.

No dice.


MBM High/low log said that the highgest temps werearound 113, and the lowest temps were -63(?) It also said that my 2700RPM fan had been rotating at 270000RPM


I'm thinking that the PSU is surging power, and so it's confusing the sensors.
Alternatively, they could be faulty sensors, but it's happening to every single sensor, so i can't see how this is happening


I'm going to take it into a shop to get checked out tomorrow, but any help would be much appreciated

Comments

  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    Since both your case and your CPU are reporting strange temps, I'd say it's probably a broken power supply.
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    My guess would be faulty sensors/BOIS.

    All those sensors are go through your bois.
    I personally can't see it being your PSU, if it was sending out surges then your gonna see more problems than your sensors reading incorrectly.

    Do you have the latest BOIS?
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UnCritical+Nov 1 2004, 05:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnCritical @ Nov 1 2004, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My guess would be faulty sensors/BOIS.

    All those sensors are go through your bois.
    I personally can't see it being your PSU, if it was sending out surges then your gonna see more problems than your sensors reading incorrectly.

    Do you have the latest BOIS? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You mean BIOS? And no, flashing the BIOS is always a bad idea unless you're doing it to recover your system, which I've NEVER had a scenario which required that to be done.
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Nov 2 2004, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 2 2004, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-UnCritical+Nov 1 2004, 05:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnCritical @ Nov 1 2004, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My guess would be faulty sensors/BOIS.

    All those sensors are go through your bois.
    I personally can't see it being your PSU, if it was sending out surges then your gonna see more problems than your sensors reading incorrectly.

    Do you have the latest BOIS? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You mean BIOS? And no, flashing the BIOS is always a bad idea unless you're doing it to recover your system, which I've NEVER had a scenario which required that to be done.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol yes, BIOS (damn typo).

    But no, board manufacturers release new BIOS's all the time, to add new features or fix small bugs.
    Examples :
    <a href='http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/' target='_blank'>Abit boards</a>
    <a href='http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_List.htm' target='_blank'>Gigabyte boards</a>
    <a href='http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/download.aspx' target='_blank'>ASUS boards</a>

    They are just like drivers. Gotta keep them updated.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    No, you update BIOS only if you have to. For example, to get a new processor supported on an old card, faulty USB2, etc. If everything works well, you're strongly encouraged NOT to change it, especially if it's something you don't need (for example, bluetooth on motherboard if you don't use bluetooth)
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    Hmm, guess it's down to preference.
    I've always used the latest, for the extra fetures and bug fixes. Especially for the Abit's NF7 series, those added features that gave you a cooler cpu and also fixed problems concerning temperature sensors reading incorrectly. Which was why I brought it up in this thread.
  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    edited November 2004
    The voltages alarms I would take very seriously. Try swapping in another power supply and see if it stops. My power supply got fried overnight by a minor power surge a few months back, the beeps saved me. My computer still functioned with incorrect voltages going through it, but it is still a serious problem.
  • WanziWanzi Join Date: 2003-09-30 Member: 21329Members, Constellation
    edited November 2004
    I had this exact same problem with Intel Active Monitor after I installed Motherboard Monitor (MBM), uninstalling MBM fixed it so I recommend removing any recently installed monitoring programs.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    i've had MBM installed for a while.

    MBM is reporting some strange things aswell, 270000RPM fan? low temp. of -63?

    I have the latest BIOS for this board
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Few weeks ago Asus PC Probe reported a higher voltage so i bought a new powersupply, works well now.
    Your problem is bigger though, maybe you should talk to the tech support.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UnCritical+Nov 1 2004, 07:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnCritical @ Nov 1 2004, 07:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm, guess it's down to preference.
    I've always used the latest, for the extra fetures and bug fixes. Especially for the Abit's NF7 series, those added features that gave you a cooler cpu and also fixed problems concerning temperature sensors reading incorrectly. Which was why I brought it up in this thread. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If by preference you mean 'preference to not take the chance in a multitude of things going wrong resulting in a fried BIOS at the least, and a ruined mobo at most', then I suppose yes its preference.
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Nov 1 2004, 06:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Nov 1 2004, 06:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If everything works well, you're strongly encouraged NOT to change it, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    would you consider this to be a case where everything is working well for the thread author?

    --

    it sounds like a bad PSU or bad sensors, but its strange for all the sensors to fluctuate at once like that, and the numbers cant be correct because the temp would never go negative, and +113C would kill your computer.

    whats the mobo model #? try to get tech support, this is a crazy situation.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    it seems to be a software issue.

    something to do with Intel acitve monitor not liking MBM.

    i'm still investigating it.

    FYI i'm on an Intel D875PBZ
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    Can you get a reading of the sensors in the bios as you boot up your pc?
    I know a few boards I've dealt with have the option of 'PC Health' in the bios.
    If those readings seem accurate then its a software fault. But if those readings are also dodgy looking. Then it's something hardware/bios related.

    And OttoDestruct, flashing your bios is getting a hell of a lot easier lately. The risks are getting lower, hell, you can even flash some boards from windows itself. No need to fudge around with floppies.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    the BIOS is reporting normal temperatures.

    Intel active monitor has been functioning normally ever since i turned off MBM(3 hours ago)

    I don't use MBM anyway.


    Problem solved!
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