Free Roaming Mode? Why Remove?

eXoeXo Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23404Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">why?!?!?</div> Why have the NS team removed Free Roaming mode in NS?

You can't do nice movies in NS becus of that. Just first person good game... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Tell me why? plz thx
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  • AfrAfr Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16240Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Its in the bug database, do a search on it.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There is a good chance that something about HLTV broke with the new spectator stuff or the Steam transition. It's crucial for the tournament that it works properly so we need to test this and fix any problems.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    im with you man, annoying isnt it?
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  • eXoeXo Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23404Members
    yeah It is realy annoying! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DnomDnom Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28173Members, Constellation
    I recently tried V 1.04 of NS and LOVED the free roam mode.

    Maybe they got rid of it because you can float in and out of walls etc? It kinda gets rid of the whole 'your a marine, and are going to be bitten to death' scaryness of the game.
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  • AjurianAjurian Join Date: 2003-10-18 Member: 21753Members
    You can still do it, you just cant use the mouse to look around so its not as good.

    spec_mode 3 in console. (I think, I hardly ever bother to use it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
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  • TykjenTykjen Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12552Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    bind keys to +moveup and +movedown so u at least can freeroam with some more degree without mouse.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    The new spectate system is crap. The old one, while not as flashy looking, gave you a better picture, and also had more spectate options to choose from.

    They need to redo it.
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  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Here here!
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  • eXoeXo Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23404Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The new spectate system is crap. The old one, while not as flashy looking, gave you a better picture, and also had more spectate options to choose from.

    They need to redo it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    YEP <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    I suppose this is just your way of egging the devs on.

    So be it. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • LazerManeLazerMane Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2135Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Recoup+Oct 31 2004, 04:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Recoup @ Oct 31 2004, 04:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Here here! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *Hear Hear!

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  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    How are they going to deal with people killing themselves to see what the other team is doing and planning? Is there a way to not render something outside the line of sight of a living ally?
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  • LazerManeLazerMane Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2135Members, Constellation
    Quick fix:

    No freelook in NS mode.
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-LazerMane+Oct 31 2004, 11:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LazerMane @ Oct 31 2004, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Quick fix:

    No freelook in NS mode. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or? no freelook without sv_cheats 1?

    ..ah no can't record clan matches then? hmm how about a sv_disablefreelook 1/0?
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    No freelook period? ::rolleyes::

    I was talking about all the options in general in the old spectate, not the freelook itself. I miss free chase, auto director, things that were actually useful when you wanted to spectate someone. Of course freelook wouldnt be enabled, but it would still be there. As well as for the outlay of the new spectate system, while it <i>looks</i> snazzy, it wastes so much space. If you go into freelook mode, and also into mini map mode, the entire bottom left of the screen is black, a perfect area to put scores, or perhaps the first person view mode, so you get it all viewed at once?

    The spectate needed a graphical improvement from the old version, but this defenantly isnt it. The new spectate system wastes too much space and takes away too many spectate opportunitys.

    I can see, however, someone is going to say "theres someone around the corner" because naturally, you can talk while dead, and with free chase cam, it might give the extreame slightest advantage. I can hardly imagine this being used besides the last man being alive, in which that case its actually fun to hear your teammates saying "ONOS AROUND THE CORNER ****EN RUN **** JESUS H CHRIST" instead of absolute silence. If it becomes a problem, disable the talk while dead function, but I doubt that will be nessarry, and perhaps make it enabled once again when the last man is alive.
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  • Head_crabHead_crab Join Date: 2004-06-22 Member: 29468Members
    There would be no point in removing free look from either classic or combat if it was fixed.

    Just keep it the way it is right now for players who are in teams, marines or aliens (team chase camera), but allow free roaming for players in the spectator team, just like it is for any other mod.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    Spectate system right now wastes too much space. In the minimap/third person or minimap/first person spectate view, I can hardly tell whats going on in the third person or first person tiny **** box in the upper left hand corner. Hell, I cant tell whats going on in the third person chase cam because its locked dead on, and the player is making so many rapid movements, swinging the camera everywhere, the only viable spectate option is the first person view option.

    And there is a point in removing free look if its .. "fixed." (changed) You can speak while dead, so you could suicide, say what the hive is.. etc, etc..
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  • Head_crabHead_crab Join Date: 2004-06-22 Member: 29468Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ha.ze+Oct 31 2004, 06:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ha.ze @ Oct 31 2004, 06:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And there is a point in removing free look if its .. "fixed." (changed) You can speak while dead, so you could suicide, say what the hive is.. etc, etc.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Read my post again.

    I'll help you a little bit:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just keep it the way it is right now for players who are in teams, marines or aliens (team chase camera), <u>but allow free roaming for players in the <span style='font-size:13pt;line-height:100%'>spectator team</span></u>, just like it is for any other mod.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That means that you are stuck to chase camera on your team when you are "dead" on a team (just like it currently is). Do the difference between being a <i>dead spectator</i> and being a <i>spectator</i>.
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  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    ya I really miss the freelook mode too! Why has it been removed? To avoid telling your mates where the enemy positions are ? I think you can disable it like in other mods. but sure there are differences between the chase cam and the freelook mode and I think I don't have to explain them here because you know what I'm talking about
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  • LazerManeLazerMane Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2135Members, Constellation
    The only time i miss freelook is when my whole team is dead and i wanna see the aliens destroying my base instead of staring at the wall....
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  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    bring back free roaming mode. You can only see your teammates if you got killed.
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  • eXoeXo Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23404Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->..ah no can't record clan matches then? hmm how about a sv_disablefreelook 1/0? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    yeah that would be lovley <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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