Acid Rockets

DominusVictusDominusVictus Join Date: 2004-10-27 Member: 32477Members
<!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> Obviously this is my first time posting in forums and as such I'm not sure if this belongs in General or Ideas forum but here goes. I've been playing NS pretty much well since it first came out and I've noticed one thing that still hasn't been fixed completely is the fades ability to acid rocket. The floor exploitation of it in most siege maps tend to end up in a nasty exchange of words between the marines in base and offending aliens. For all my time playing this game I've not been in a team nor played competively (even though I could at a practicing rate of 8 hours per day), is it okay to exploit like that seeing as how its not with the use of a illegal program ie hacks? Anyways the reason I brought this up is because I'm the admin on the WDF server (67.18.224.46:27015(Domimaro or Dominus is my sn)) and there tends to be a problem with that occasionally. I apologize ahead of time for any stupid questions I've asked - I know I probably shoud have signed up for forums a long time ago but the help willbe appreciated. <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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  • CryptopsYCryptopsY Join Date: 2004-07-17 Member: 29957Members
    theres no reason to leave acid rockets in the game how they are now
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    No one cares about Siege maps.
  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    Yeah, let's alienate a part of the community just because they happen to enjoy playing laid back games on fun maps rather than playing serious games on standard maps.

    Imo using acid rocket through a thin brush is an exploit (though I didn't even know it was still possible?), but considering the damage it does...

    That weapon should just be removed. :/
  • c4tc4t Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20619Members
    acid rocket really needs to get some more usefulness to it. for god sakes spit owns it lol.
  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Oct 27 2004, 07:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Oct 27 2004, 07:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No one cares about Siege maps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wrong.
    You dont care about Siege Maps.

    How do you wanna know if i do? Right, you dont know.
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    It's in the BT, hidden due to exploitability.
  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    If the problem is a thin brush, then make the brush thicker. It's a mapper's problem.
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's pretty commonly known that some alien projectile weapons can go through thin walls. The easiest fix for this is for the mappers to fix their maps. If you've got a window thin enough to rocket through, then the map simply needs a redesign with a thicker brush for that window.

    As far as whether it's an exploit or not: If you're a server admin, you make that decision. Is it intended in the game design? No. Is it possible anyway? Yes. Do you want people to do it or don't you? It's the same with something instant CC blocking vs. retreating aliens. Some people think it's an exploit and will insta-ban for it, some find it perfectly acceptable and won't do anything about it. Just make up your own mind, and then stick with whatever you decide. That's the only way anything important gets decided, really.
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    Not to mention hte fact, that you can build PGs through doors if the door is thin enough. This usually means instant win for rines on siege maps, as long as the door is thin enough.
  • cookmancookman Join Date: 2003-12-22 Member: 24654Members
    It's because the alien projectiles spawn a little too far away from the alien itself.

    Exampel: If you clamp yourself up against a wall and shoot a spore into it. The spore will disappear in the void. I think it's the same with acid rocket.
  • DominusVictusDominusVictus Join Date: 2004-10-27 Member: 32477Members
    Thanks for the help on the decision making part. I guess there really is no other solution to the problem. other then to keep on doing what I've been doing. And as for the guy who said nobody cares about siege maps? I'd be more inclined to say nobody cares for the likes of you or players like you period.... Just because I play siege more often then regular ns maps doesn't mean much. Although that does lead into my next question - Can I get some server IP's that contain hardcore players that don't screw around? I want the practice so some day I could join a good team instead of playing around with what the aforementioned guy would probably lable as the "Crappy" teams/clans...

    <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • notalentassclownnotalentassclown Join Date: 2003-07-23 Member: 18382Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Oct 27 2004, 02:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Oct 27 2004, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No one cares about Siege maps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You don't speak for me, or the patrons of 24/7 sieges servers.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-null011011+Oct 28 2004, 11:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (null011011 @ Oct 28 2004, 11:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Oct 27 2004, 02:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Oct 27 2004, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No one cares about Siege maps. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You don't speak for me, or the patrons of 24/7 sieges servers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or for me either

    siege maps are fun every now and then.

    Also if your the admin it depends on your personal preference, however shooting thru thin brushes is a well known exploit
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Oct 27 2004, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Oct 27 2004, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If the problem is a thin brush, then make the brush thicker. It's a mapper's problem. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    agreed.

    And leave off EEK, he's damn right (for once <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). The devs will never change the game because its exploitable on a siege map. If it's exploitable on your map, fix it, but time is not going to be diverted from whatever else the devs are doing to change something that really doesn't matter much.

    The creators of the maps released with the game fixed some spots where aliens could exploit this, (the vent above double where gorges shot bb through) why can't siege map authors?
  • eXoeXo Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23404Members
    acid rocket is fine. what can a marine do vs a FADE that stands and shoot acidic rocket with adrenaline?... Think about it.

    yeah I thought so they can just run and try to avoid the rockets and hope they survive.
  • JikxJikx Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3563Members
    Or they can just JP to its face, and let loose the sg shells.
  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-eXo+Oct 28 2004, 04:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eXo @ Oct 28 2004, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> acid rocket is fine. what can a marine do vs a FADE that stands and shoot acidic rocket with adrenaline?... Think about it.

    yeah I thought so they can just run and try to avoid the rockets and hope they survive. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or they can charge through the measly 25 damage (assuming they hit dead on) rockets and take the fade down with an HMG?

    Yeah, gorge's spit does more damage than acid rocket...
  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    Acid rocket? You must mean vinegar splash.
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