Fahrenheit 9/11
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Join Date: 2002-05-29 Member: 696Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">issues with the R rating</div> went down to local movie rental to rent fahrenheit 911 to watch with my family, but was startled by the R rating, which was for violent and disturbing images as well as language. for my mothers sake, i didnt rent it, because of the "disturbing images" warning. what exactly does "disturbing images" involve? i want to watch it, but maybe it would be a little much for my mom.
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That's an interesting way to put it.
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I'd have to agree. And I wanted to watch this. Thanks for the review guys.
You probably have seen most of them in Time or Newsweek.
that seems pretty damn violent to me
Remember, Michael Moore did try to go for a lower rating.
Dawn of the Dead comes out on Tuesday. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Seriously though, if you want to watch a <i>good</i> documentary go watch Super Size Me.
Eat only McDonald's and completely stop exercising will make you fat? Oh, the knowledge is flooding.
The guys ceased exercise altogether, and blamed hamburger. Newsflash, you can replace McDonald's with just about eveything.
This "documentary" is even worse than Michael Moore's.
<a href='http://www.truthinfitness.org/projects/mcDonalds/journal.html' target='_blank'>http://www.truthinfitness.org/projects/mcD...ds/journal.html</a>
Additionally, a lot worse happened to him than just weight gain.
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Seriously though, if you want to watch a <i>good</i> documentary go watch Super Size Me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And we've discussed it thoroughly on here. Farenheit 9/11 is not a documentary.
You want to see a real damned documentary?
Watch PBS. K-THX-BAI.
I-TVS was made for a reason, ok? To provide documentaries where people aren't going for shock value.
No Public Television where you live? Rent it, or send in an order for it from their website.
I am sick and tired of all these spin doctors trying to make money and be controversial through the noble form of documentaries. It is absolute corruption.
Yeah, my mum used to work for KERA, a PBS partner, and a close family friend is about to go work for WGBH Boston. So yeah, forgive me I am biased. But all of the documentaries that have been ignored for years are having their good name stolen so some bastage can pretend to be official.
You want to see a real damned documentary?
Watch PBS. K-THX-BAI.
I-TVS was made for a reason, ok? To provide documentaries where people aren't going for shock value.
No Public Television where you live? Rent it, or send in an order for it from their website.
I am sick and tired of all these spin doctors trying to make money and be controversial through the noble form of documentaries. It is absolute corruption.
Yeah, my mum used to work for KERA, a PBS partner, and a close family friend is about to go work for WGBH Boston. So yeah, forgive me I am biased. But all of the documentaries that have been ignored for years are having their good name stolen so some bastage can pretend to be official. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A documentary is Marty Stauffer giving a monotone narration of bear cubs in the wild.
A documentary is NOT playing stupid music over clips of video and telling people it's presented without bias.
And I LOVE those nature videos. Maurty Stauffer's voice was one I grew up hearing because of all the videos of his I've seen. That and travel videos by Rick Steves, as his advice has proven extremely effective in my experience traveling.
Anyway, the music that is tacked onto the video IMPLIES the bias. It is unstated, but not without notice.
When did Moore *ever* claim Fahrenheit 9/11 was unbiased?
And I LOVE those nature videos. Maurty Stauffer's voice was one I grew up hearing because of all the videos of his I've seen. That and travel videos by Rick Steves, as his advice has proven extremely effective in my experience traveling.
Anyway, the music that is tacked onto the video IMPLIES the bias. It is unstated, but not without notice. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm agreeing with you, no sarcasm.
When did Moore *ever* claim Fahrenheit 9/11 was unbiased? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When the bastage decided to call it a documentary. I dunno if I can ever respect the man for demeaning something that I love in that way.
BTW: 404, much appreciation.
When did Moore *ever* claim Fahrenheit 9/11 was unbiased? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When the bastage decided to call it a documentary. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Definition: Documentary. (from Google's "define:<word>" search)
1) a film or TV program presenting the facts about a person or event
2) Customarily an <b>interpretation</b> of theoretical, factual, political, social or historical events or issues presented either objectively or <b>with a specific point of view.</b>
3) In audiovisual records: (1) A nonfiction motion picture film having a theme or viewpoint but drawing its material from actual events and <b>using editing and sound to enhance the theme</b>. (2) Still photographs having a theme or viewpoint but showing actual situations realistically.
4) a non-fiction film which usually, although not always, <b>has a particular point of view</b> regarding its subject matter...
I'm sensing a trend.
When did Moore *ever* claim Fahrenheit 9/11 was unbiased? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
When he said everything in the movie was true.
When he touted his big pack of gaurd-dogs that would kill any attempt to refute any part of the movie.
When he went on and on about fact checkers and lawyers.
Micheal Moore = Liberal Rush Limbaugh
I'm not saying he's an angel. I'm not saying F9/11 is 100% true. I'm just saying that you shouldn't yell at him for being biased when he has no duty to be unbiased and never claimed to be in the first place.
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When the bastage decided to call it a documentary. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Definition: Documentary. (from Google's "define:<word>" search)
1) a film or TV program presenting the facts about a person or event
2) Customarily an <b>interpretation</b> of theoretical, factual, political, social or historical events or issues presented either objectively or <b>with a specific point of view.</b>
3) In audiovisual records: (1) A nonfiction motion picture film having a theme or viewpoint but drawing its material from actual events and <b>using editing and sound to enhance the theme</b>. (2) Still photographs having a theme or viewpoint but showing actual situations realistically.
4) a non-fiction film which usually, although not always, <b>has a particular point of view</b> regarding its subject matter...
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I know that Documentaries present an opinion and a point of view. But an opinion and a bias are different in that a bias is much stronger and can often impair judgement heavily.
The worst part about the bias in the 9/11 film is that it is forced on the viewer and validated over and over. No one should EVER make a documentary where the point is to convince someone else to think the way the producer of the film does. I'm sorry but it just isn't right.
Coil I have a lot of respect for ya, but if you tell me that Fahrenheit 9/11 should be held as an equal to a real documentary I will be incredibly disheartened.