Not that I want to bring this back up, but just to defend myself:
I'm not trying to diss dialers, I'm speaking from experience. Until about a few months ago, I only had dial-up, in fact, aol. I used to download a lot of stuff overnight, and im not saying that dialers shouldnt dl the training map, just that it would be kinda pointless because they cant play the game itself. ns isnt singleplayer, and i have tried to play games online with dialup, but the lag is too much on anything more intensive than an rts or some rpgs. Every time i tried to play any fps: ns, ut, cs, dod, there was way too much lag for me play, and im sure it slowed down everyone else as well. so when i say dialers shouldnt play, im not saying it because i hate anyone with dailup, but because it truly is unplayable, and makes it very annoying for anyone who does have hispeed.
so there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and what do you mean making up quotes? the first two lines of my sig are obviously not quotes, and the last is an inside joke from high school.
<!--QuoteBegin-ReK_+Oct 19 2004, 10:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ReK_ @ Oct 19 2004, 10:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just that it would be kinda pointless because they cant play the game itself. ns isnt singleplayer, and i have tried to play games online with dialup, but the lag is too much on anything more intensive than an rts or some rpgs. Every time i tried to play any fps: ns, ut, cs, dod, there was way too much lag for me play <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hehe,
sorry for jumping into the middle of this fight <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I have to say that I have played TFC since HL came out and NS since it came out (2yrs on the 31st!) and until january of this year I had 56k
I was in the top division of the UkTFCL and NS was never a problem. Just because you can't play it does not mean all 56kers can't
Anyways I've been away for a while and I like the progress thats been made.
Also...Once your done don't forget to let us beta test first so we can figure out that if there are fifteen jp's stacked into the corner then the map inverts all textures >_>;;
Also...Once your done don't forget to let us beta test first so we can figure out that if there are fifteen jp's stacked into the corner then the map inverts all textures >_>;; <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Iv'e heard that it releases a model of flayra that runs around and tells you what engine NS2 will be on <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
KK, please noone reply for a while so I get bored and go to bed! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Meat_Popsicle+Oct 20 2004, 10:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Meat_Popsicle @ Oct 20 2004, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if i record a demo using the inbuilt feature, will ppl be able to watch it without having the map on their comp? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> wow, i never thought of that.......
you need the mapfile to be able to playback a demo. so if you want to make a demo viewable by everyone, you would have to make the demo, and convert it to an avi.. or directly record it as avi with other programs like e.g. fraps.
Soz to derail things again but the guy talking about dialup lag and basing it on AOL needs to have things straightened out for him.
AOL Dialup isn't 56k, it's a disease.
It sounds like AOL was costing you about 10000bps on your connection, which seems to be the case with a lot of AOL Dialup users I talk to. Whenever I used to see people with a ping of 440 I used to ask if they were downloading 'movies'. It turned out that the vast majority of them had AOL so now whenever I see them with a 300+ ping I just give them my condolences.
P.S. If you're going to reply to this post please don't mention AOL, simply refer to it as 'the disease'. Mentioning it 6 times in this post alone has led to me contracting cancer so I suggest you steer well clear of that abbreviation.
hmm, might hav to knock up a demo then as im reluctant to release it without things like the level change, pickupable welders (as without the weld point the sounds can overlap), triggered round start etc which is up to the devs really
<!--QuoteBegin-[Sorcerer]+Oct 20 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([Sorcerer] @ Oct 20 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you need the mapfile to be able to playback a demo. so if you want to make a demo viewable by everyone, you would have to make the demo, and convert it to an avi.. or directly record it as avi with other programs like e.g. fraps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> to go almog with this..i woudl suggest recording a demo than using fraps or something to capture what us ee-- better frame rates overall <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->---btw that goes for captuurubng anyhting, if u record demo and play its decent playabuility...try to do it straight with fraps and its a slide show for you :'(
On a side note: "The Disease" is a pitiful excuse for an internet connection, I cannot belive you managed to function a simi normal life without going insane cause of it. "The Disease" is like P33R 3V1L!
the point was that Rek had said people without hi-speed should not play. Keef has no problem with DL'ing huge things (obviously since he has Steam installed - we ALL know that is not a small install). He just didn't like being told he doesn't have the right to play the precious map.
As for the map itself ....
When will the map be done ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FYI yes, on another side note I do not mind DLing big files. I frequently DL overnite getting 100+ MB. lol, but actually I DLed Steam on like a T3 line. I drove 2 hours to go to a LAN party and ReDLed Steam there[Latest version](i had it Installed B4 but had lost it in a reformating) Reno, NV if anyone cares.
lmao chill out.. not really sure how to go about this anyway cos of the file size, might hav to whack it into windows movie maker and lower the res <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
edit: uploading now, its about 16 megs and not the best quality in the world, it was either 16 megs or 255 megs cos windows media player is just so damn good and im not really in the mood for 255 meg uploads right now <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i must say, i got a chill when i saw the movie !! and no i dont thik it was form a draft <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
whoever who can come up with a good climatic soundbite for running in and sieging the hive at the end gets a cookie <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Zaggy+Oct 25 2004, 06:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zaggy @ Oct 25 2004, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> FINALLY! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ya I saw that link like last month ... I have been using those mini maps for a bit now but 2 of the mini maps are not accurate... if you use them make sure you back up your originals like I did. I had to put back the one for I think bast and another one becuase the map was not showing up right and was more of a hinderence than not. The rest I am using as the named mini maps and like them very much <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 26 2004, 03:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 26 2004, 03:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> exactly what do you need from Flayra's end again meat_pops? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why are you acting like his personal message boy?
a change level entity and a trigger round start is what i need, ive pretty much blagged all the other problems weve had but the above is outta my hands
<!--QuoteBegin-Meat_Popsicle+Oct 26 2004, 09:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Meat_Popsicle @ Oct 26 2004, 09:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> a change level entity and a trigger round start is what i need, ive pretty much blagged all the other problems weve had but the above is outta my hands <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What about the preplaced welder issue?
<!--QuoteBegin-Rue+Oct 19 2004, 05:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Oct 19 2004, 05:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ReK_+Oct 19 2004, 10:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ReK_ @ Oct 19 2004, 10:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just that it would be kinda pointless because they cant play the game itself. ns isnt singleplayer, and i have tried to play games online with dialup, but the lag is too much on anything more intensive than an rts or some rpgs. Every time i tried to play any fps: ns, ut, cs, dod, there was way too much lag for me play <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hehe,
sorry for jumping into the middle of this fight <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I have to say that I have played TFC since HL came out and NS since it came out (2yrs on the 31st!) and until january of this year I had 56k
I was in the top division of the UkTFCL and NS was never a problem. Just because you can't play it does not mean all 56kers can't
Anyways I've been away for a while and I like the progress thats been made.
/me begins to hand out cookies <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> some 56k runs faster than other...
depends on what the wiring type is (differnt types of wire conduct better than others)
<!--QuoteBegin-JezPuh+Oct 26 2004, 09:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Oct 26 2004, 09:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 26 2004, 03:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 26 2004, 03:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> exactly what do you need from Flayra's end again meat_pops? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Why are you acting like his personal message boy? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> To bring attention to this map.
yes, i realize that the disease is slower than most dialup services, although, quite unbelievably, i have encountered slower. and i do leave it on overnight as well, but i get most of my big files from friends who have hi speed.
on a side note, the disease's browser, which is required to be running in order to connect, is also a ram-hog. it is meant for n00b users who are either too lazy to learn something else, too stupid to learn something else, or just like the not-so-pretty colours and buttons.
for a programming class a few years ago, i built in the aol sounds like "Welcome, You've got mail" into my game, purposley to annoy people.
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I'm not trying to diss dialers, I'm speaking from experience. Until about a few months ago, I only had dial-up, in fact, aol. I used to download a lot of stuff overnight, and im not saying that dialers shouldnt dl the training map, just that it would be kinda pointless because they cant play the game itself. ns isnt singleplayer, and i have tried to play games online with dialup, but the lag is too much on anything more intensive than an rts or some rpgs. Every time i tried to play any fps: ns, ut, cs, dod, there was way too much lag for me play, and im sure it slowed down everyone else as well. so when i say dialers shouldnt play, im not saying it because i hate anyone with dailup, but because it truly is unplayable, and makes it very annoying for anyone who does have hispeed.
so there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and what do you mean making up quotes? the first two lines of my sig are obviously not quotes, and the last is an inside joke from high school.
edit: sp
hehe,
sorry for jumping into the middle of this fight <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I have to say that I have played TFC since HL came out and NS since it came out (2yrs on the 31st!) and until january of this year I had 56k
I was in the top division of the UkTFCL and NS was never a problem. Just because you can't play it does not mean all 56kers can't
Anyways I've been away for a while and I like the progress thats been made.
/me begins to hand out cookies
Also...Once your done don't forget to let us beta test first so we can figure out that if there are fifteen jp's stacked into the corner then the map inverts all textures >_>;;
Also...Once your done don't forget to let us beta test first so we can figure out that if there are fifteen jp's stacked into the corner then the map inverts all textures >_>;; <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Iv'e heard that it releases a model of flayra that runs around and tells you what engine NS2 will be on <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
KK, please noone reply for a while so I get bored and go to bed! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I guess im one the the unlucky ones with my dialup speed, i NEVER got more than 34k, and that happened once, it was usually around 28-32.
wow, i never thought of that.......
no idea....
AOL Dialup isn't 56k, it's a disease.
It sounds like AOL was costing you about 10000bps on your connection, which seems to be the case with a lot of AOL Dialup users I talk to. Whenever I used to see people with a ping of 440 I used to ask if they were downloading 'movies'. It turned out that the vast majority of them had AOL so now whenever I see them with a 300+ ping I just give them my condolences.
P.S. If you're going to reply to this post please don't mention AOL, simply refer to it as 'the disease'. Mentioning it 6 times in this post alone has led to me contracting cancer so I suggest you steer well clear of that abbreviation.
to go almog with this..i woudl suggest recording a demo than using fraps or something to capture what us ee-- better frame rates overall <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->---btw that goes for captuurubng anyhting, if u record demo and play its decent playabuility...try to do it straight with fraps and its a slide show for you :'(
On a side note: "The Disease" is a pitiful excuse for an internet connection, I cannot belive you managed to function a simi normal life without going insane cause of it. "The Disease" is like P33R 3V1L!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->kabo0m Posted: Oct 8 2004, 04:37 PM
the point was that Rek had said people without hi-speed should not play. Keef has no problem with DL'ing huge things (obviously since he has Steam installed - we ALL know that is not a small install). He just didn't like being told he doesn't have the right to play the precious map.
As for the map itself ....
When will the map be done ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FYI yes, on another side note I do not mind DLing big files. I frequently DL overnite getting 100+ MB. lol, but actually I DLed Steam on like a T3 line. I drove 2 hours to go to a LAN party and ReDLed Steam there[Latest version](i had it Installed B4 but had lost it in a reformating) Reno, NV if anyone cares.
srry, had to put my 2 cents in
edit: uploading now, its about 16 megs and not the best quality in the world, it was either 16 megs or 255 megs cos windows media player is just so damn good and im not really in the mood for 255 meg uploads right now <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and no i dont thik it was form a draft <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
edit: w00t, I see the video now!
p.s. if u culd post links that wuld be excellent!
ya I saw that link like last month ... I have been using those mini maps for a bit now but 2 of the mini maps are not accurate... if you use them make sure you back up your originals like I did. I had to put back the one for I think bast and another one becuase the map was not showing up right and was more of a hinderence than not. The rest I am using as the named mini maps and like them very much <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
oh and
<span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>HI Meat_Popsicle!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> </span></span>
Why are you acting like his personal message boy?
What about the preplaced welder issue?
hehe,
sorry for jumping into the middle of this fight <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I have to say that I have played TFC since HL came out and NS since it came out (2yrs on the 31st!) and until january of this year I had 56k
I was in the top division of the UkTFCL and NS was never a problem. Just because you can't play it does not mean all 56kers can't
Anyways I've been away for a while and I like the progress thats been made.
/me begins to hand out cookies <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
some 56k runs faster than other...
depends on what the wiring type is (differnt types of wire conduct better than others)
and depends on yer modem
and on yer cpu
and on yer gpu...
ect
as for the soundbyte, how about Sarges EndGame?
Why are you acting like his personal message boy? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
To bring attention to this map.
on a side note, the disease's browser, which is required to be running in order to connect, is also a ram-hog. it is meant for n00b users who are either too lazy to learn something else, too stupid to learn something else, or just like the not-so-pretty colours and buttons.
for a programming class a few years ago, i built in the aol sounds like "Welcome, You've got mail" into my game, purposley to annoy people.
It works.