Hacker's
red_dude
Join Date: 2004-10-08 Member: 32149Members
<div class="IPBDescription">When will it end?</div> Im getting sick of playing the game and someone hacking me to hell. It is very annoying. And secure server's will most likely come "if" it goes to retail. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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... I used to like you, UNTIL I saw your siggy ... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Not having VAC support is certainly a problem, but Cheating Death is really the only alternative for now.
<b>Tips to get you killed less:</b>
<i>If you are playing as alien, <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> is the way to go.
If you are playing as marine, don't rambo off, but instead, follow your team to the waypoints.</i>
Just some helpful tips from your friend, the Krad.
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P.S. And as for retail... it's pretty much been said it won't be done for now.
Then, you realize that you were wrong most of the time.
Finally, you run into hacking accusations.
The path winds on.
At the same time, isn't that just such a convenient crutch to use whenever you get beaten? Don't even start talking about the 'facts' of NS cheating statistics. For a size comparison, for every one true cheater there will be about 5'000 or more false accusations by players who push their own personal egotistical agendas. Been there, done that.
It's a rare game indeed.
However, there was one guy who seemed to have a wallhack - and the rines didnt haveMT. Any corner, bam. ALready linedup for the shot.. Sill, it seems rare.
However, there was one guy who seemed to have a wallhack - and the rines didnt haveMT. Any corner, bam. ALready linedup for the shot.. Sill, it seems rare. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is exactly it; sound is a vital part of ns, so any kill attributed to a wall hack is most likely a skilled person listening for you.
The only hacks that cannot be detected easily are ESP style; and they really do proove to be of little use.
Anyone who does hack either does themselves no good, or looks so bloody obvious that they're kicked/banned within 2 minutes.
I don't see VAC to be an urgent priority.
I used 3 different types of hacks.
A wallhack, an aimhack and to see what it was like a speedhack.
In the wallhack I saw that the SOF system for the aliens was used by marines revealing the movement of aliens AND my marine team mates all as if they were parasited and I had hive sight. With this it was extremly easy for me to be aware of aliens hiding round corners and know where they were in fact it I practically got away with no one noticing as I used this information "discretionally", for example I would hang with other marines and be dirty and let them go ahead to get attack by said waiting skulk and then kill it for myself.
Cloakers were also intresting as they were sneaking right up in front of me and clearly moving into bite, I stood still and "pretended" to look carefully and let off a few blasts of my LMG or SG on the ground prehaps not specficly aiming towards the cloaker's area.
As aliens though the wall hack was perfect a free SOF upgrade and if anyone asked... you just said. "Yeah I've got SOF" - Ever seen an admin check you after you say that?
The aimhack was a complete joke I gotta say. The whole time I had it run all it did was aim my gun to the right of any skulks and I wouldn't hit them at all and it did not adjust its "lock" at all eg. Skulk is in my vision but goes and a fade attacks me I would still be aiming to the right of the skulk. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And lets not talk about how it worked for any of the aliens... Try being a fade and blinking... :s
Finally the speedhack I dunno how the hell anyone plays with one. I practically went flying around a level and had trouble even getting to focus on any alien skulk and skulk... pssh...
Anyway.. Out of the 3 hacks I checked out the wall hack was really the only working one and fullfilled its point and was the easiest one to hide, eg. Someone accuses you of wall hacking or says "How did you know I was there?" if someone hops into spectator mode all you have to do is run round a corner and get eaten by a couple of skulks waiting to ambush you.
Anyway... Thats my ramblings about hacks and I just want to thank the admin that allowed me to be lame on his server for awhile so I could find out some info about the hacks I tired out.
Anyway thats my low down on the stuff.
So inconclusion really most players out there will be skilled by having to aim their own and play at normal speed, I can't say much about wall hackers since its easy to pass off.
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><i><b>Cheats != Hacks</b></i></span></span>
Thanks to CS many people now think that hacking can also mean cheating but they are completely different!
Capice?
Unfortunately, it's always easier to kick and ban than to learn how to use it.
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><i><b>Cheats != Hacks</b></i></span></span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hm.
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Pronunciation: 'hak
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The man speaks the truth!
Cheating: Downloading something someone already hacked
Hacking: Altering the game code or rendering code/clock speed etc etc etc in your favor
Those people you see on servers are cheaters. Hackers usually write cheats to test their skills in hacking(IE being one step ahead of the anti-cheat programs)
(Note that this is code hacking into the dlls or altering game code on the fly, not to be confused with breaking into networks etc)
All those guys with the yellow things by their name hack.
All those guys with the yellow things by their name hack. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So true.
Then, you realize that you were wrong most of the time.
Finally, you run into hacking accusations. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So true.... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->