Combat: Bunnyhop As Marine

colacola Join Date: 2004-10-01 Member: 32024Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">is it possible with catpacks?</div> I know its possible in classic, but i can't do it in combat. Am i doing somethign wrong? Somebody tell me im wrong because id make catpacks my first upgrade every time.

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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    Marine bunnyhop is possible with catpacks, both modes of play.
    Alien bunnyhop is possible always, both modes of play.

    El fin.
  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    Sky- you stoll my sig <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    .....

    i r teh 1337 51G 7|-|13F


    I prefer to think of it as "remastering".


    First one to post a shot at Lucas wins. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    The length of time for which you can be in the air before causing the slowdown to apply upon landing depends on your base speed.

    Use up some ammo or drop some weapons if you want to bunnyhop with catalysts.
  • colacola Join Date: 2004-10-01 Member: 32024Members, Constellation
    cool thanks for the info fellas
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    This is new. How long has this latest piece of information been covered over?
  • colacola Join Date: 2004-10-01 Member: 32024Members, Constellation
    actually im still having a lot of trouble. like i said earlier, in classic there is no problem at all. its just combat. i get cat first use with no resupply and no ammo. can someone post a demo or something?
  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    Fire off 20 of your pistol bullets. You should then be able to bunnyhop consistently with the knife out, or inconsistently with the pistol out. Don't have the LMG out; it decreases your speed too much. Also, don't bother emptying your LMG. Its ammunition has no effect on your speed until you get more than about 200 bullets.
  • PhOeNiX3PhOeNiX3 Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19169Members
    you have to kill an alien to get a cata pack :\
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-a civilian+Oct 8 2004, 09:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (a civilian @ Oct 8 2004, 09:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fire off 20 of your pistol bullets. You should then be able to bunnyhop consistently with the knife out, or inconsistently with the pistol out. Don't have the LMG out; it decreases your speed too much. Also, don't bother emptying your LMG. Its ammunition has no effect on your speed until you get more than about 200 bullets. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    funny, I always thought your selected weapon didn't affect your speed. As long as you have a weapon, selected or not, shouldn't it be weighed?
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 8 2004, 08:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 8 2004, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> funny, I always thought your selected weapon didn't affect your speed. As long as you have a weapon, selected or not, shouldn't it be weighed? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which explains the retarded situations in CS where everyone runs around with their knives and calling CS a realistic mod...

    Either that is staying in the game because of what they call balance, or they can't find a workaround with the HL engine.
  • colacola Join Date: 2004-10-01 Member: 32024Members, Constellation
    i will definately try that a civilian, thanks again for the info. Im just confused because in classic if the comm drops me a cat pack i can bhop no problem, regardless of my pistol ammo. ill post a demo showing my feeble attempts at half life air accelleration and you guys can point out what im doing wrong.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    the weapon weight isnt much dont stress over it, its only like 3 ground speed lower for each weapon
  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    base marine speed with lmg out 206
    pistol 208
    knife 210
    drop lmg and pistol for 220 speed
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    You still need catalysts to bhop, regardless, correct?
  • Brad_RBrad_R pandas | brad Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8273Members, Constellation
    Demos of marine bhop plz
  • gazOzzgazOzz Work&#39;s a ... Join Date: 2003-12-25 Member: 24747Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swift Idiot+Oct 9 2004, 03:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swift Idiot @ Oct 9 2004, 03:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You still need catalysts to bhop, regardless, correct? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Brad R+Oct 8 2004, 09:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brad R @ Oct 8 2004, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Demos of marine bhop plz <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NS Jumped.

    They do it a few times in there.

    <a href='http://www.gamingmp.com/movie.php?mid=430' target='_blank'>http://www.gamingmp.com/movie.php?mid=430</a>
  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    <!--QuoteBegin-Brad R+Oct 8 2004, 09:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brad R @ Oct 8 2004, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Demos of marine bhop plz<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • ThE_HeRoThE_HeRo Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12723Members
    Now brad is going to make it illegal in CAL.
  • InsomniaInsomnia Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17179Members
    Hey swift idiot. Marines dont need catpacks to bunnyhop. They can do it normally. Whenever the ground beneath you changes in elevation upwards you can bhop. For example, marines can bhop up slopes, or from the ground to railing.
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    I assumed everyone who mattered in this community knew that already. Thanks for the rehash.

    We're talking about flat land bhopping.

    Wouldn't it be funny if Brad DID make it illegal in CAL? I know I'd laugh.
  • Thats_EnoughThats_Enough USA Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27141Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2004
    I did not know that ammo count actually affected your speed.

    Sheesh... what a disgrace. Been playing this long and don't think that?

    Somone slap me around a bit... well.. it is 3am. I need a good slapping to stay awake <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZERGZERG Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13132Members, Constellation
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    This just made cats a bit less useless. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChurchChurch Meatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2 Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11646Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swift Idiot+Oct 9 2004, 01:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swift Idiot @ Oct 9 2004, 01:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I assumed everyone who mattered in this community knew that already. Thanks for the rehash.

    We're talking about flat land bhopping.

    Wouldn't it be funny if Brad DID make it illegal in CAL? I know I'd laugh. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    While a good number of us probably did know that already, I don't like your wording. Are you saying that the new players (i.e, the ones that most likely didn't know) don't matter to the game? come on, new players are the life and blood of any game if you want the game to survive! They matter a lot I say.

    The way you pheased your post made it sound very derogatory to newbies.

    You should've wrote something like: "Anybody who is experienced would know that"
  • HAMMER22HAMMER22 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17476Members
    I've been playing till version 1.0 and didnt know ammo effected your speed, i always assumed it was a rumour... mustnt effect it much i guess <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    Hahaha meatshield, look at the time tag on when I posted that. You expect me to be courteous after a hard friday night of pubbing? The forums are lucky I don't type as loud as my avatar would suggest. Nem0 probably got tired of watching me like a hawk. Now I just meta-troll.

    Yeah guys, ammo has a fractional impact on how fast you go. I know I feel like a slug when I have 250 from accidentally picking up some newb's dropped ammo. Same with the fully loaded shotgun and GL. You slow down pretty noticably with that stuff, assuming you're just a straight-line walker and don't wigglewalk or railing bhop like the rest of us.

    It also used to have a big effect on your JP speed. If you dropped your guns, you'd have a 1.04 JP. You'd go straight up like a hot air balloon.

    Way to pay attention when little pieces of critical information get name-dropped in casual forum conversation. :o That's how it gets done around here. Manuals? Knowledge bases? Pfft, we're hardcore, we learn this game by sorting rumor from fact!

    Listen harder for the little kernals of useful NS psuedo-trivia to pop out. Why do you think I'm so p!ssed that this marine catpack bhop hasn't been talked about before now in a big forum topic. I know someone somewhere discovered this probably months ago and there's a General Forum post ONLY JUST NOW? Come on people, don't do that.
  • InsomniaInsomnia Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17179Members
    You can flat land bhop just once without catpacks. Crouch, jump, let go of crouch while in air, hit the ground, contine with jump.
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