Ns 3.0 Final

Lord_SothLord_Soth Join Date: 2004-06-10 Member: 29230Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
<div class="IPBDescription">nooo</div> oh god i do so hope they mean NS 3.0 FINAL for HALF-LIFE, and not FINAL as in, no more NS. Im sure many out there also pray NS will go over to HL2 when HL2 comes out, if not im sure quite afew will be inspired to make a cheap rip off version of it...... but... yeah.... still.... eek..
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    i think they mean that 3.0 final means that it wont be a beta anymore.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    John's answer sounds more correct, but then again...HL2 is gonna come outsoon and in my idea, most HL1 players will all move to HL2, and all HL1 stuff will pretty much be ZzZzZ
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    not true, there are many people who dont have fast enough computers to play hl2, and the ns dev team have still not decided which engine to put ns2 on, which will be a standalone game, not a mod as far as i know.
  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Yes. It will be 3.0 final release, not final NS release.
  • Lord_SothLord_Soth Join Date: 2004-06-10 Member: 29230Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    0.o standalone game? well.... id pay for it =) NS is the greatest
  • DnomDnom Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28173Members, Constellation
    Yeah but part of NS was waiting to see what comes in the new betas...for me at least. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I'm just thinking, will I still enjoy NS after the final is released and you know there isnt gonna be a new one for a loooong time?? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DantemssDantemss Join Date: 2003-12-13 Member: 24305Members
    edited September 2004
    It seems that HL2 will run fine with most 64mb+ (or maybe even 32mb) cards that can run NS today. There seems to be a "compatibility mode" for non-directx 9 cards that makes them run pretty well, even better than directx 9 cards.

    So the fps shouldn't be much lower than now. But we have to wait to see.

    And NS 3.0 Final means there will be no more betas... but there will probably be NS 3.01 and so on.
  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    I think they mean that NS is leaving the betas now <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Just as CounterStrike did in 2001 with it's version 1.0

    NS to HL2 ? hmm would be nice but I think it'll still go on with steam until they analyzed the HL2 code..
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    It seems unlikely (to me) that they'll nail the remaining problems in one go. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2004
    I actually find that if the NS development team is <i>still</i> not thinking about any of the engines out there yet, or they don't have any ideas for there own, they're in trouble. NS is too good of a game to be restricted by the HL1 engine.

    @Snidely: But if NS v3.0 is an official steam mod, as we have been promised, then NS can just auto update. Very simple. There isn't anything wrong with autoupdating either, it tells people that work is being done on the mod, and that the game hasn't been forgotten about.
  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Unknown Worlds will be making their own engine for NS2, from what I've heard.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Unknown Worlds will be making their own engine for NS2, from what I've heard. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I doubt it. That would be an incredible waste of time on their part, particularly when they have the three most groundbreaking engines available to them.

    By the way, NS 2.01 was an Official Release, although it was only for WON.
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Sep 25 2004, 07:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Sep 25 2004, 07:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> @Snidely: But if NS v3.0 is an official steam mod, as we have been promised, then NS can just auto update. Very simple. There isn't anything wrong with autoupdating either, it tells people that work is being done on the mod, and that the game hasn't been forgotten about. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Final suggests that no more work will go into that version, and that they're moving on. For example, after NS 2.01 Final, there weren't any more patches (that I remember).
  • OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-6john6doe6+Sep 25 2004, 01:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john6doe6 @ Sep 25 2004, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> not true, there are many people who dont have fast enough computers to play hl2, and the ns dev team have still not decided which engine to put ns2 on, which will be a standalone game, not a mod as far as i know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed.
  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    HL2 has startlingly low requirements.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2004
    can you play it on a pentium 2 with 64 mb of ram and no video card? because you can play hl1 with that.
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    One funny thing is that CS went up to beta 8...9? Not sure.

    And ns really seems harder to balance, but hey. Many games never have betas, aren't balanced, have rare updates and are hardly different.

    And years later they suck, anyway, maybe ns will suck in 2009.
  • Gerald_R_FordGerald_R_Ford Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22544Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Sep 25 2004, 08:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Sep 25 2004, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Sep 25 2004, 07:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Sep 25 2004, 07:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> @Snidely:  But if NS v3.0 is an official steam mod, as we have been promised, then NS can just auto update. Very simple. There isn't anything wrong with autoupdating either, it tells people that work is being done on the mod, and that the game hasn't been forgotten about. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Final suggests that no more work will go into that version, and that they're moving on. For example, after NS 2.01 Final, there weren't any more patches (that I remember). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They stopped patching 2.01 because it was "good enough" for competitive play/pub play. After it was released, work went onto 2.1/3.0.
  • Gerald_R_FordGerald_R_Ford Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22544Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-6john6doe6+Sep 25 2004, 12:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john6doe6 @ Sep 25 2004, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> can you play it on a pentium 2 with 64 mb of ram and no video card? because you can play hl1 with that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if you're able to post on this board, you already know the answer to that question. So the real question is why did you even have to ask.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gerald R Ford+Sep 25 2004, 09:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gerald R Ford @ Sep 25 2004, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-6john6doe6+Sep 25 2004, 12:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john6doe6 @ Sep 25 2004, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> can you play it on a pentium 2 with 64 mb of ram and no video card? because you can play hl1 with that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if you're able to post on this board, you already know the answer to that question. So the real question is why did you even have to ask. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it was a question proving to kamikaze that even with hl2's startlingly low requirements the requirements will still be higher than that of hl1. when there are people on these boards that can barely get 30 fps out of this game, there are people who are still going to be playing this game even when this game is out on hl2.
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    There are people that will be awefully alone, sure thing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> However, NS has fairly scary requirements for a HL mod already, so I doubt a switch to HL2 would make it alot worse - odds are it might just run bettter on HL2, if anything all those testers of the CS source port say is true.
  • TheAdjTheAdj He demanded a cool forum title of some type. Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28436Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I don't get how people say everyone will "move on to hl2 and leave hl1". They're both on steam, and you access both through steam. How will the leave when they still have to use the same basic interface? lol.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-6john6doe6+Sep 25 2004, 12:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john6doe6 @ Sep 25 2004, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> can you play it on a pentium 2 with 64 mb of ram and no video card? because you can play hl1 with that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You can't even play NS with that setup, software mode is no longer supported.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Owned?

    But bah, thought really needs to start going into UWE's future projects. Sitting back on an old game engine with extreme restrictions isn't what makes a game grow or expand.

    More like reduce and shrink.
  • Fade_DunawayFade_Dunaway Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16235Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->HL2 has startlingly low requirements. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, have you seen it though? Urgh.

    I saw people playing CS Source at a LAN cafe a couple weeks back...what a disappointment.

    The graphics are barely better than those of HL. The only thing I noticed were shadows. The textures actually looked worse.

    I hope that's not how HL2 will be =/
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    They mean the "Final build for NS 3.0". There will be a 4.0.
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    I can't see what's so special about the Source engine except the physics which btw isn't even the work of Valve (most of it). The Source was amazing 2 years ago, it was fairly decent 1 year ago. Nowadays it's just a below average engine when we're talking how advanced it is technically. However even that I don't doubt that it will bring a great SP experience via the great storyline they had in HL1. Only advantage/disadvantage is that a lot of people will ask their daddies to buy the new BANG BANG (cs:source) when it gets out so it has a potentially larger player base.
  • mattlewis53mattlewis53 Join Date: 2004-09-26 Member: 31935Members
    If you have a Pentium 2 with 64mb of RAM then it's time to upgrade. This is 2004, that computer is from 2000 or even before that. NS needs to expand to a game engine that will do it justice. It's nice that you can play with us on the HL1 engine but the technology needs to keep moving ahead and if you don't upgrade then thats too bad.
  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-XCan+Sep 26 2004, 02:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Sep 26 2004, 02:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can't see what's so special about the Source engine except the physics which btw isn't even the work of Valve (most of it). The Source was amazing 2 years ago, it was fairly decent 1 year ago. Nowadays it's just a below average engine when we're talking how advanced it is technically. However even that I don't doubt that it will bring a great SP experience via the great storyline they had in HL1. Only advantage/disadvantage is that a lot of people will ask their daddies to buy the new BANG BANG (cs:source) when it gets out so it has a potentially larger player base. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What engines that are currently released dwarf it?
  • ElderwyrmElderwyrm Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15296Members
    On Topic: 3.0 Final just means that they are done with the 3.0 beta and this will be the final release of 3.0.

    Off Topic: You can hardly judge Source from what you see on Counter-Strike:Source. Dust is a fairly ugly map IMO, even a great engine like source can't do anything to Dust, it was designed for HL1, and even upgraded it still the same old de_dust.
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