[edit - really more of a discussion topic, tbh...]
<span style='color:orange'>Yep, glad you realized it. If you think it's a valid enough topic to go to the Discussion forums with, go ahead. But posting what you did here would throw this thread on too far of a tangent.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Posting times. No human way i spent 2 minutes writing out a aprox. 6 paragraph post. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> But yes, it would've derailed the topic quite badly. Thought it was a misplaced post...
[I just discovered i can't photoshop anything worth a damn... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ]
To be honest, I thought it was actually pretty well done - it didn't throw in a deus ex machina with his comrade suddenly 'seeing the light'. I didn't think it could of been done any better.
Seriously, I don't see how issues like this can be presented in a way that's not cheesy/hilarious; it just doesn't work because it only caters to one audience: followers of the faith. While I myself am trying to follow my faith, I can't help but look at any media without a secular perspective, and in doing so, I can't help but laugh.
[edit]Just read the comic on homosexuality. I for one am happy that the comics aren't simply "I hate homosexuals and they will all burn in hell" ala Chick. I'm sure few of you will agree with it, but I think this is far from a 'fundamental' comic as some of you are putting it.
Then again, I haven't read the 'Rock Music' comic yet... [/edit]
[2ndedit]Read the rock comic, as well as the evolution one - I am actually *quite* surprised by this series. They're a 'LOT' more natural than I first gave them credit for. The rock comic does seem to make a distinction about the significance of the lyrics of songs, not merely the tunes. I don't have much to add about the evolution one since I'm not very knowledged on it myself and I suppose some of you could easily debunk the points it brings up, but I'm pretty glad that they put up some evidence to try and support the claim, rather than make it a Science vs Religion face-off. [/2ndedit]
BTW, for those that don't think this guy is completely insane, check out his opinions on <a href='http://www.thetruthforyouth.com/NEW%20Comics/ww/pages/WW_1.htm' target='_blank'>rock music</a>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A WOMAN DIES CHILDREN'S CRIES I LIKE IT LOVE IT LIKE THE FLIES<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Man. That song is totally awesome. <3 the flies. I listen to that stuff all the time.
So let me get this straight: pr0n is bad, but violence is good?
Yall have it wrong, should be the other way around.
EG: People (/me points mostly at usa) complain about sex on tv, but violence is rarely brought up. Violence does far more damage than sex. Take soldiers for instance, often when they come back from war, they cant turn "off" the violentness and go crazy. As much as i hate to admit it, playing violent video games has made me more aggresive, and less able to control my temper.
<!--QuoteBegin-Marik_Steele+Sep 22 2004, 04:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Sep 22 2004, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Um...am I the only one here who thinks that regardless of your religion or lack thereof, you shouldn't be viewing such sexually explicit material because it's taking away from time you could be *gasp!* <i>interacting with real living humans</i>? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I prefer my Natural Selection, thank you.
<!--QuoteBegin-TheCheeseStandsAlone+Sep 22 2004, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheCheeseStandsAlone @ Sep 22 2004, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder what its like to be controlled by your imaginary friend instead of vice versa... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You end up with organisations like the Catholic Church and Sea Org of Scientology.
<!--QuoteBegin-RabbiSatan+Sep 22 2004, 09:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RabbiSatan @ Sep 22 2004, 09:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TheCheeseStandsAlone+Sep 22 2004, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheCheeseStandsAlone @ Sep 22 2004, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder what its like to be controlled by your imaginary friend instead of vice versa... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You end up with organisations like the Catholic Church and Sea Org of Scientology. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL
I'm a Catholic...<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> A bad one, but a Catholic no matter.
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<!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 22 2004, 05:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 22 2004, 05:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The internet is a great way for kids to explore uhm... their reproductive facilities.
I went to a christian youth group once (biggest mistake - ever), and this guy goes up and does an enormous lecture on how he sinned so much by using prono. Wow. It's not a sin, it's part of your development. I don't even want to mention the torture of the "prayer session" aka sit in a f-ing circle for 15 minutes bored stiff. /christ. for me
It's a shame how such awesome artistic talent is wasted on this trash. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Its a part of your development? I'm sorry if I don't see how you get the ability to get a girl pregnant- or grow hair- or think more maturely- or get any of those feelings in any way- from pornography.
Thing is, porn isn't safe. I know it myself. I'm a bigtime Christian, and I'll admit openly- I've got a huge problem with porn. It really is a addiction- starts as a little and gets worse and worse.
And yeah. Prayer Circles suck if your not a hardcore Christian, or someone who can bear their soul easily.
..and I personally thought this was a pretty good comic. It got it across pretty well without being downright stupid like in the Chick stuff.
Edit: And along those lines I honestly wonder how you guys that keep bashing Christianity think your any better than Chick when you bash Christians as a whole. I honestly wonder- where do you get the gall to do that? At least some people do it right and know they are there to bash the idiots, not just Christians. In fact, in this regard, thanks DOOManiac for always seeming to make it more over insulting idiocy and not Christians.
I'm not bashing <i>all</i> Christians, just the stupid "in your face, tell you how to live your life" stupid ones. Like the people responsible for those comics.
I love sites like this, everywhere you look you find them contradicting themselves. For example, they agree that Neanderthals exsisted and are "real" (as if their one example of a faked primate means ALL are fakes), but Neanderthals exsisted thousands of years before the Earth was "created" under their beliefs. How exactly does that work? Along with their contradictions come horrible analogies as well! The whole bicycle falling apart thing was just such a terrible example I couldn't help but laugh at it. For one, bicycles are not alive and are not trying to stay alive, they are just passive objects exsisting in the world, like rocks or sand. Living things are always moving under free will, always changing, and most of all - always adapting. Secondly, a bicycle can't reproduce, but a living cell can, which means a new "copy" of said cell/bacteria/organism is produced, while the old one dies. I have yet to see a bicycle that can reproduce.
Fun, fun, fun, and the photoshop thread has been great so far.
Quaunaut, porn is amazing, and wonderfully educational. Porn is not "unrealistic" like it used to be; half of the porn that is available is amateur, which much of is not "perfect babes with DDD breasts" but, in fact, girl next door. Porn isn't as bad as Bible thumpers make it out to be; I live with parents who Jesus Freak it up consistently. I've been grounded several times for porn, and once they made me get rid of all my Metal CD's because I got busted for it. Porn didn't change my thinking at all, really, which is something that Christians don't like to hear. I didn't view any porn until 8th grade, and to be honest, my mind was just as "active" a year before.
I'm kinda surprised really. I didn't think this stuff was nearly as bad as the Chick stuff. Though personally, I've never touched porn in my life, but simply because it seems almost base and primal for me to even do so. Lowering myself to nothing more than an animal level and engaging in something like that just seems below me. Any attraction I have to a woman must be more than physical for me to really acknowledge it and/or pursue it to any degree past just thinking about it. That is just the way I choose to live my life. Pretty stupid I guess.
However, I'm guessing this is going to be one hilarious photoshop thread, because I know we have some excellent people in here. I really look forward to the day that we photoshop all kinds of things, kinda like what SA does. That would be really awesome.
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<!--QuoteBegin-illuminex+Sep 22 2004, 08:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illuminex @ Sep 22 2004, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Quaunaut, porn is amazing, and wonderfully educational. Porn is not "unrealistic" like it used to be; half of the porn that is available is amateur, which much of is not "perfect babes with DDD breasts" but, in fact, girl next door. Porn isn't as bad as Bible thumpers make it out to be; I live with parents who Jesus Freak it up consistently. I've been grounded several times for porn, and once they made me get rid of all my Metal CD's because I got busted for it. Porn didn't change my thinking at all, really, which is something that Christians don't like to hear. I didn't view any porn until 8th grade, and to be honest, my mind was just as "active" a year before. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But that still doesn't say anything against the fact that porn is addicting. Its a known fact. For God sakes, I've got the problem. Its a matter of willpower, and beliefs. And I know its wrong<span style='color:red'>(edit:Sorry, wasn't clear here. It feels VERY wrong to me, thus in my own mind, its wrong)</span>- even after I "climax", the very second afterward, every time, I find myself thinking "All of that for this?" And then just go on until the next time.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Sep 22 2004, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Sep 22 2004, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But that still doesn't say anything against the fact that porn is addicting. Its a known fact. For God sakes, I've got the problem. Its a matter of willpower, and beliefs. And I know its wrong- even after I "climax", the very second afterward, every time, I find myself thinking "All of that for this?" And then just go on until the next time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I wouldn't say it's a fact that porn is addicting, at least not in every case. It's like anything else that's an addiction - I suppose you could say it's 'addictive' biologically in the sense that nicotine is (based on endorphines caused during orgasm? I dunno ^^<!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I would disagree that it's 'addicting' in and of itself.
Nor do you know it's 'wrong' - it feels wrong to you, maybe - but that doesn't make it wrong for everyone else. ^^
1. A. Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction.
1. B. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.
2. A. The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
2. B. An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.
Most importantly
Habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control.
PORN IS VOLUNTARY! Nobody is MAKING you look at porn. There are no voices in my head telling me to watch porn. I do it because I feel like it. People do it because they feel like it. If people stopped masturbating they would not suddenly have violent withdrawal symptoms.
The only reason porn is viewed as bad is because it essentially promotes masturbation and in the eyes of extreme feminist it degrades women. Since Christianity does not like people masturbating, porn cops it.
Thats the crux of the matter. Porn ---> Masturbation ---> Sin.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Athena+Sep 22 2004, 09:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Sep 22 2004, 09:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Sep 22 2004, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Sep 22 2004, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But that still doesn't say anything against the fact that porn is addicting. Its a known fact. For God sakes, I've got the problem. Its a matter of willpower, and beliefs. And I know its wrong- even after I "climax", the very second afterward, every time, I find myself thinking "All of that for this?" And then just go on until the next time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I wouldn't say it's a fact that porn is addicting, at least not in every case. It's like anything else that's an addiction - I suppose you could say it's 'addictive' biologically in the sense that nicotine is (based on endorphines caused during orgasm? I dunno ^^<!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I would disagree that it's 'addicting' in and of itself.
Nor do you know it's 'wrong' - it feels wrong to you, maybe - but that doesn't make it wrong for everyone else. ^^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Remember who you're talking to here Athena. I don't follow the Bible blindly- I believe in it because of the things that have been proven to me. After the entire ordeal with this, I feel dirty, sickening. Others may not, but thats them.
BTW: By no means does this say sex is bad. Sex is good! But according to what I believe, only at the right times <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Cronos+Sep 22 2004, 09:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Sep 22 2004, 09:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. A. Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction.
1. B. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.
2. A. The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
2. B. An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.
Most importantly
Habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control.
PORN IS VOLUNTARY! Nobody is MAKING you look at porn. There are no voices in my head telling me to watch porn. I do it because I feel like it. People do it because they feel like it. If people stopped masturbating they would not suddenly have violent withdrawal symptoms.
The only reason porn is viewed as bad is because it essentially promotes masturbation and in the eyes of extreme feminist it degrades women. Since Christianity does not like people masturbating, porn cops it.
Thats the crux of the matter. Porn ---> Masturbation ---> Sin.
Addiction is not a factor in porn. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You can be addicted to anything. Not to mention, that guess what: Sex, porn, and sexually related fetishes have been registered as a "Viable Addiction" in psychology books for over a decade. You get addicted to the feeling- just like with drugs. Yes, you do it because you feel like it. But when you are feeling like doing it a lot, like, way more than you should, and thinking about it almost all the time- that also shows the forms of an addiction. Don't believe me? Talk to any shrink. They'll say the same. Also, believe it or not, Christianity has nothing against masturbating. Its what you do in your head that it has wrong with it. Or see with your eyes, for that matter.
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<!--QuoteBegin-TheCheeseStandsAlone+Sep 22 2004, 04:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheCheeseStandsAlone @ Sep 22 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not really, In fact unless you are really serious with someone you shouldn't even have sex with them. Porn can be alot better than casual sex because well, porno will not get pregnant, porno will not give you and STD, and porno does not want a phone call every 2 hours. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i don't know what kind of sex you like to have with people, but the kind i like is typically better than sitting at home, watching porno. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I sense a lock...and then a discussion topic being opened that will become many, many pages, at which point it will destroy the forums forever! Time itself will stand still!
Comments
[edit - really more of a discussion topic, tbh...]
<span style='color:orange'>Yep, glad you realized it. If you think it's a valid enough topic to go to the Discussion forums with, go ahead. But posting what you did here would throw this thread on too far of a tangent.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Posting times. No human way i spent 2 minutes writing out a aprox. 6 paragraph post. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> But yes, it would've derailed the topic quite badly. Thought it was a misplaced post...
[I just discovered i can't photoshop anything worth a damn... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ]
To be honest, I thought it was actually pretty well done - it didn't throw in a deus ex machina with his comrade suddenly 'seeing the light'. I didn't think it could of been done any better.
Seriously, I don't see how issues like this can be presented in a way that's not cheesy/hilarious; it just doesn't work because it only caters to one audience: followers of the faith. While I myself am trying to follow my faith, I can't help but look at any media without a secular perspective, and in doing so, I can't help but laugh.
[edit]Just read the comic on homosexuality. I for one am happy that the comics aren't simply "I hate homosexuals and they will all burn in hell" ala Chick. I'm sure few of you will agree with it, but I think this is far from a 'fundamental' comic as some of you are putting it.
Then again, I haven't read the 'Rock Music' comic yet... [/edit]
[2ndedit]Read the rock comic, as well as the evolution one - I am actually *quite* surprised by this series. They're a 'LOT' more natural than I first gave them credit for. The rock comic does seem to make a distinction about the significance of the lyrics of songs, not merely the tunes. I don't have much to add about the evolution one since I'm not very knowledged on it myself and I suppose some of you could easily debunk the points it brings up, but I'm pretty glad that they put up some evidence to try and support the claim, rather than make it a Science vs Religion face-off. [/2ndedit]
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<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=81457' target='_blank'>here</a>
BTW, for those that don't think this guy is completely insane, check out his opinions on <a href='http://www.thetruthforyouth.com/NEW%20Comics/ww/pages/WW_1.htm' target='_blank'>rock music</a>.
p.s. KISS RULES!
CHILDREN'S CRIES
I LIKE IT LOVE IT
LIKE THE FLIES<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Man. That song is totally awesome. <3 the flies. I listen to that stuff all the time.
Yall have it wrong, should be the other way around.
EG: People (/me points mostly at usa) complain about sex on tv, but violence is rarely brought up. Violence does far more damage than sex. Take soldiers for instance, often when they come back from war, they cant turn "off" the violentness and go crazy. As much as i hate to admit it, playing violent video games has made me more aggresive, and less able to control my temper.
I prefer my Natural Selection, thank you.
You end up with organisations like the Catholic Church and Sea Org of Scientology.
You end up with organisations like the Catholic Church and Sea Org of Scientology. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL
Good one!
AND I LOOK AT PORN!
I went to a christian youth group once (biggest mistake - ever), and this guy goes up and does an enormous lecture on how he sinned so much by using prono. Wow. It's not a sin, it's part of your development. I don't even want to mention the torture of the "prayer session" aka sit in a f-ing circle for 15 minutes bored stiff. /christ. for me
It's a shame how such awesome artistic talent is wasted on this trash. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its a part of your development? I'm sorry if I don't see how you get the ability to get a girl pregnant- or grow hair- or think more maturely- or get any of those feelings in any way- from pornography.
Thing is, porn isn't safe. I know it myself. I'm a bigtime Christian, and I'll admit openly- I've got a huge problem with porn. It really is a addiction- starts as a little and gets worse and worse.
And yeah. Prayer Circles suck if your not a hardcore Christian, or someone who can bear their soul easily.
..and I personally thought this was a pretty good comic. It got it across pretty well without being downright stupid like in the Chick stuff.
Edit: And along those lines I honestly wonder how you guys that keep bashing Christianity think your any better than Chick when you bash Christians as a whole. I honestly wonder- where do you get the gall to do that? At least some people do it right and know they are there to bash the idiots, not just Christians. In fact, in this regard, thanks DOOManiac for always seeming to make it more over insulting idiocy and not Christians.
(I'm masturbating as I type this)
(I'm masturbating as I type this) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats going in the sig.
Fun, fun, fun, and the photoshop thread has been great so far.
However, I'm guessing this is going to be one hilarious photoshop thread, because I know we have some excellent people in here. I really look forward to the day that we photoshop all kinds of things, kinda like what SA does. That would be really awesome.
But that still doesn't say anything against the fact that porn is addicting. Its a known fact. For God sakes, I've got the problem. Its a matter of willpower, and beliefs. And I know its wrong<span style='color:red'>(edit:Sorry, wasn't clear here. It feels VERY wrong to me, thus in my own mind, its wrong)</span>- even after I "climax", the very second afterward, every time, I find myself thinking "All of that for this?" And then just go on until the next time.
I wouldn't say it's a fact that porn is addicting, at least not in every case. It's like anything else that's an addiction - I suppose you could say it's 'addictive' biologically in the sense that nicotine is (based on endorphines caused during orgasm? I dunno ^^<!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I would disagree that it's 'addicting' in and of itself.
Nor do you know it's 'wrong' - it feels wrong to you, maybe - but that doesn't make it wrong for everyone else. ^^
1. B. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.
2. A. The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
2. B. An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.
Most importantly
Habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control.
PORN IS VOLUNTARY! Nobody is MAKING you look at porn. There are no voices in my head telling me to watch porn. I do it because I feel like it. People do it because they feel like it. If people stopped masturbating they would not suddenly have violent withdrawal symptoms.
The only reason porn is viewed as bad is because it essentially promotes masturbation and in the eyes of extreme feminist it degrades women. Since Christianity does not like people masturbating, porn cops it.
Thats the crux of the matter. Porn ---> Masturbation ---> Sin.
Addiction is not a factor in porn.
I wouldn't say it's a fact that porn is addicting, at least not in every case. It's like anything else that's an addiction - I suppose you could say it's 'addictive' biologically in the sense that nicotine is (based on endorphines caused during orgasm? I dunno ^^<!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I would disagree that it's 'addicting' in and of itself.
Nor do you know it's 'wrong' - it feels wrong to you, maybe - but that doesn't make it wrong for everyone else. ^^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Remember who you're talking to here Athena. I don't follow the Bible blindly- I believe in it because of the things that have been proven to me. After the entire ordeal with this, I feel dirty, sickening. Others may not, but thats them.
BTW: By no means does this say sex is bad. Sex is good! But according to what I believe, only at the right times <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
1. B. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.
2. A. The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
2. B. An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.
Most importantly
Habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control.
PORN IS VOLUNTARY! Nobody is MAKING you look at porn. There are no voices in my head telling me to watch porn. I do it because I feel like it. People do it because they feel like it. If people stopped masturbating they would not suddenly have violent withdrawal symptoms.
The only reason porn is viewed as bad is because it essentially promotes masturbation and in the eyes of extreme feminist it degrades women. Since Christianity does not like people masturbating, porn cops it.
Thats the crux of the matter. Porn ---> Masturbation ---> Sin.
Addiction is not a factor in porn. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can be addicted to anything. Not to mention, that guess what: Sex, porn, and sexually related fetishes have been registered as a "Viable Addiction" in psychology books for over a decade. You get addicted to the feeling- just like with drugs. Yes, you do it because you feel like it. But when you are feeling like doing it a lot, like, way more than you should, and thinking about it almost all the time- that also shows the forms of an addiction. Don't believe me? Talk to any shrink. They'll say the same. Also, believe it or not, Christianity has nothing against masturbating. Its what you do in your head that it has wrong with it. Or see with your eyes, for that matter.
Just like drugs/alcohol/cigs.
Just like drugs/alcohol/cigs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was that sarcasm? Because some people actually aren't addicted to those...
etc.
i don't know what kind of sex you like to have with people, but the kind i like is typically better than sitting at home, watching porno. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->