<!--QuoteBegin-JezPuh+Sep 12 2004, 08:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Sep 12 2004, 08:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The best mod all time would be Learn How To Spell and Don't Be Stupid 2.1 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> A troll is a precious creature, it adds zip and pizzazz to forum life, however we see in their young stages they are crude and uncreative.
DoD - (Pre retail). NS - (Before they tweaked it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much). Hostile Intent - (Unlike many mods, it's improving, and idiots are scared away (Seriousely, they are)). CS - (Minus the community).
Worst.
ESF - (A mod where a bunch of 12 year old douchebags own the **** out of you with melee, and start yelling profanitys at you isn't fun. It's 2 times worse than CS). Firearms - It's OK, but it gets INCREDIBLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! repetitive).
I have a pretty short "Worst" list since I stay away from crap.
Before you misunderstand what I said about hostile intent keeping idiots away, I didn't say that if you hate it, your an idiot. No It's if your Mis-playing it. There was a server (The [SWAT] server), who would kick and even ban for "Camping" an objective. The devs have taken a good action to help preven this and they are against it.
Natural Selection - Well, duh, this is a NS community after all, if it was a CS one i would be in a CS forum =/
Dragonmod Z - I know its sad, and sucky, and sad, and sucky... but me <3's it. Only problem is they cant get it to go with steam!! >.< **** <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> @steam
DoD - It beats MoH in the WW2 Aspect IMO, but is thrashed by CoD
Ricochet!! XD Just for the pure boredomness of it.
<!--QuoteBegin-antifreeze+Sep 13 2004, 08:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (antifreeze @ Sep 13 2004, 08:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Zombie Panic seems to be getting alot of praise. Any screenshots available from the beta? And why do people think it's good? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 31 <i>HUMAN CONTROLLED</i> (no stupid AI controlled zombies here!) zombies against one heavilly armed <i>and armored</i> survivor, in a "best situation possible" end-game scenerio... Wandering through areas ranging from abandoned and bloodied apartment complexes, to high-tech labs.
And YES, that <i>IS</i> the best situation possible. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Nearly all the times the zombies win, but only just nearly. With good teamwork the survivors can pull off a win.
==== Anyways, to the rankings!
Best: - Zombie Panic. High developer presence, in development (omg my idea might actually be considered!) and a - imo - very friendly dev team leader. - Natural Selection. Common, everyone has to tell this is the mod that's had <i>the</i> most work done to it! And by work, i mean work-around the half-life engine. And damn, is that work ever masterfully done. - Nearly anything can go here. Multiple titles struggle to be placed here, so i'm just giving up and putting a blanket statment down saying "I. Dont. Know." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> - Counter Strike. Hey, without this mod, where would anything else be today? For paving the way for mods, it deserves at least a <i>little</i> bit of credit, right?
Worst: #1 Fire Arms. All versions. There was ALWAYS a highly unballanced and highly over-used weapon every time a new version came out. Armor just didn't seem to do jack-all, and several things just simply compounded into a totally crappy mod. #2 Nearly anything can go here. Multiple titles struggle to be placed here, so i'm just saying this: More then one title deserves the chair, the injection, and the matter disassembly machine. All at once. #3 NS. Some things obvious, some not-so obvious. Ballance issues, general lack of developer presence ("Where the hell are you?! The lights are on! I know you're in there! Don't try and hide from me! Unlock this door!" syndrome) and still feels... Ugly. Some things could've been done to smooth it out; even though the scenery has a gritty feel to it, it doesn't mean the HUD and interface needs it, too. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> #4 Zombie Panic. For what it's worth, it's in development. Imballances, bugs, and general nastyness of the non-good kind. Still a long-haul left to go before release.
Maveric... Your best are parralel (sp?) to your worst. You got a split personality disorder or something?
Although, i do agree with you on the NS bit. There are still quite a few bits need correcting, such as in co_ (I'm a co_ junkie) the marines in B5 are now stupidly strong, mainly because of the new evolution scheme. Which sucks. Uh huh. You heard me. There's also some mapping flaws, although I cant be bothered to dreg into them. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> @my lazyness
<u>Best (no order) :</u><ul><li><b>Day of Defeat</b> ( The mod I play most of the time. )</li><li><b>SvenCoop</b></li><li><b>Natural Selection</b></li><li><b>Half-Life Deathmatch</b></li></ul> <u>Worst (no order) :</u><ul><li><b>The Ship</b></li><li><b>Ricochet</b></li><li><b>Counter-Strike (all of them!)</b></li><li><b>Dino-Itstinks</b>... I mean... <b>Instincts</b> ( not released yet, but looks BLEH! )</li><li><b>Monkey-Strike</b></li></ul>
Best : NS DoD Firearms ESF (Not the community though....the stuff they do with the engine almost rivals that of NS though. Besides, the bots are like 20x better than your average pubber....)
Worst : CS ESF (The community and repetitive botchat....it's as bad if not worse than CS if you ask me) Vampire Slayer Ricochet
1)UT2004Troopers(a Unreal 2004 Star Wars mod, i beta-test it by the way ;o) 2)U4E(Unreal For Ever, again a mod for UT2004, very good) 3)Natural Selection(i like it, but not my favorites since 1.04 Alien Nerfing began) 4)Counter Strike(Play it only when bored, but its not bad either)
The Worst 1)Stargate TC, The Staff Flames The Public that Criticise them, Their textures are either copy and paste, or their just horrible. B)Stargate BFM(a BF1942 mod, does very very poor job on bringing Stargate to BF1942..) C)Jungle Warfare D)Public Enemy.
Counter Strike Counter Strike CZ Counter Strike Source (steam does the exact opposite. I have a right to do so like this <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->) Vampire Slayer (ONE skin with a motorcycle can't save a game)
1. Natural Selection 2. Hostile Intent (the only game I've ever played with realistic guns!) 3. The Specialists 4. Public Enemy (has issues but is very, very fun in the latest release)
Honourable mention: S+I, DOD
Bottom 4:
1. Counter-Strike (horrible, horrible game with extremely flawed weapon physics, ugly models, etc.) 2. Vampire Slayer 3. Action Half-Life (I used to love it, but now it feels clunky and too tactical for an action game compared to TS) 4. I haven't really played anything else I really disliked <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Invazn+Oct 10 2004, 11:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invazn @ Oct 10 2004, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is its possible to make Counter-Life work with steam. I lost my HL disk <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You, my friend, are fired. Goodbye.
That said, my new favorite mod is Tankefugls blink mod.
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A troll is a precious creature, it adds zip and pizzazz to forum life, however we see in their young stages they are crude and uncreative.
DoD - (Pre retail).
NS - (Before they tweaked it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much).
Hostile Intent - (Unlike many mods, it's improving, and idiots are scared away (Seriousely, they are)).
CS - (Minus the community).
Worst.
ESF - (A mod where a bunch of 12 year old douchebags own the **** out of you with melee, and start yelling profanitys at you isn't fun. It's 2 times worse than CS).
Firearms - It's OK, but it gets INCREDIBLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! repetitive).
I have a pretty short "Worst" list since I stay away from crap.
Before you misunderstand what I said about hostile intent keeping idiots away, I didn't say that if you hate it, your an idiot. No It's if your Mis-playing it. There was a server (The [SWAT] server), who would kick and even ban for "Camping" an objective. The devs have taken a good action to help preven this and they are against it.
Natural Selection - Well, duh, this is a NS community after all, if it was a CS one i would be in a CS forum =/
Dragonmod Z - I know its sad, and sucky, and sad, and sucky... but me <3's it. Only problem is they cant get it to go with steam!! >.< **** <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> @steam
DoD - It beats MoH in the WW2 Aspect IMO, but is thrashed by CoD
Ricochet!! XD Just for the pure boredomness of it.
Worstestest:
Counter strike 1.6
Counter strike 1.5
Counter strike 1.4
Counter strike 1.3
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> @CS n00b0r 3xtr3m3 c0mmun1tee
31 <i>HUMAN CONTROLLED</i> (no stupid AI controlled zombies here!) zombies against one heavilly armed <i>and armored</i> survivor, in a "best situation possible" end-game scenerio... Wandering through areas ranging from abandoned and bloodied apartment complexes, to high-tech labs.
And YES, that <i>IS</i> the best situation possible. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Nearly all the times the zombies win, but only just nearly. With good teamwork the survivors can pull off a win.
====
Anyways, to the rankings!
Best:
- Zombie Panic. High developer presence, in development (omg my idea might actually be considered!) and a - imo - very friendly dev team leader.
- Natural Selection. Common, everyone has to tell this is the mod that's had <i>the</i> most work done to it! And by work, i mean work-around the half-life engine. And damn, is that work ever masterfully done.
- Nearly anything can go here. Multiple titles struggle to be placed here, so i'm just giving up and putting a blanket statment down saying "I. Dont. Know." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
- Counter Strike. Hey, without this mod, where would anything else be today? For paving the way for mods, it deserves at least a <i>little</i> bit of credit, right?
Worst:
#1 Fire Arms. All versions. There was ALWAYS a highly unballanced and highly over-used weapon every time a new version came out. Armor just didn't seem to do jack-all, and several things just simply compounded into a totally crappy mod.
#2 Nearly anything can go here. Multiple titles struggle to be placed here, so i'm just saying this: More then one title deserves the chair, the injection, and the matter disassembly machine. All at once.
#3 NS. Some things obvious, some not-so obvious. Ballance issues, general lack of developer presence ("Where the hell are you?! The lights are on! I know you're in there! Don't try and hide from me! Unlock this door!" syndrome) and still feels... Ugly. Some things could've been done to smooth it out; even though the scenery has a gritty feel to it, it doesn't mean the HUD and interface needs it, too. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
#4 Zombie Panic. For what it's worth, it's in development. Imballances, bugs, and general nastyness of the non-good kind. Still a long-haul left to go before release.
2. Natural-selection
3. Day of Defeat
4. Firearms
1. Earth's special forces
2. Tour of duty
3. Digital paintball
4. Whatever happened to hanger 16?
Although, i do agree with you on the NS bit. There are still quite a few bits need correcting, such as in co_ (I'm a co_ junkie) the marines in B5 are now stupidly strong, mainly because of the new evolution scheme. Which sucks. Uh huh. You heard me. There's also some mapping flaws, although I cant be bothered to dreg into them. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> @my lazyness
<u>Worst (no order) :</u><ul><li><b>The Ship</b></li><li><b>Ricochet</b></li><li><b>Counter-Strike (all of them!)</b></li><li><b>Dino-Itstinks</b>... I mean... <b>Instincts</b> ( not released yet, but looks BLEH! )</li><li><b>Monkey-Strike</b></li></ul>
1. Defrag
2. NS
3. Corkscrew
4. CS
Worst:
1. All 'Realistic' or 'World War' mods for any engine
2. Richochet
3. Svencoop
4. ESF ( CS community + DBZ doesn't mix )
NS
DoD
Firearms
ESF (Not the community though....the stuff they do with the engine almost rivals that of NS though. Besides, the bots are like 20x better than your average pubber....)
Worst :
CS
ESF (The community and repetitive botchat....it's as bad if not worse than CS if you ask me)
Vampire Slayer
Ricochet
1)UT2004Troopers(a Unreal 2004 Star Wars mod, i beta-test it by the way ;o)
2)U4E(Unreal For Ever, again a mod for UT2004, very good)
3)Natural Selection(i like it, but not my favorites since 1.04 Alien Nerfing began)
4)Counter Strike(Play it only when bored, but its not bad either)
The Worst
1)Stargate TC, The Staff Flames The Public that Criticise them, Their textures are either copy and paste, or their just horrible.
B)Stargate BFM(a BF1942 mod, does very very poor job on bringing Stargate to BF1942..)
C)Jungle Warfare
D)Public Enemy.
Natural Selection (HL)
Desert Combat (BF)
KillerQuake (Q1)
Team Fortress (Q1)
worst:
My very own Quake1 mod. (it "upgraded" your weapons o_X)
Natural-Selection
The Battlegrounds
Science&industry
Sven-Coop
They Hunger
Worst:
Dod (it was good before 1.0)
StargateTC
PVK
Ricochet
1) Rocket crowbar
2) Ricochet
3) Natural Selection (Classic)
4) Hostile intention
Worst
1) Natural Selection (combat)
2) Counter-strike
3) Tribes Starsiege
4) Unreal flight Simulater
Best:
Natural Selection
arcHL
Bumper Cars
Sven Co-op
Worst:
Counter Strike
Counter Strike CZ
Counter Strike Source (steam does the exact opposite. I have a right to do so like this <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Vampire Slayer (ONE skin with a motorcycle can't save a game)
Natural Selection
Zombie Panic
Tankefugl's Blink Mod (esp. in OpenGL)
Worst
i dont categorize the games i dont play, so no list here
1.) Day of Defeat
2.) Counter-Strike
3.) The Specialists
4.) Team Fortress Classic
Worst:
1.) Natural Selection: Combat
2.) Earth Special Forces
3.) Frontline Force
4.) Vampire Slayer
1. Natural Selection
2. Hostile Intent (the only game I've ever played with realistic guns!)
3. The Specialists
4. Public Enemy (has issues but is very, very fun in the latest release)
Honourable mention: S+I, DOD
Bottom 4:
1. Counter-Strike (horrible, horrible game with extremely flawed weapon physics, ugly models, etc.)
2. Vampire Slayer
3. Action Half-Life (I used to love it, but now it feels clunky and too tactical for an action game compared to TS)
4. I haven't really played anything else I really disliked <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You, my friend, are fired. Goodbye.
That said, my new favorite mod is Tankefugls blink mod.
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sucks
My offical list
BEST:
NS (clan play)
NS:C (pub play)
CS (clan)
BG
WORST:
NS (pub play)
NS:C (clan play)
CS (pub)
Ricochet
DOD
CZ
NS1.0
Worst
NS combat
NS 3.0
CS 1.0
1) NS
2) Bumper Cars !
3) PVK
4 ) ARC : HL with over 8 people
WORST
CS in pubs.