All the muzzle flashes are composed of three files: muzzleflashX.spr; X being 1, 2 and 3. Just to let you know, removing or shrinking them is considered cheating.
<!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Sep 16 2004, 02:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Sep 16 2004, 02:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All the muzzle flashes are composed of three files: muzzleflashX.spr; X being 1, 2 and 3. Just to let you know, removing or shrinking them is considered cheating. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Just to let you know, change any sounds, models, sprites, textures or whatever you feel like in your install of NS if you feel like it. Its not considered cheating except by small minded people who need something to blame everytime they are beaten as they can't accept other people actually being better than them.
Here are some replacement sprites I found somewhere a while ago.
<a href='http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dj_sanders/files/muzzleflash.zip' target='_blank'>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dj_sanders/fi...muzzleflash.zip</a> (extract to your \half-life\ns\sprites\ directory)
Really? <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75604' target='_blank'>Nemesis Zero is a small minded person who can't tolerate being beaten?:://Nemesis Zero is a small minded pers... being beaten?:</a>
yeah getting rid of muzzle flashes isnt allowed on alot of servers anyway because they force file consitancy. CAL does not allow it either, so don't change them or get rid of them, instead get used to them. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Infinito+Sep 15 2004, 10:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinito @ Sep 15 2004, 10:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah getting rid of muzzle flashes isnt allowed on alot of servers anyway because they force file consitancy. CAL does not allow it either, so don't change them or get rid of them, instead get used to them. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What's file consitancy?
<!--QuoteBegin-Jmmsbnd007+Sep 15 2004, 09:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jmmsbnd007 @ Sep 15 2004, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's file consitancy? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's when a server won't let you use custom models, sounds, certain sprites and the like. It can be good as some people make versions that give them an unfair advantage. It has the drawback of preventing prefectly legit custom models, but if you're concerned that someone is cheating in such a manner it's a useful tool.
<!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Sep 15 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Sep 15 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jmmsbnd007+Sep 15 2004, 09:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jmmsbnd007 @ Sep 15 2004, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's file consitancy? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's when a server won't let you use custom models, sounds, certain sprites and the like. It can be good as some people make versions that give them an unfair advantage. It has the drawback of preventing prefectly legit custom models, but if you're concerned that someone is cheating in such a manner it's a useful tool. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lmao...
<!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Sep 15 2004, 08:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Sep 15 2004, 08:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Really? <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75604' target='_blank'>Nemesis Zero is a small minded person who can't tolerate being beaten?:://Nemesis Zero is a small minded pers... being beaten?:://Nemesis Zero is a small minded pers... being beaten?:</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 15 2004, 08:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 15 2004, 08:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just to let you know, change any sounds, models, sprites, textures or whatever you feel like in your install of NS if you feel like it. Its not considered cheating except by small minded people who need something to blame everytime they are beaten as they can't accept other people actually being better than them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sounds like you approve invisible bite models and sprites as a means to become "better". I'm glad there are enough small minded people running their servers with mp_consistency or even cheating death, to keep such all-too open minded players out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 15 2004, 08:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 15 2004, 08:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and this is how they look
<image><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Uhm... no crosshair and the weapon model occludes the upgrade icons... something's obviously wrong with that pic.
im pretty sure thats a plugin of sorts, ive seen it before but i cant remember where. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There is a crosshair if you look closely, and also note the "Viewing through the eyes of Oetel" text. He's spectating and I assume the model overlap is a spectating problem.
<!--QuoteBegin-Novis+Sep 16 2004, 08:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Novis @ Sep 16 2004, 08:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sounds like you approve invisible bite models and sprites as a means to become "better". I'm glad there are enough small minded people running their servers with mp_consistency or even cheating death, to keep such all-too open minded players out.
Uhm... no crosshair and the weapon model occludes the upgrade icons... something's obviously wrong with that pic. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> sounds like you're wrong. And whats "wrong" with that pic is its taken in spectator mode (probably in 2.01 on WON aswell). Perhaps if you thought about it or researched it instead of instantaneously jumping to conclusions you might not be so obnoxious. And Dragon_Mech <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Removing the muzzleflash is considered an exploit. Live with it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Way to take his words out of context.
I love the double standards the majority of people adhere to on these forums. How many of you would not object to changing the minimaps for the custom ones with names or changing the sprites used by the phase gate for higher FPS? And how many of those same people would object to changing the muzzleflash or devour sprites for purely aesthetic reasons? Way to be hypocrites. The muzzleflash sprites I linked are actually <b>bigger</b> than the default ones but more transparent. How many of the posters on this thread thought about that? I expect these are the same people who whine about _special not being blocked when mp_blockscripts is off but want to use every other script they can find or write.
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 16 2004, 09:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 16 2004, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How many of you would not object to changing the minimaps for the custom ones with names or changing the sprites used by the phase gate for higher FPS? And how many of those same people would object to changing the muzzleflash or devour sprites for purely aesthetic reasons? Way to be hypocrites. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's hardly hypocritical. I have nothing against cosmetic changes, or changes that boost your framerate. Why? Because in the first case gameplay is not affected, and in the second you can boost your FPS in other ways - such as switching to a lower resolution.
However, if a change gives a significant advantage to the user - such as not having a muzzleflash obscure your vision - then I have a problem with it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Sep 16 2004, 05:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Sep 16 2004, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's hardly hypocritical. I have nothing against cosmetic changes, or changes that boost your framerate. Why? Because in the first case gameplay is not affected, and in the second you can boost your FPS in other ways - such as switching to a lower resolution.
However, if a change gives a significant advantage to the user - such as not having a muzzleflash obscure your vision - then I have a problem with it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You have nothing against changing game resources to boost a players framerate (which would directly give them an advantage as opposed to running with the default install) buw you have a problem with changing something if it "gives the user a significant advantage".
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 16 2004, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 16 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You have nothing against changing game resources to boost a players framerate (which would directly give them an advantage as opposed to running with the default install) buw you have a problem with changing something if it "gives the user a significant advantage".
Got Hypocrisy? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have nothing against changing to a low-poly model for better FPS <i>because you can acieve the same effect by altering allowed options such as switching to a lower resolution</i>. If you wish to get better FPS by switching to a lower poly model instead of a lower framrate, that's your call. Doing something like removing the muzzleflash or making it transparent - something you cannot do with regular options - to give yourself an edge no-one else has is a problem.
<!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Sep 16 2004, 12:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Sep 16 2004, 12:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hmm... so... if i double the size of my muzzle flashes, will it work with mp_consistincy 1? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't think so. I know muzzleflash is checked by consistency, so I don't think you could double it's size.
The possible advantage of playing with or without a muzzleflash or using a custom muzzleflash is so marginal that its not worth your time to discuss it. Nor is it worth disallowing all the cool custom sprites out there. I agree that its important to to have file consistence in CAL, but there's no point in getting worked up over keeping the playing field even in pubs.
well, nuts, on the good side of things, marine Xhairs arent checked with consistancy, seeing, i royaly messed them up before i found about the crosshairs 0 command (no the Xhairs are pretty, i like them dont be offended! i dont like aiming!)
The default muzzle flash is far too big, hence why I (and many others) have replaced it. I have not seen such a large and opaque flash in any other multiplayer game.
<span style='color:red'><b>FOR THE RECORD</b></span> changes for asthetic purposes (high poly models, different/smaller sprites, low-poly world/view models) are fine and dandy to use. as they are considered Personal Customization.
When those changes/customizations change the game for your advantage (and nothing else) that is when those customizations become exploits.
and for further knowlage, <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=19' target='_blank'>we have a customization forum for a reason</a>
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dont get rid of them, adds more challange
Just to let you know, change any sounds, models, sprites, textures or whatever you feel like in your install of NS if you feel like it. Its not considered cheating except by small minded people who need something to blame everytime they are beaten as they can't accept other people actually being better than them.
Here are some replacement sprites I found somewhere a while ago.
<a href='http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dj_sanders/files/muzzleflash.zip' target='_blank'>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dj_sanders/fi...muzzleflash.zip</a> (extract to your \half-life\ns\sprites\ directory)
and this is how they look
<img src='http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dj_sanders/files/muzzleflash.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
cause aim with custom muzzleflash like show by malibu is really more easy .
What's file consitancy?
It's when a server won't let you use custom models, sounds, certain sprites and the like. It can be good as some people make versions that give them an unfair advantage. It has the drawback of preventing prefectly legit custom models, but if you're concerned that someone is cheating in such a manner it's a useful tool.
It's when a server won't let you use custom models, sounds, certain sprites and the like. It can be good as some people make versions that give them an unfair advantage. It has the drawback of preventing prefectly legit custom models, but if you're concerned that someone is cheating in such a manner it's a useful tool. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lmao...
Yes
Just to let you know, change any sounds, models, sprites, textures or whatever you feel like in your install of NS if you feel like it. Its not considered cheating except by small minded people who need something to blame everytime they are beaten as they can't accept other people actually being better than them.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sounds like you approve invisible bite models and sprites as a means to become "better".
I'm glad there are enough small minded people running their servers with mp_consistency or even cheating death, to keep such all-too open minded players out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Sep 15 2004, 08:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Sep 15 2004, 08:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
and this is how they look
<image><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Uhm... no crosshair and the weapon model occludes the upgrade icons... something's obviously wrong with that pic.
I'm glad there are enough small minded people running their servers with mp_consistency or even cheating death, to keep such all-too open minded players out.
Uhm... no crosshair and the weapon model occludes the upgrade icons... something's obviously wrong with that pic. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
sounds like you're wrong.
And whats "wrong" with that pic is its taken in spectator mode (probably in 2.01 on WON aswell). Perhaps if you thought about it or researched it instead of instantaneously jumping to conclusions you might not be so obnoxious.
And Dragon_Mech
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Removing the muzzleflash is considered an exploit. Live with it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Way to take his words out of context.
I love the double standards the majority of people adhere to on these forums.
How many of you would not object to changing the minimaps for the custom ones with names or changing the sprites used by the phase gate for higher FPS? And how many of those same people would object to changing the muzzleflash or devour sprites for purely aesthetic reasons? Way to be hypocrites. The muzzleflash sprites I linked are actually <b>bigger</b> than the default ones but more transparent. How many of the posters on this thread thought about that?
I expect these are the same people who whine about _special not being blocked when mp_blockscripts is off but want to use every other script they can find or write.
It's hardly hypocritical. I have nothing against cosmetic changes, or changes that boost your framerate. Why? Because in the first case gameplay is not affected, and in the second you can boost your FPS in other ways - such as switching to a lower resolution.
However, if a change gives a significant advantage to the user - such as not having a muzzleflash obscure your vision - then I have a problem with it.
However, if a change gives a significant advantage to the user - such as not having a muzzleflash obscure your vision - then I have a problem with it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You have nothing against changing game resources to boost a players framerate (which would directly give them an advantage as opposed to running with the default install) buw you have a problem with changing something if it "gives the user a significant advantage".
Got Hypocrisy?
Got Hypocrisy? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have nothing against changing to a low-poly model for better FPS <i>because you can acieve the same effect by altering allowed options such as switching to a lower resolution</i>. If you wish to get better FPS by switching to a lower poly model instead of a lower framrate, that's your call. Doing something like removing the muzzleflash or making it transparent - something you cannot do with regular options - to give yourself an edge no-one else has is a problem.
Where is the hypocrisy in that?
so... if i double the size of my muzzle flashes, will it work with mp_consistincy 1?
so... if i double the size of my muzzle flashes, will it work with mp_consistincy 1? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think so. I know muzzleflash is checked by consistency, so I don't think you could double it's size.
p.s. woot, 500th post! i am overjoyed!
It is blocked by mp_consistency due the fact that it is possible to exploit it (by removing it), which thus makes it easier to aim.
However, most servers don't have mp_consistency on 1, so theres no worries. I think consistency is mainly for clan games/scrims/matches/pugs/whatnot.
I'm not going to comment on anything else for fear that I will cause a flamewar!
/me runs
changes for asthetic purposes (high poly models, different/smaller sprites, low-poly world/view models) are fine and dandy to use. as they are considered Personal Customization.
When those changes/customizations change the game for your advantage (and nothing else) that is when those customizations become exploits.
and for further knowlage, <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=19' target='_blank'>we have a customization forum for a reason</a>
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