This Script Ok?
sean6
Join Date: 2004-05-19 Member: 28754Members
Join Date: 2004-05-19 Member: 28754Members
<div class="IPBDescription">a fast switch script (for slot3 weapon)</div> ok I found out that the reason why I don't kill many rines as a skulk is because I cant leap - bite - leap quickly. to solve this I wrote a script so whenever I hold down right-mouse it changes to the leap weapon, and attacks. when I release it, I stop attacking and go back to the bite weapon. here it is:
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->alias "+nonToggleSlot3" "slot3; wait; +attack"
alias "-nonToggleSlot3" "-attack; wait; slot1"
bind MOUSE2 +nonToggleSlot3<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
I want to know 2 things:
1. could I improve on this script?
2. could this be considered cheating? (and if so would that same person be considering all scripts illegal?)
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->alias "+nonToggleSlot3" "slot3; wait; +attack"
alias "-nonToggleSlot3" "-attack; wait; slot1"
bind MOUSE2 +nonToggleSlot3<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
I want to know 2 things:
1. could I improve on this script?
2. could this be considered cheating? (and if so would that same person be considering all scripts illegal?)
Comments
Use the lastinv command to switch between leap and bite.
Its not cheating, however it might not work in an mp_blockscripts server(Its totally worthless anyway, leap/bite scripts, blink/swipe scripts, etc. They're all useless, lastinv gives more control.
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Yea, I'm a bad skulk, but it works for rines and fades.
Use the lastinv command to switch between leap and bite.
Its not cheating, however it might not work in an mp_blockscripts server(Its totally worthless anyway, leap/bite scripts, blink/swipe scripts, etc. They're all useless, lastinv gives more control. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lastinv may give more control but i've tried this and my kills have doubled! got 20 kills 4 deaths in my last game <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->. why do you consider it totally useless?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->??
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->alias "+nonToggleSlot3" "slot3; wait; +attack"
alias "-nonToggleSlot3" "-attack; slot1"
bind MOUSE2 +nonToggleSlot3<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
this way it would look like my script, only with another alias-name
2. You can fint thousands of threads about thin in the forum. Basicly: No, it is no cheating. Some ppl say this script would give you an advantage, other that it is just a customization because scripting is part of the engine... (yea, really complicated issue).
As already said, this script will no work on a server with blockscripts enabled
I believe that the alien weapons in the game (i.e. bite, leap etc..) should not be weapons at all I think they should be abilities. like the marine has many abilities 2 of which are 'use' and to 'fire' his weapon. now a marine can execute any of these abilities using only one button. but the alien requires 2 buttons minimum to use an ability (e.g. leap, bite). I'm simply trying to reduce the complexity, allowing me to use the alien's skills as natural as a 'real' alien would in real life.
also I think the use of lastinv is just preference and I personally would not benefit from this as I sometimes have problems with lastinv (dont ask why its complex).
And your done.
lets say im biting and i want to leap, first hit 3 then left-mouse
with script its just right-mouse <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
lets say im biting and i want to leap, first hit 3 then left-mouse
with script its just right-mouse <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
no it doesn't.
lets say im biting and i want to leap, first hit 3 then left-mouse
with script its just right-mouse <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
no it doesn't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
how can you say i doesnt take at least 2 clicks???
if im biting, and i want to leap
1. i hit 3 (to select leap).
2. i then hit left-mouse (to actually leap).
please explain how that doesnt take 2 clicks?
with my script i just
1. hit right mouse (no matter what weapon i'm currently using)
And then changes to bite, what if you want to blink and swipe or xenocide then leap, or stomp then devour, or umbra then bite or blink, metabolize, blink, blink, swipe a bunch of times, blink , metabolize... or leap, leap again, parasite, leap, bite, bite, bite, leap, bunnyhop or whatever ?
There's a huge set of usefull combinations, if you need a script to do each one you'll quickly run out of easily accessible keys where as I need 5 keys( slot 1-4 and +attack) to do any combination just as quick and easy.
This leaves my left hand free to use strafe for the leap curving and skulk movement since I don't have to move one of my wasd fingers up to 1-2-3-4.
Lasinv on the right mouse button would do the trick too, but the lack of different models for leap and bite often makes me leap when I'm supposed to bite, and vica versa.
(On blockscript servers, you have to press both mouse buttons to leap instead of the right one. Still quite handy, though.)
And then changes to bite, what if you want to blink and swipe or xenocide then leap, or stomp then devour, or umbra then bite or blink, metabolize, blink, blink, swipe a bunch of times, blink , metabolize... or leap, leap again, parasite, leap, bite, bite, bite, leap, bunnyhop or whatever ?
There's a huge set of usefull combinations, if you need a script to do each one you'll quickly run out of easily accessible keys where as I need 5 keys( slot 1-4 and +attack) to do any combination just as quick and easy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
what I was going to do was have 3 (identical) scripts one for each attack (don't need a 4th as they will always go back to using the primary weapon). I have a 7 button mouse so this works rather well. but with these 3 scripts I wont be restricted in any way to using bite after I leap. in fact this works well for any alien. you can execute any of the four attacks using only one button, or all four attacks using a total of 4 buttons not 7 (which is the minimum without scripts, assuming you are already using the first weapon).
This leaves my left hand free to use strafe for the leap curving and skulk movement since I don't have to move one of my wasd fingers up to 1-2-3-4.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have a 5 button mouse and I find it completely pointless because I'm not doing much with my right hand, I'm just aiming and I can afford to press another button without any problems. leap bite becomes: mouse5, mouse1, mouse2, mouse1, that takes something like .2 seconds if I do it as fast as I can and you usually have a second or so to do it, it's super easy scripting or not so I can't see the point.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what I was going to do was have 3 (identical) scripts one for each attack (don't need a 4th as they will always go back to using the primary weapon).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you don't want to go back to the primary weapon you will have to change weapons manually anyway( e.g. blink->meta->blink which is very usefull) and then you need 3 buttons for scripts + 4 buttons for slots + the fire button. And what's actually the use? It takes a tiny fraction of a second to press another button and that's three less buttons you have to remember and get used to(until you get used to it, it will actually take longer to press fewer buttons at a time but having a larger amount of them to choose from).
if you dont want to use the slot1 weapon you wont have to, it's selected yes, but as all other weapons are only a click away so it wont matter.
normally if i want to parasite, Xeno, leap, then bite i must do tap these keys:
2, left-mouse, 4, left mouse, 3, left mouse, 1, left mouse
thats 7 buttons i need to press.
with my script (all three non-primary weapons scripted) i need to press this:
mouse3, mouse5, mouse2, mouse1.
thats 4 buttons for 4 actions. why would i need another 4 for the slots??
in fact, it would be easier to have 4 scripts, one for each button and remove the (return to slot1).
Why would this (possible)delay matter if it is only minor? Well, you'd incur it when trying to use an attack unlike if you change the slots manually where you incur this delay when it doesn't matter(when actually changing). When actually using an attack timing is important so if it's still there that's pretty annoying.