Beta 5 & B.u.s.

NemesisZorroNemesisZorro Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31419Members
edited September 2004 in NS General Discussion
I'm downloading Beta 5 right now. I looked over the changelog ( <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/v30b5-changelog.html' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.org/v30b5-changelog.html</a> ) and there are a ton of changes but I didn't spot any that looked like they were the B.U.S.

Is it in this version? Was it planned to be included in this version? Has it been scrapped entirely?
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2004
    No, no and no.

    [EDIT] and I wouldn't choose that little image as my avatar if I were you.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    BUS not in this version maybe in a few months we'll talk about it then.

    Plus when is the NEW ns site coming? I thought it wouldbe done and replaced when this version was out :/
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    Also why do you have the name that is familiar to Nemesis Zero and why are you using his exact Avatar, seems abit shadey to steal some one elses avatar.
  • NemesisZorroNemesisZorro Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31419Members
    Well this version has more than enough changes to make up for not having the B.U.S. if you ask me. I think that Flayra relinquishing control of NS was a good thing for the mod. It looks like things are actually being developed efficiently and in a timely manner now. GOOD WORK! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NemesisZorroNemesisZorro Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31419Members
    Oh and tons of people have the same Avatar. It's not a big deal. I've had them stolen from me before and I didn't care at all.

    And I've used this name for years and was surprised when I came to NS and saw someone here had such a similar name. I figure maybe we're long lost twins <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Daza4Daza4 Kerc Kasha Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15233Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NemesisZorro+Sep 6 2004, 12:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NemesisZorro @ Sep 6 2004, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh and tons of people have the same Avatar. It's not a big deal. I've had them stolen from me before and I didn't care at all.

    And I've used this name for years and was surprised when I came to NS and saw someone here had such a similar name. I figure maybe we're long lost twins <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well the problem with that logic is that a forum admin (coil) made that avatar for Nem0, Nemesis Zero is a admin.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    No seriously, I hate to sound dictatorial here, but you might wanna lose that avatar and request a name change. But especially the avatar. That's bordering on sacred here..... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Zorro, where is that avatar hosted? Nem wounldn't particularly like you stealing his avatar and putting it up on your own host, nor would he apriciate you syphoning his avatar off of his host. So unless that is publicly hosted somewhere I would recommend removing it immediately.

    And it totally is NOT cool to steal other people's custom made avitars, I would most likely freek if someone stole my sig.
  • TheMunch8TheMunch8 Join Date: 2004-03-03 Member: 27080Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-NemesisZorro+Sep 5 2004, 06:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NemesisZorro @ Sep 5 2004, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well this version has more than enough changes to make up for not having the B.U.S. if you ask me. I think that Flayra relinquishing control of NS was a good thing for the mod. It looks like things are actually being developed efficiently and in a timely manner now. GOOD WORK! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Flayra did NOT relinquish control. He still oversees all modifications and edits. He does balance. He relinquished direct programming duties to work on UWE.
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    Haha. Nemesis Zero is going to have so much fun coming back from his vacation and getting to ban people right away <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    He had me for a few seconds..
  • Omega_DeathOmega_Death Sith apprentice to a box of Cereal Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19042Members
    edited September 2004
    I dont know how spiteful Nem0 will be but if I were you I'd watch out for one of these....

    <span style='color:white'>Oh, the irony. Please don't waste forum bandwith.</span>
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I dunno guys, I don't think that this is quite enough to provoke a ban, I mean immitation is the sincerist form of flattery, or some **** like that, right?

    Most likely it will be some sort of embarrasing name change <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-NemesisZorro+Sep 5 2004, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NemesisZorro @ Sep 5 2004, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And I've used this name for years and was surprised when I came to NS and saw someone here had such a similar name.  I figure maybe we're long lost twins  <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course. And because of that, since your names are so similar by coincidence, you just happened to steal his unique avatar by accident.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    NemesisZorro, welcome to the forums. Your avatar has been removed because it is, as we call them here, an Original Coil work. I'm sorry to inform you that whoever taught you English didn't properly explain that "Tons of people" isn't applicable for a case that isn't even plural.

    In addition, I highly recommend you create a new account with a different name. By maintaining your current one, you are giving up our usual 3-strike "warning->tempsuspension->ban" system; instead it will be "your next infraction->ban for disobeying the rules while imitating an admin."
  • gazOzzgazOzz Work&#39;s a ... Join Date: 2003-12-25 Member: 24747Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    Its weird how human perception twists things... just for a couple of seconds I thought he was nem0... even without the avatar... Is it that I just woke up?... or is it that I missed nem0 in these days of forum riot...
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    If I'm not mistaken, the BUS ever actually seeing the light of day is currently still up in the air. The problem being that the main BUS programmer happened to be everyones favorite ZHLT coder, XP-Cagey. Now, to my knowledge Cageys modifications to ZHLT didn't have anything to do with the BUS, it was just his most well known work to the community.. He also did some stuff behind the scenes.
    Anyways, xp-cagey, like certain other former members of the NS team got hired to work for EA (I believe he is working on the new MOH game currently, if I'm not mistaken). Anyways.. Most game companys have this thing about their employees working for someone else.. Especially if they are doing it for free... Especially if they are doing the same thing for someone else for free as they are being paid to do for them. In this case, coding...

    So for now, no bus. Until either someone else can be found to work on the BUS or XP-cagey can work something out with his new employers so he could work on at least just finishing up the BUS without running risk of being fired or worse..

    So.. that sums it up.. Unless I'm so tired I've started completely making up stuff again, but I'm sure most of this is more or less true.
  • NemesisZorroNemesisZorro Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31419Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NemesisZorro, welcome to the forums. Your avatar has been removed because it is, as we call them here, an Original Coil work. I'm sorry to inform you that whoever taught you English didn't properly explain that "Tons of people" isn't applicable for a case that isn't even plural.

    In addition, I highly recommend you create a new account with a different name. By maintaining your current one, you are giving up our usual 3-strike "warning->tempsuspension->ban" system; instead it will be "your next infraction->ban for disobeying the rules while imitating an admin."
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Okay thanks for the help. I made my own image to put up there and clarified that I'm not impersonating an admin by putting the words "NOT ADMIN" in it. I still wanted it to look kind of like Nemesis Zero's avatar though because I think it's funny our handles are kind of similar and we both play Natural Selection. I also added a signature that makes it clear I'm not Nemesis Zero.

    So Marik now that I've made it clear that I'm not impersonating an admin then I shouldn't have any trouble with that no 3-strike thing you were talking about right?

    And just to clarify, you're saying that "imitating an admin" is not a bannable offense, but "disobeying the rules while imitating an admin" is, correct? So now that I've made it clear I'm not imitating an admin everything should be okay right?
  • PogoPPogoP Environment Artist Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25827Members, NS2 Developer, Constellation
    Technically, if his name has been NemesisZorro all along then he's doing nothing wrong :x
    AND, now he hasn't stole his avatar as he made it himself now. Heh.

    Back to the topic, are we ever GOING to get back to it?
  • gazOzzgazOzz Work&#39;s a ... Join Date: 2003-12-25 Member: 24747Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    lol at nem0's evil twin... He will be suprised a bit I guess... :)
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Not very much, Gazz. Welcome aboard, Zorro. Our names are a little closer than I'm comfortable with, so expect to be under a little more scrunity than usual, but as long as you play by the rules, I've got no problems with the current situation.

    All further such discussion should be moved into PM, by the way. I don't think it's anyone's concern but that of you and the admin / mod in question. Everyone, if you want to see your post stay around, I'd suggest you play by that rule.

    As for BUS, it is, as Anem pointed out, delayed due to Cagey's job at EA (Note that Cagey is the first NS dev to move over to the Dark Side. Our other staff members managed to find jobs at Raven.). I sadly can't comment any further.
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Sep 5 2004, 09:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Sep 5 2004, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Haha. Nemesis Zero is going to have so much fun coming back from his vacation and getting to ban people right away <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and he has alot to do also <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Zorros avatar is cooler.
  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    <b> From IRC</b>
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->(15:43:02) (+m0d]Silverfox) i bet its doom <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    I agree.
  • aonomusaonomus Dedicated NS Mastermind (no need for school) Join Date: 2003-11-26 Member: 23605Members, Constellation
    He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.

    The bus is delayed until XP-Cagey either gets fired from EA or leaves cause they suck...
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    There are other devs you know.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    Also what about the new NS website?
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    edited September 2004
    The "BUS" hasn't been abandoned, but it's been temporarily paused. Puzl will likely be doing primary development on it again soon, but we don't have an ETA or list of initial features for you. Maybe just try to put it out of your mind and get excited when it shows up?

    The new NS website is almost done, it'll be another week or two before it's live I imagine. It is being built to be easy to update, and will be much more 'live' this this one. The forums are staying the same, and your account information here will be preserved.
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    (Sorry for being off topic but figured Flayra might be watching this thread as he posted)

    - I heard that the forums are being redeveloped aswell? I take it from your last post that that isn't the case?
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-SinSpawn+Sep 6 2004, 03:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SinSpawn @ Sep 6 2004, 03:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Plus when is the NEW ns site coming? I thought it wouldbe done and replaced when this version was out :/ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    CM's are beta-testing it and looking for bugs, its coming together very nicely but its not quiet finished.
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