What Actually Shows On Mt...
SmoodCroozn
Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
<div class="IPBDescription">And what doesn't...</div> Ok I keep hearing people bickering and arguing what the heck shows on MT. Some people say "turning" will show up on MT. Some people say running while next to a sensory chamber will show on MT. Can someone lay the exact FACTS, so we can straighten this out once and for all?
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Buildings do not show up on MT.
You will not show up on MT if you stay still but you can still turn.
When you are running in range of an SC, MT still shows up.
Uncertain:
I don't know whether walking eliminates it.
->Turning will NOT show up on motion tracking
->A cloaked skulk will NOT show up on motion tracking. No matter what circumstance. Wether it be walking running, upgrade or sensory chamber, they will NOT show up on motion tracking.
->Transitions between cloaking and uncloaking while moving will OCCATIONALLY show up on motion tracking.
->Anything within obs range WILL be motion tracked, even without the motion tracking upgrade. This includes any structures. Though they are not moving, they will have a motion tracking 'circle' attached to them.
->Anything moving within a scanned area WILL be motion tracked if motion tracking is researched.
But Lito I remember you were testing to prove that MT "counters sensory", but I always thought Sensory was supposed to counter in fact, MT <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I do believe it is a bug but at times the alien hive will show up on MT quite frequently. Webs will show up on MT. Cloaked anything will not show up on MT. Once again another bug, turning skulks will show up on MT, but only occasionally. Anything moving uncloaked thing will show up on MT.
->Anything within obs range WILL be motion tracked, even without the motion tracking upgrade. This includes any structures. Though they are not moving, they will have a motion tracking 'circle' attached to them.
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You sure about this one?
Ive never seen anything motion tracked ever without the MT upgrade.
Webs are not detected by motion tracking, but they are detected by the observatory itself.
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->Anything within obs range WILL be motion tracked, even without the motion tracking upgrade. This includes any structures. Though they are not moving, they will have a motion tracking 'circle' attached to them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You sure about this one?
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They will be tracked, but only on the minimap if I am not mistaken.
Thanks for the info, nice to know.
And yes gangsta, they will show up on the minimap.
FACT:
Running shows
Buildings don't show
RUMOR:
Walking?
Turning?
Web?
Running near sensory chambers?
Walking near sensory chambers?
Turning near sensory chambers?
FACT:
Running shows
Buildings don't show
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Yer you say that, and yet I have seen alien structures on MT before :/
->Turning will NOT show up on motion tracking
-><b>A cloaked lifeform will NOT show up on motion tracking. No matter what circumstance. Wether it be walking running, upgrade or sensory chamber, they will NOT show up on motion tracking.</b>
->Transitions between cloaking and uncloaking while moving will OCCATIONALLY show up on motion tracking.
->Anything within obs range WILL be motion tracked, even without the motion tracking upgrade. This includes any structures. They will be seen on the minimap as a red dot without MT researched, they will show up as MT circles when it has been researched.
->Anything moving within a scanned area WILL be motion tracked if motion tracking is researched.
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I've fixed it up a bit for clarity, but these are all tested and true.
So you can stop researching MT to counter sensory when sensory counters MT.
Although I say that webs do not show up on motion tracking, I've seen them motion tracked before. Odd.
/me thinks this needs testing.
Walking does and does not show on MT. It depends on the speed settings. Ie, walking in s straight line at max walkspeed shows, but small jerks or walking with a slow walkspeed setting will not show.
Sensory chambers do not in anyway effect MT
Turning... :S
Buildings do not show on MT, but the MT sprite shows on buildings if an observatory is nearby. (As Waller said.)
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I tested it With mt alone, obs without mt researched and an obs with mt researched. They didn't show up on any of these situations.
Note that I've TESTED this. Any "I'm sure that" or "I'm pretty positive on..." that contradicts the facts that I posted above are most likely <b>wrong</b>.
I'll test out how uncloaked walking shows up on MT later tonight, Blue.
/me pokes Lito
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haven't you noticed that usually motion track get useless against 3 hives? it's because gorges start to drop sensory chamber at each corner of the map
That is not true. An alien who is near a sensory chamber, but is not cloaked, will be tracked. Only if it is cloaked will it not be tracked.
which is a bug; fixed for beta 5
Uncloaked?
Motion?
Looking?
Buildings?
Doesn't show:
Cloaked?
Staying still?
Someone please straighten this out. MT should be clarified to the public, not some mysterious force.
If you're cloaked, you're (supposedly) hidden from MT. Though the number of people who are called on killing a cloaker who reply with MT is pretty contrary to that, though.
Staying completely still will not show you at all on MT, or at least it shouldn't.
I am pretty sure by everyones comments that any movements whether running turning or walking while under a sensory is not detectable on MT.
I am reviving this until there is a clear statement.
MT is the counter to MC.
Movement is motion. MT tracks motion, thus movement.
MT only tracks things that are moving fast enough. Anything that normally cloaks you, or can be done while cloaked, will not blip you.
While running through the radius of an SC should blip you (as you are moving fast enough, but are still cloaked.. and MT works on MOTION not SIGHT) we are forgetting that the SC has some sort of MAGICAL FUNCTION that blocks MT within range, although this effect seems to be sketchy at best. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
La fin.
I want it from a dev, or something close to that rank. BTW: don't necropost.
For instance, an obs placed anywhere will cancel out anything cloaked within range. Aliens within range of an obs will show up on MINI-map motion tracking, regardless of an MT upgrade. An obs is the counter to sensory chambers. cloaking is a counter to motion tracking.
The reason webbing and chambers show up on motion tracking is because of the presence of an obs nearby in conjunction with the MT upgrade. An obs reveals all structures / aliens, and MT displays them on the HUD.
The simple explanatin is this:
OBS>Sensory Chamber>Cloaking>Motion Tracking>movement.