Rumors Of 64 Bit Processors

AmbassadorAmbassador Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13942Members
<div class="IPBDescription">...OS not made for them yet?</div> I've just had a discussion with my brother about which processor I should get and he said that they haven't made an operating system for 64 bit processors yet. He said that you can d/l a beta copy of their new os.

For all of yall who've updated their comps to 64 bit, can you tell me if you have to d/l a beta copy or does it work with the latest OS?

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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    edited August 2004
    Have you or will you purchase a 64-bit processor? If you haven't yet, I wouldn't really recommend it. 64-bit is nice and all, but it's not really necessary. By the time 64-bit will make a real difference, your computer will probably be outdated anyway. If I were you, I'd go for a cheaper non-64, keep that for a while, and update to 64-bit when it's catching on. It's not common enough to be useful yet.
  • AmbassadorAmbassador Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13942Members
    lol, sounds good thx for the advice.
  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    IIRC Microsoft has a 64 bit beta of XP out (for free I think?), and I'm sure the Linux people quickly whipped up many distros of 64 bit Linux shortly after the processers came out. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    Well from what I hear, you have to buy the Athlon XP series of the 64-bit CPU's. Also, I hear that the next version of Windows (Longhorn) wont be compatible with 64-bit technology.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Skidzor+Aug 22 2004, 07:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skidzor @ Aug 22 2004, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well from what I hear, you have to buy the Athlon XP series of the 64-bit CPU's. Also, I hear that the next version of Windows (Longhorn) wont be compatible with 64-bit technology. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Longhorn isn't coming out for a good 2 years at least though? And, btw, for some reason 64-bit procs do a lot better at gaming. so it might be ok to invest the extra 40$ for an ath-64.
  • MadCowMadCow Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13398Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Aug 22 2004, 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Aug 22 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Skidzor+Aug 22 2004, 07:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skidzor @ Aug 22 2004, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well from what I hear, you have to buy the Athlon XP series of the 64-bit CPU's. Also, I hear that the next version of Windows (Longhorn) wont be compatible with 64-bit technology. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Longhorn isn't coming out for a good 2 years at least though? And, btw, for some reason 64-bit procs do a lot better at gaming. so it might be ok to invest the extra 40$ for an ath-64. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What are you basing this on?
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    windows xp 64 bit beta, fedora core 2 64 bit beta

    and the os does not have to support 64 bit processors, as 64 bit processors support 32 bit applications. (read: unless ms decides to tell longhorn not to boot if the processor is not a 32 bit processor, longhorn will work under the new amds and soon to come intels. note that this would not be a wise move on the part of microsoft)
  • MadCowMadCow Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13398Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Black Mage+Aug 22 2004, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Aug 22 2004, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> windows xp 64 bit beta, fedora core 2 64 bit beta

    and the os does not have to support 64 bit processors, as 64 bit processors support 32 bit applications. (read: unless ms decides to tell longhorn not to boot if the processor is not a 32 bit processor, longhorn will work under the new amds and soon to come intels. note that this would not be a wise move on the part of microsoft) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah 32 bit apps run on 64 bit processors, but you are not getting any perfomance increase just because you are using a 64 bit processor.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    The 64 bit processor is still faster than most available processors. Check out benchmarks, in gaming Athlon 64 > Intel HT. It's worth the time and $$$ to get a 64 bit processor.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I'd save your money and just wait and go all out. 64bit cpu+pci express.
  • ironpancakeironpancake Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16643Members
    64 bit proccesors move around and save 64 bits at a time. If the program is only made to tell the processor to lug around 32 bits there won't be any difference between a 64 bit and a 32 bit processor if they are of equal speeds. And yes there are 64 bit operating systems.
  • antifreezeantifreeze The guy with the goods&#33; Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16232Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-MadCow+Aug 23 2004, 03:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MadCow @ Aug 23 2004, 03:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Aug 22 2004, 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Aug 22 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Skidzor+Aug 22 2004, 07:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skidzor @ Aug 22 2004, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well from what I hear, you have to buy the Athlon XP series of the 64-bit CPU's. Also, I hear that the next version of Windows (Longhorn) wont be compatible with 64-bit technology. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Longhorn isn't coming out for a good 2 years at least though? And, btw, for some reason 64-bit procs do a lot better at gaming. so it might be ok to invest the extra 40$ for an ath-64. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What are you basing this on? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Farcry has the athlon 64Bit logo stamped to the back of it
  • littlewildlittlewild Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9467Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MadCow+Aug 22 2004, 10:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MadCow @ Aug 22 2004, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Black Mage+Aug 22 2004, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Aug 22 2004, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> windows xp 64 bit beta, fedora core 2 64 bit beta

    and the os does not have to support 64 bit processors, as 64 bit processors support 32 bit applications. (read: unless ms decides to tell longhorn not to boot if the processor is not a 32 bit processor, longhorn will work under the new amds and soon to come intels. note that this would not be a wise move on the part of microsoft) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah 32 bit apps run on 64 bit processors, but you are not getting any perfomance increase just because you are using a 64 bit processor. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Er I think you are generalizing things quite a bit.

    AMD64 uses an extension of the x86 instructions to run application that have been developed to run in 64bits. It is not the number of bits that the CPU has but rather what instruction sets it can execute. The Alpha is 64 bit too and I'd like to see some one running 32-bit x86 Windows XP on it without some sort of emulator.
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    There is a 64-bit version of XP, but I don't know much about it. Simply from being XP I can infer that it will be both expensive and a pain in the neck compared to win2k.
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    AMD's 64 bit processors also do 32 bit computing. I bought mine because it beats the crap out of intel's latest for less money, the 64 bit featues were just a nice little bonus. There are 64 bit versions of linux and a beta 64 bit windows.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrPink+Aug 23 2004, 02:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrPink @ Aug 23 2004, 02:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> AMD's 64 bit processors also do 32 bit computing. I bought mine because it beats the crap out of intel's latest for less money, the 64 bit featues were just a nice little bonus. There are 64 bit versions of linux and a beta 64 bit windows. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sums it up nicely.
    To clear up other points:

    WinXP 64bit Ed exists, but certainly is not free.
    Longhorn no longer uses SQL filing system, is clunky, chunky, and broken. I would not use it even if it does support 64bit (my version does not, but that's a Beta.)

    Linux has 64 bit Eds (Red hat does at least,) but I have not tried them. (Now that I have a stable install of a linux distro I like, I won't be chaning it for a while. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    Think that covers everything.

    Ah,
    AMD64 > Intel HT/other intel => Most AMDs > Other offerings

    IMO. Not biased too, as I have PCs with both AMD and Intel boards.
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