Little Help For Sulk Aiming

justus · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Take off those teeths!</div> Can you see properly through skulk teeths when you wanna bite some marine **obscenity**?Do you feel usually after you've attacked on marine that you AGAIN get totally lost and got nailed by marine MG?
Well i made tiny script for sulk and why not to other aliens and marines too.Reason why need to do this is that you cannot keep r_drawviewmodel 0 allways enabled becose then you cannot see those rounds(hive sigh thingys) in your screen and not many other things too.This is easy...just put bind in any button you want(mine in mouse3) and before you gonna kill that marine **obscenity** push it and you get much more clear sigh when you are biting that **obscenity** down.Well script is here:

//Little help for skulk made by Justus
alias drc1 "r_drawviewmodel 0 ; alias drchang drc2"
alias drc2 "r_drawviewmodel 1 ; alias drchang drc1"
alias drchang "drc1"

bind mouse3 "drchang"
//End

I know that this is easy script but it is for newbies or for "leet" players who didnt got it in mind like me (yeah right <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'> )

Well be free to give feedback from this <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

Riskbreaker · November 2002

It's not that hard to see through the teeth, and it's kind of a cool feature. It's also possible that the lack of visibilty while biting is a balance issue, but I'm not sure.

RaideN · November 2002

Perhaps the dev team could make it so the Mouth becomes 'cloaked' when snapping shut. Thus giving it the effect that its still there but so you can see through it.

Rokiyo · November 2002

Ba!

I'm going from defending something that wasn't really an exploit to finding something that definately IS an exploit.

Don't tell me you honestly believe the skulk's bite covers up your screen because it looks pretty! The skulk's bite does 70 damage per hit, that is an insane amount of damage to do, so there had to be a balancing factor. The mouth obscures your screen so much because makes the kill that much harder to pull off.

If the dev team made it easier to bite with a skulk, then they would have to reduce the damage it does in order to keep the balance. Please don't use this trick anymore, as it is definately a naughty one...

LiquidFusion · November 2002

Well personally i still don't notice whats so bad. I've looked i just can't see what you guys are talking about. The model is great. it creates atmosphere which i love about this game. Atmosphere is VERY hard to pull off in a multiplayer game. I think its fine, but if you want to create a script that does that sure go ahead, its not that big of a deal.

Hayduke · November 2002

Yeah I agree. Without having the teeth, I just wouldn't feel like a skulk. It would take away from the fun.

padijun · November 2002

But if you can't see your teeth, you also can't see locations, which hives you have, your resources or your energy. It's a 2 edged sword.

Jorderon · November 2002

Without the teeth I couldn't make bad jokes every time I killed a marine, and then I would be sad, bored and angry.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'>

BugHunt · November 2002

IMHO all they really need to do is add a blood splatter or scream. Something to tell us if we've connected or not.

dkure · November 2002

for those ppl that are reallllllly lazy i will make a script for when u attack it turns off ur model

now this will happen to all aliens AND humans so i will make another little script so u can press mouse3 to cycle it on and off

// Fire script to turn off weapons made by D-Kure

alias dv0 "developer 0"
alias dv1 "developer 1"

alias "+fire_none" "+attack;wait;r_drawviewmodel 0"
alias "-fire_none" "-attack;wait;r_drawviewmodel 1"

alias "+fire" "+attack"
alias "-fire" "-attack"
alias "fire_change" "fire_weap"
alias "fire_weap" "alias +fire +attack;alias -fire -attack;alias fire_change fire_none;dv1;echo -= Weapon Showing =-;dv0"
alias "fire_none" "alias +fire +fire_none;alias -fire -fire_none;alias fire_change fire_weap;dv1;echo -= No Weapon Showing =-;dv0"

bind mouse1 +fire
bind mouse3 fire_change

Stormeh · November 2002

:o NS is being invaded by evil scripters!!!!!

play the game the way it was meant to

padijun · November 2002

Yeah, they gave you the console for no reason whatsoever! Don't USE it!

Hellbilly · November 2002

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> bah! Evil scripts!! I banish thy!!

I really like the closing teeth effect and i?m getting better at predicting bites without really seeing the target all that good. It?s just a matter of developing skills in action, not scripting <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

I?m playing the game as it is meant be.

Black_Wolf · November 2002

you shouldnt make scripts to change the way the game is meant to be played, this isnt CS, everything in here is finely balanced. I hope this thread gets closed soon . . .

Black_Wolf · November 2002

Play the game the way it was meant to be played, this isnt CS, everything is finely balanced. I hope Flayra disable r_drawviewmodel for the next patch/release.

Edit: apparently i cant say **obscenity**

guagle · November 2002

yes you can say **obscenity**

lljk_pointy · November 2002

h3y 4ll l337 hax0rz! i m4de dis 1337 scr|pt so all teh M4RIN3 F4G0TZ turn BRIGHt 0R4NG3!!!!!11 SO U C4N s33 t3hm form f444r aw4y!, alz0 i mead tihs scr|}pz t0 maek ur skulkzor <b>COLOR=blue] 4uto-folllow</b>[/i] teh marien yuo taergt! dt way u w0nt he4v to run aruond in circles anym0r! haahahhahaha!

justus · November 2002

wow i didnt exept peoples that little pice of "script" if you can call it script so seriously...dont you peoples then think that if that teethmodel is "balancing" thing in game wont developers take r_drawviewmodel away from us then?Well anyways i am happy that my thread was so...popular? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Ben128 · November 2002

Please nobody use this. It removes alot of character from the game. I am really disappointed that people would ever exploit scripts. But ah well. I pray that this will not get as bad as CS. Please, I am begging the DEV's, if you can, find some way to disable this script, or if not to let us know who is using it.

Paladyne-TPF · November 2002

I'm always a little amused and saddened when I see posts that boil down to "if it's not default it's not legit."

Back in the days of QTF, there was no such thing as "default." If you were playing, you had to download the mod, bind all your keys yourself (no menus), and often create your own models to play. This led to such things as elaborate scripts and bright green models for visibility. Of course, this wasn't a problem because everyone had equal access to them, and was aware that their opponents could easily be using them. Use was an individual choice.

Now that Valve has made things easier, arguments are starting to come in that "anything that's not default is cheating" which is BS. "Default" has absolutely nothing to do with "legit." Want to know what's cheating and what's not?

1) It allows you to do something you could not otherwise do. Keep in mind that this extends beyond simple movement/jumping/firing/etc, so stacking players <i>is</i> legit, as is improving your visibility by removing eye candy.
2) It provides an <i>unfair</i>advantage over other players. The key word is unfair; do the other players have reasonable access to this advantage? Could they obtain the same advantage if they put some effort into it?
3) It goes against the spirit of the game or the intent of the creator. Although we could debate this point for days on end, really it all comes down to what the development team intended, so only they can answer that question. Are the teeth merely atmosphere (and very nice atmosphere at that!) or are they actually part of gameplay balance (in which case the skulk is [i]meant to be blind for a fraction of a second)? Nobody can answer that but the creators.

Necro · November 2002

this is a MAJOR exploit. i can go 25/4 with the jaws, and without probably a lot more. they make it TOO easy to kill and were added as a way 2 balance the skulk.

Flayra · November 2002

We've talked about this a million times already, and the NS team considers it a cheat. If you ever plan on competing in NS in any real fashion, scripts and console access won't be allowed. Any skills you learn using scripts like this won't apply to your real NS skills.

Little Help For Sulk Aiming

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