Go Retail!
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Join Date: 2002-10-28 Member: 1677Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Sell this baby!</div> Congratulations NS, you have just replaced the Counter-Strike link on my desktop and been placed in my quicklaunch taskbar <i>(a position held by such other noble programs as WinAmp, Iexplorer, Calculator)</i>. And as I did this quick task, it occured to me, Natural-Selection is better than Counter-Strike! This simple icon changing was a symbol of things to come: Natural-Selection will be more popular than counter-strike is!
Now maybe its the Root Beer talking, or the fact that my brain is more mush than grey-matter after 4 straight hours of Natural Selection, but for god sakes NS already has like as many servers as the venerable DoD, and NS is only on version 1.0.1! I mean in every game I play I'm always yelling about unfairly balanced teams and how I always get stuck in some wall or something, but I still love this game sooooo much that I can't stop playing. If you guys ever fix even one more bug I don't think I'll ever find a reason to stop playing. Its like Everquest in the sense that <i>I can't stop playing</i> BUT its unlike everquest in the sense that <i>its not tedious and boring</i> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
So basically my question is this... will one of you programmers have my love child-- WAIT NO! Sorry wrong question... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> My question is this: "When will VALVe make NS an official mod, and start selling it in stores... and Why haven't they already!?!?!?!"
Discuss...
Now maybe its the Root Beer talking, or the fact that my brain is more mush than grey-matter after 4 straight hours of Natural Selection, but for god sakes NS already has like as many servers as the venerable DoD, and NS is only on version 1.0.1! I mean in every game I play I'm always yelling about unfairly balanced teams and how I always get stuck in some wall or something, but I still love this game sooooo much that I can't stop playing. If you guys ever fix even one more bug I don't think I'll ever find a reason to stop playing. Its like Everquest in the sense that <i>I can't stop playing</i> BUT its unlike everquest in the sense that <i>its not tedious and boring</i> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
So basically my question is this... will one of you programmers have my love child-- WAIT NO! Sorry wrong question... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> My question is this: "When will VALVe make NS an official mod, and start selling it in stores... and Why haven't they already!?!?!?!"
Discuss...
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go NS team!, absolutely fantastic, and still gonna get better (tweak a few more stats, maybe revamp teh jetpacks)
I know id pay for this mod
and if CS deserves retail placement, NS definately does
and i totally agree with the EQ - NS reference, im addicted to NS, and its worth the attention!
Keep up the good work!
But realistically, #2 might be the best that can be achieved.
Hmm ...
Don't know about this ...
If anyone who downloaded the leaked ATI build Doom III version 0.02 build, they would know that Doom III has an <b>insanely</b> amount of detail in it ...
The Doom III maps are <b>extremely</b> detailed ...
And we don't know much about Doom III yet ...
So lets just wait until Doom III is released and then shoot up crazy mod suggestions for it ya?
Although at the moment, all games produced by id Software is mod friendly ...
(yes, HL engine is a heavily modified Quake 1 engine)
Anyway if ns ever went retail the best time is now. If you did it late like cs you bring a whole set of n00bs in that are really crap (ns is harder to get used to than cs as well) then in flow the cheats. Yeah well i pretty much stoped playin cs when it went retail it seemed to get boring after that then ya started getting ppl hedshooting you through walls, then coming out with lame excuses like you were there before and **obscenity**.
Isnt the detail in Doom 3 the textures, cant remember the name think its bump mapping or somin. It gives the ilusion with lighting effects on textures that there is alot of detail in the model but if you strip the texture it will end up as a plain bog standard high poly model. Well not to say this is bad, its very very cool. I just stating a fact that could well not be a fact as i may have it all wrong. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Im a silly bugger if i do, just correct me, dont slit my throat or anythin like what happens to ppl normaly.
Some points in the models are probably extremely high poly count but not as much as it shows.
CS was okay, but when it went retail, every yuppy nine year old with his mommy's checkbook jumped on board seeing as it had become so much more easier to do it.
The only advantage to going retail that i would see is that the dev team might actually get money for what they have been doing. And what a worthy thing it has been too.
But that ain't why the Dev's did it, was it? It was to give birth to something that would unify the RTS and FPS worlds. To create something so powerful and mind rattilingly different from any other thing Halflife had ever seen that it has torn the winds of time from the sky itself.
Or am i reading too much into this?
never mind that now.
Truthfully, the Dev team did it because they love the whole idea of teamwork and RTS. They must have also loved Alien, Aliens and Starcraft as well.
LM
Sigh... when are we going to stop getting things like this
This game was not meant as a "wannabe"
You would have to use the same reasoning for Starcraft being a wannabe aliens....
Because games have similar species... does not make them the same game.
Like i said in another thread... does everyone who portrays dwarfs as small and strong ripping of tolkien? I THINK NOT.
Sigh... when are we going to stop getting things like this
This game was not meant as a "wannabe"
You would have to use the same reasoning for Starcraft being a wannabe aliens....
Because games have similar species... does not make them the same game.
Like i said in another thread... does everyone who portrays dwarfs as small and strong ripping of tolkien? I THINK NOT.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
are you stupid? Anything with aliens in it is a rip off!
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no.
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in fact, Flayra said that it would remain free; always.
OMG. Subspace! I loved subspace. It was the first online game that I ever played/got hooked on. Then came Half-Life a while later. Subspace is the only game I've seen that didn't noticeably lag on a 56k modem.
Anyway, when it went pay, I stopped playing for a bit, then finally bought it, and found that there were few people still playing it.
I think I have that installed around here somewhere still... I'd look, but I think everyone here knows what I'd rather be playing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
From this link:
<a href='http://www.cafeshops.com/thensstore' target='_blank'>http://www.cafeshops.com/thensstore</a>
We won't have any copywrite issues as far as the name 'Natural Selection' is concerned. That's already our property <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> (Or Charlie's, to be exact.)
ALOT of mods have been better then CS. Just most of the players don't pay attention to them. When it comes to looks just look at CS models and compair them to many other models other there and the real thing. You will burst out laughing when you see their lack of details, errors and overwhelming fuglyness. CS is just mod that came out early and everyone played so much that they didn't realize mods got a lot better since then. Yes I also believe models don't make the mod, gameplay does but CS misses alot of good gameplay they could of got easy...
I say don't go retail, you gain 20 times the "n00bs" and selling something that you release for free is just stupid, no marketing stratigy included(unless it was a demo that had very few features compaired to the full deal). I am guessing Flay already saw this because what he said in the FAQ.
This is the deal: if NS goes retail, it will still remain free. NS will always be free. Let me say it again. NS will always be free.
You may be able to buy it in the store, but if you don't want to, you'll always be able to download it. We're not ever taking NS away from the masses.