Blood Electrification

illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
I've been doing some research (google style, of course) into Bioelectric healing and Blood Electrification, and the amount of material available on the subjects is astounding. Take everything as in context, and don't get too hung up if some of the sites contain "conspiracy theory" stuff.

<a href='http://www.bioelectric.ws/eng/stories2.html' target='_blank'>Here</a> <a href='http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/07/23/blood_electrification_effectiveness_on_malaria.htm' target='_blank'>are</a> <a href='http://www.toolsforhealing.com/CD/Articles/B/BobBeck/BobBeckInfo.html' target='_blank'>some</a> <a href='http://www.bioelectric.ws/eng/experiments.html' target='_blank'>good</a> <a href='http://www.excel.net/~jaguar/news/jan99.html' target='_blank'>places to</a> <a href='http://educate-yourself.org/be/beckelectrifierschematicandparts.shtml' target='_blank'>start.</a>

Considering that anyone can create these particular instruments themselves, I don't see too much of a credibility gap as I do with the typical "snake oil" remedies.

The most fascinating thing is the device patented in 1992 that was shown to reduce/eliminate the AIDS virus in petri dishes, and even a patient (as I recall).

Discuss your thoughts.

Comments

  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited August 2004
    <a href='http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/' target='_blank'>*Cough*</a>

    A magnet cannot do anything to your body, certainly not a refridgerator magnet or whatever BS they're trying to get you to believe. If it were this 'startling discovery' would've been discovered about two centuries ago...

    The electric blood from that bioelectric site looked a bit more feasible, but considering the site looks like it was made by an 8 year old, and they believe in "of methods that work in harmony with nature (as opposed to those which damage the body)" I'm not putting much stock in their 'miracle cures'. Best thing about it is that the 'experiment results' page don't actually tell you if the electrical current 'burned out' the HIV and left healthy cells... In fact, for all I can tell, the electrical current simply fried it to dust, eliminating the HIV.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.cogreslab.co.uk/magnetic_health.htm' target='_blank'>Funny that you mentioned magnets....</a>

    Interesting stuff right there. Perhaps you spoke too soon EEK. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited August 2004
    So next time I'm sick it's becaue my 'electrons are out of alignment'? That's just as bad as 'fever is caused by bad blood' *slice*.

    "Another researcher, Horie, in 1976 used magnetic finger rings to test their effects. Again he found that they were 76 to 93 percent effective in treating shoulder stiffness, and even when the tests were "blind", there was still a considerable difference between the controls and the cases, so the placebo effect was evidently not responsible for the difference."

    Sure it was. 90 percent effective. And yet, this miraculous cure for what most people go in for surgeries has been kept secret by monks in caves why?

    Yet I don't see people going in for an MRI (which is considerably more powerful then your little cobalt magnet) and coming out cured.


    I'll wait for the Scientific American study on this before I start walking around with a 5 pound magnet on my foot to cure lukemia.



    And you still haven't answer the 'Eternal Life Device'. One page says magnets will cure back problems. Another says that it will let "Your IQ will break 180". You know, when I see things like that I get skeptical. Some people believe that some pervert on a stage throwing his hands around screaming about jesus will cure your cirrhosis by hitting you on the head too.
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Not many people , - even fewer scientists - , would profess to understand what magnetism really is, and fewer still can explain if or how it affects human cells.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's all I had to read to realize that's a bunch of bull. We know exactly how magnetism works. The alignment of certain types of metal make the electron orbits compliment each other.

    Not to bash anyone's source here, but I can't say I particularly believe that site after having given an fictitious fact.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    You know EEK, I'm surprised that you're the least receptive to these alternative techniques. You know, pharmaceutical companies are not interested in creating cures for cancer and AIDS. They can make so much more $$$$ treating them instead.

    Wait, why are there no real studies into this...hmmm...oh yeah, no real way to make immense profits off of this technology...certainly not nearly enough to support the ever fattening Drug Cartels of the U.S.A.

    That's why I'm interested in this. Even if much of it is hype, there is truth in there, discovered by Tesla in the 1800's. Your body has all kinds of voltage in it already. Why is it such a stretch that if your body's natural equilibrium is out of wack that you have a higher chance of becoming infected with pathogens? And why is it a stretch to think that pathogens, proven to be vulnerable to most electricity, could be eliminated through at least one of the above methods?

    I'll be building one of those particular devices on my own soon, so I'll make sure this forum gets any personal experiences I find with it.

    Also, Colloidal Silver has gone through FDA approval. Wait, there's some truth to these ideas already. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HAMBoneHAMBone Probably the best Commander Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15139Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited August 2004
    Wether or not all this stuff is true I always like to see someone researching something outside of the mainstream BS, keep it up

    Wilhelm Reich was the first to experiment with orgone afaik. He is an incredibly brilliant guy, i really love his writing style, hes got 20-40 books out there, some on orgone, some really good books on psychology, if you want to get a Reich book my favorite one and the first i'd highly recommend is "Listen, Little Man." I'd classify it as a psychology book.

    Also, I think you will find this site: <a href='http://www.rife.org' target='_blank'>Royal Raymond Rife - <a href='http://www.rife.org' target='_blank'>http://www.rife.org</a></a> very interesting.
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-illuminex+Aug 14 2004, 08:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illuminex @ Aug 14 2004, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, Colloidal Silver has gone through FDA approval. Wait, there's some truth to these ideas already. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Colloidal silver is indeed magnificient. That is, if you want a greyish skin colour - an irreversible side-effect of ingesting the said substance. Research "argyria" for further information.
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