<div class="IPBDescription">and were can i get it?</div> Ok I need EVERYTHING! Map editor NS pack thingy. etc. Ive made a few Q2 maps. this cant be much harder. thanks in advance and give me links if you can. tutorials would be nice also.
You want to read the FAQ thread at the top of this forum, it has links to lots of useful stuff.. including the NS mapping guidelines, the quick start guide and other goodies. The best place for map-type questions is VERC ( links in thread ) .
If you have NS you should ( afaik) have everything you need, except Valve Hammer Editor ( free from VERC or most coverdisks/valve games) and compile tools.
Get Zoners compile tools, or whatever the latest version is from VERC. They are much better than the ones that come with Hammer/ WorldCraft, much more helpful error messages etc..
Hint: Use the search function on the VERC forums. They know everything tbh..
Handy Vandals has lots of tutorials, as does Counter-Map, Snarkpit and loads of others ( either follow the links or google 'em.)
Read all the tutorials you can find, play around with ideas etc, have fun.
I believe Hammer is quite similar to some Q2 editors so you might find it all very easy.
<!--QuoteBegin--longshot007+Nov 6 2002, 06:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (longshot007 @ Nov 6 2002, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ive made a few Q2 maps. this cant be much harder.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Couldn't be farther from the truth. Couldn't be farther at all.
<!--QuoteBegin--Greedo386+Nov 7 2002, 06:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greedo386 @ Nov 7 2002, 06:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--longshot007+Nov 6 2002, 06:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (longshot007 @ Nov 6 2002, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ive made a few Q2 maps. this cant be much harder.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Couldn't be farther from the truth. Couldn't be farther at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, I suppose he could've said it was easier than Q2....
<!--QuoteBegin--longshot007+Nov 7 2002, 05:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (longshot007 @ Nov 7 2002, 05:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->well considering half lifes engine started out as the Q2 engine i cant see why not.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh, there are similarities all right, but the point is the entity system used in HL is far more complex than Quake, and NS puts standard HL to shame.
I made gloom maps to <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> . hehe i know itll be a little hard but cant be to much.
First, I'm going to point you <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=8143' target='_blank'>Here</a>
Next, I have to agree with Greedo. You could not be further from the truth. Mapping for NS is VERY different and extremely hard, Most of the experienced NS mappers have constantly over and over again recommended that you NEVER start with mapping for NS if you are new to mapping. I know that you've done maps for q2, but still I suggest you do some HL SP maps or something first before moving on to NS
I only started recently on Hammer, but I reckon I could fire up a playable HLDM map in a couple of days, but a good NS map might take a few months, if, and thats IF I ever make one thats up to standard....
Oooo Aint they GOOD!!?
:exit suckup mode....
It is sooooo fiddly, although , now I've actually had a go at the game I feel I have a LOT better idea as to what I should be aiming for...
If nothing else, I now understand what the PT's meant when they said " Look, that will be impossible as Aliens, chuck a vent in here, make that a sneaky alien-only shortcut...."
Ah well, I now know 3 times as much about Hammer as I did before I started...
btw, will it be considered "dodgy" when I make a map with horrible secret pasages that only I know about?
Or is that just realistic....?
/me demands a possible slightly-cheaty-win solution..<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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If you have NS you should ( afaik) have everything you need, except Valve Hammer Editor ( free from VERC or most coverdisks/valve games) and compile tools.
Get Zoners compile tools, or whatever the latest version is from VERC. They are much better than the ones that come with Hammer/ WorldCraft, much more helpful error messages etc..
Hint: Use the search function on the VERC forums. They know everything tbh..
Handy Vandals has lots of tutorials, as does Counter-Map, Snarkpit and loads of others ( either follow the links or google 'em.)
Read all the tutorials you can find, play around with ideas etc, have fun.
I believe Hammer is quite similar to some Q2 editors so you might find it all very easy.
Good Luck!
Couldn't be farther from the truth. Couldn't be farther at all.
Couldn't be farther from the truth. Couldn't be farther at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, I suppose he could've said it was easier than Q2....
And if there's something at the top of the page that says "Read this before posting!" it might just be a good idea to actually read it.
Oh, there are similarities all right, but the point is the entity system used in HL is far more complex than Quake, and NS puts standard HL to shame.
Next, I have to agree with Greedo. You could not be further from the truth. Mapping for NS is VERY different and extremely hard, Most of the experienced NS mappers have constantly over and over again recommended that you NEVER start with mapping for NS if you are new to mapping. I know that you've done maps for q2, but still I suggest you do some HL SP maps or something first before moving on to NS
That's true....
It's bloody difficult.
I only started recently on Hammer, but I reckon I could fire up a playable HLDM map in a couple of days, but a good NS map might take a few months, if, and thats IF I ever make one thats up to standard....
Oooo Aint they GOOD!!?
:exit suckup mode....
It is sooooo fiddly, although , now I've actually had a go at the game I feel I have a LOT better idea as to what I should be aiming for...
If nothing else, I now understand what the PT's meant when they said " Look, that will be impossible as Aliens, chuck a vent in here, make that a sneaky alien-only shortcut...."
Ah well, I now know 3 times as much about Hammer as I did before I started...
btw, will it be considered "dodgy" when I make a map with horrible secret pasages that only I know about?
Or is that just realistic....?
/me demands a possible slightly-cheaty-win solution..<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->