What Would Stop Some Of The Crying

NightShadeNightShade Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2219Members
edited November 2002 in NS General Discussion
Would be to make the be acid blobs of doom shoot back way it use to. 3 fades can take out a grp of humans easy. No matter if you do the math fact is fact. You say skill i say thats fine. aliens was suppose to be master of up close combat not range. give aliens range and you take a edge that the humans really need. Some range is needed yes. but to be able to do blobs of doom everywhere. Then again leave it and when there will be clan matches or vs people will fight over the aliens. Ok here is how it is. Humans have to get cash and save up. Aliens all they got to do is get to hives and bam there ya go. while humans saving up for defs cash for weapons to get better ha and ammo to guard resources while aliens are moving in super fast gaining others and putting up defs. And when we attack theres. here comes the fades defending it. I think the regen change the extra armor fades auto teams nade changes and the aliens off turrets was enough. oh and the resource bug so to speak

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  • TabrisTabris Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4273Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kilmster+Nov 7 2002, 09:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kilmster @ Nov 7 2002, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Every time an alien respawns, if it wants upgrades it has to evolve every single upgrade and change to a different form (if they choose to.)

    This doesn't cost a lot of rps per alien, but it does take a considerable amount of time.



    It is up to your commander to organize better counter-assaults.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed... Frankly... dying as a marine.. and dying as an alien.. I find the alien more frustrating... We cannot PICK UP our teamates forms and use them after they die.

    If we only have 2 hives and we just hit 44 resources? its gonna take a long time before i can evolve to a fade again.

    One thing I have noticed.. is that Heavies for the marines ARE NOT being backed up by welders.
  • NightShadeNightShade Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2219Members
    true but also fact that humans depend on a commander that is doing so many other jobs. It is not easy. I would be happy to be able to build a hmg takes same time to upgrade to a fade. that way i would not have to bug someone for it. then i could heal myself by turning into a gorg and making defs chambers. make a fade and blob attack. then run back to my defs chambers with the added bonus of the regen and i am full in no time to start the blob spam again. Could a human do that? would cost cash that everyone must share
  • NightShadeNightShade Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2219Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Agreed... Frankly... dying as a marine.. and dying as an alien.. I find the alien more frustrating... We cannot PICK UP our teamates forms and use them after they die.

    If we only have 2 hives and we just hit 44 resources? its gonna take a long time before i can evolve to a fade again.

    One thing I have noticed.. is that Heavies for the marines ARE NOT being backed up by welders. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    But the blast radius of the goo balls of doom still would hurt bad
  • MutantMFMMutantMFM Join Date: 2002-07-27 Member: 1005Members
    The real fun as a alien is when you build a couple turrets infront of the marines entrance. The put like 7 defence chambers or mor near them and blamo invinvible barricade. There is almost no way to destroy one like that when its in place. Even if you build a seige cannon or two it will not destroy the barricade for one reason. All the aliens and I mean all the aliens will be comthrough that barricade to attack the marines so the marins are constantly under attack. By that time the marines will start to lose all hope in that mission to win not only is that a good defence against the marines but it also breaks them down a bit mentally and will make the commander really stressed.
  • MadjaiMadjai Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2986Members
    if you can get a gorge in the front of a marines entrence then the marines just suck, they should cover all entrences into their main base.
  • MbOoGiEMbOoGiE Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2030Members
    bile bombs take 3 hives... if u let the aliens take 3 hives, it's sort of like the aliens letting the marines take 2 hives... guaranteed win.

    if your talking about acid rockets... and a fade keeps harassing you, then it's up to the commander to invest on some grenade launchers... attack at the same time, and boom no more fade. lerk umbra may nullify your HMGs to a point, but it doesn't protect against nades. wait for umbra, throw a nade or two, kill the lerk, then go after the fade. nade the barricade and no more problem.

    the "oh the commander is so overwhelmed" excuse should stop. sure, most people out there knows the basics of commanding, but it'll take a lot longer to develop sound strategies. you don't master warcraft 3 in a week... what makes you think that most commanders are really going their full potential?

    i played against an excellent marine group the other night, and needless to say, our fast expansion, harassment techniques were thoroughly raped. and i'm talking about 1-2 gorgs who knew what they were doing, and proper harassment techniques to slow the marines down. hell, just to give you an idea... not more than 5 minutes after we got 2nd hive up were they knocking on our door. they advanced as a team and rushed our hive, while we were busy destroying their other resources.

    alien whine was justified pre-patch due to the resource bug. marines whining about fades is just sad imo. you have CS players trying to command in an RTS... it's just not drop ammo, ha and HMGs anymore.
  • NightShadeNightShade Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2219Members
    Ok, they only need 2 hives to shoot the acid. and yes i saw acid take out everyone NOT BILE BOMBS. please dont talk about skill and need to plan because there is only so much you can do it is a fps
  • 3psIloN3psIloN Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7082Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MbOoGiE+Nov 7 2002, 04:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MbOoGiE @ Nov 7 2002, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->alien whine was justified pre-patch due to the resource bug. marines whining about fades is just sad imo. you have CS players trying to command in an RTS... it's just not drop ammo, ha and HMGs anymore.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is so true, I 've seen players call each other noobs on the first day of release. This marine player was raving/ranting on the mic about the commander was a noob because he didn't give him ammo or the "nade" launcher. When I told him he was playing CS too much, he replied in the CS fashion... STFU NOOB!!!

    <i>LOL</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CreamystewCreamystew Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7188Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--3psIloN+Nov 7 2002, 06:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (3psIloN @ Nov 7 2002, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--MbOoGiE+Nov 7 2002, 04:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MbOoGiE @ Nov 7 2002, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->alien whine was justified pre-patch due to the resource bug.  marines whining about fades is just sad imo.  you have CS players trying to command in an RTS... it's just not drop ammo, ha and HMGs anymore.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is so true, I 've seen players call each other noobs on the first day of release. This marine player was raving/ranting on the mic about the commander was a noob because he didn't give him ammo or the "nade" launcher. When I told him he was playing CS too much, he replied in the CS fashion... STFU NOOB!!!

    <i>LOL</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL.......CS players are renound for the "STFU NOOB" statements....
  • KarriNKarriN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6617Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--MbOoGiE+Nov 7 2002, 09:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MbOoGiE @ Nov 7 2002, 09:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if your talking about acid rockets... and a fade keeps harassing you, then it's up to the commander to invest on some grenade launchers...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OK, the following score (from a game I was just on, ns_eclipse) was mostly made with me as Fade using acid rocket and marines spamming everywhere with nades, in the Triad area.


    <img src='http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/putaala/hl1.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • MutantMFMMutantMFM Join Date: 2002-07-27 Member: 1005Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--3psIloN+Nov 7 2002, 11:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (3psIloN @ Nov 7 2002, 11:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--MbOoGiE+Nov 7 2002, 04:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MbOoGiE @ Nov 7 2002, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->alien whine was justified pre-patch due to the resource bug.  marines whining about fades is just sad imo.  you have CS players trying to command in an RTS... it's just not drop ammo, ha and HMGs anymore.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is so true, I 've seen players call each other noobs on the first day of release. This marine player was raving/ranting on the mic about the commander was a noob because he didn't give him ammo or the "nade" launcher. When I told him he was playing CS too much, he replied in the CS fashion... STFU NOOB!!!

    <i>LOL</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I had people do calling me noob on the first day NS was released it was really funny lol. Also if there are alot and I mean alot of defence chambers and some offence turrets near the marine entrance they will really have no chance.
  • NightShadeNightShade Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2219Members
    edited November 2002
    thank you. All i ask for the testers to test the game out with lower speed acid rockets and see if it evens out. I think that is what is making the game uneven dare i say it
  • ViolenceJackViolenceJack Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5624Members
    i was going on about the way marines were really hard in v1 now i have been going on how aliens is really hard in v1.01 I just want the game balanced. Most of the ppl that are slaging off ppl complaing were the ppl that were complaing in v1 cso they finaly have there vengance cos its so bloody easy.

    Getting a really really high score with fade is so easy now. at least in v1 it took time to kill with acidrocket making slash useful. now you can kill em easy before you get close, there no point in blink it wastes energy that can be used on 1-2 acidrockets.

    I am finding that sgs seem to oppose hardly any threat now <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> i dunno what that is, they said they increased price and that it. I can succesfully take out 2 sgs in an open area with a skulk +lvl3 carapace it was near impossible in v1
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