Help :( My 6800gt Has Major Problems :o

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">it keeps pausing in all games... :(</div>Please read up on my issue on the HardOCP forums:

<a href='http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=788176' target='_blank'>http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=788176</a>

Basically, my video card keeps stuttering every 3 seconds or so in everys ingle game except doom 3, and that's only if i turn the vsync off. w/ vsync on even doom3 stutters. but regardless of vsync setting every other game i have stutters horribly :( :( :(

I've tried drivers and swapping a power supply w/ a 400w one and etc, nothing works. :(

Does anyone have any ideas on advice (again, please read the above thread to get a full grasp on the situation)

Comments

  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Basically, my video card keeps stuttering every 3 seconds or so in everys ingle game <b>except doom 3</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So what's the problem again? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    (You knew someone was going to say it...)

    Seriously though, unfortunatly I can't help you with your issue and the only advice I can give you is the basics:
    <this is where I told you to do a bunch of stuff and then read your link and editted>

    RMA
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    Bah sorry to hear that you're struggling Doomy.
    I can only think of 2 things that may help.

    1: Bump up your PSU to 450w. I know that sounds
    abit unneeded but my 9800 Pro practically <b>demands</b>
    upwards of 450w or it starts throwing fits and restarting my comp.
    I eventually got a 470w PSU with a 12cm on the underside of it
    and things have been great since.

    2: Download NVHard and see if you can disable Fast-Write.
    <a href='http://download.guru3d.com/nvhardpage/' target='_blank'>--> Get it Here <--</a>
    NVHard is something all nVidia card users should have
    because of the vast amount of new options it opens.

    Quick Edit:
    Did you format your machine before throwing the new card in?
    I know that it's very really needed but something might be conflicting.

    Good luck Doomy.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    Another reason while I'll never buy nvidia....

    I have a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 that I've sent in 3 times and it has never worked more than 3 days. Like I said...<b>Nvidia SUCKS.</b>
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DY357LX+Aug 5 2004, 02:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DY357LX @ Aug 5 2004, 02:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bah sorry to hear that you're struggling Doomy.
    I can only think of 2 things that may help.

    1: Bump up your PSU to 450w. I know that sounds
    abit unneeded but my 9800 Pro practically <b>demands</b>
    upwards of 450w or it starts throwing fits and restarting my comp.
    I eventually got a 470w PSU with a 12cm on the underside of it
    and things have been great since.

    2: Download NVHard and see if you can disable Fast-Write.
    <a href='http://download.guru3d.com/nvhardpage/' target='_blank'>--> Get it Here <--</a>
    NVHard is something all nVidia card users should have
    because of the vast amount of new options it opens.

    Quick Edit:
    Did you format your machine before throwing the new card in?
    I know that it's very really needed but something might be conflicting.

    Good luck Doomy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My 9800 pro runs dandy with my 350W power supply, although your 6800GT will suck alot more than a 9800 pro...

    <Ultra obvious> you have checked all the wire connections to make sure everything is firmly in place right?

    Doesn't omega drivers support Nvida cards now? probably one of the custom drivers out there can get you a better set of options in terms of fastwrite and whatnot...

    <Ultra obvious 2> latest version of direct X? I had to reinstall DX when I got my 9800...
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    Try updating your DX to 9.0c.

    And if the card is overclocked, it could be the cause.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    nvhard didn't do the trick either...

    there's no way the thing requires more than a 400w power supply. The box for every 6800 lists a 300w power supply as the min required, and when i had the 300w in there it ran the exact same as it does now...

    card isn't overclocked either...


    i'll try updating to dx9c.. :/
  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    The only thing aside from simply being defective that I can think of is power.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->According to Nvidia, the card will run using a single power supply connector; however, this setup leaves almost no voltage headroom, and any variance in the power supply's output could cause system instability.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The 6800's were DESIGNED to use two molex connectors, and a 480 watt power supply (bare minimum). However, now they recommend a minimum 350 watt, and that's assuming you don't have any other power hogs. If your core voltages are fluctuating, that could be causing the instability.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dorian Gray+Aug 5 2004, 12:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dorian Gray @ Aug 5 2004, 12:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If your core voltages are fluctuating, that could be causing the instability. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    God, that sentence is sexy...
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    you _knew_ that an nvidia card would blow for everything else than doom 3
  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    I heard disabling fastwrites and/or updating your via drivers fixes this.
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    Whats the news Doomy? It's been quite a few hours
    since you've posted. Are you happily plodding away
    on Doom 3 now or have you slipped into a coma caused
    by frustration?
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you _knew_ that an nvidia card would blow for everything else than doom 3<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Wakey wakey, this isn't a geforce fx, the card is fine(except this particular specimen I guess).
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited August 2004
    If you don't COMPLETELY uninstall your old driver before you plug in your new card, it can couse serious problems!
    Few years ago it was no problem, but now it is.

    In those cases i suggest the most extreme "solution", reformating your HD.
    If this doesn't help change the card for a new one.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Aug 5 2004, 01:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Aug 5 2004, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> nvhard didn't do the trick either...

    there's no way the thing requires more than a 400w power supply. The box for every 6800 lists a 300w power supply as the min required, and when i had the 300w in there it ran the exact same as it does now...

    card isn't overclocked either...


    i'll try updating to dx9c.. :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just bump up the power supply. They had the EXACT same problem(except oddly, it was mainly with D3), and the power supply was the problem at Gamespy.

    Here's the article:

    <a href='http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/doom-3/535138p1.html' target='_blank'>http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/doom-3/535138p1.html</a>

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->10:30 PM - Stuttering Solved

    For the past two days, I've been having issues getting DOOM 3 running smoothly on my main gaming rig: an Alienware 3.0 Ghz machine with 1GB RAM and a GeForce 6800 video card. The problem: in certain locations, the game drops from a crisp 60 frames per second to a mind-boggling 4-5 FPS. All my drivers were updated, so I wasn't sure what the problem was, and simply shifted my playtesting to my other 3.0 Ghz machine outfitted with a GeForce FX 5950 (which has been running great). Needless to say, I've been kind of bummed that I haven't gotten the game running on my best machine.

    After some poking around, it looks like I've got the problem solved. Part I: the 6800 requires two power inputs, and -- after getting a system notice that my card wasn't getting enough power -- I switched around some power cables inside the machine, under the assumption that the Y-splitter I was using might have been the culprit. Part II: I'm running two monitors off the 6800, so I'm disabling the second monitor while playing DOOM 3. The result: I'm now playing at 1024x with 4xAA and the system barely dips below 50FPS. Woot!
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-DY357LX+Aug 5 2004, 11:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DY357LX @ Aug 5 2004, 11:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whats the news Doomy? It's been quite a few hours
    since you've posted. Are you happily plodding away
    on Doom 3 now or have you slipped into a coma caused
    by frustration? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was asleep. :P


    hmm...

    The power supply thing sounds like it might be it, but I just dunno. I'll take this 400w back and pick up an antech 450 I guess...
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Aug 5 2004, 09:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Aug 5 2004, 09:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DY357LX+Aug 5 2004, 11:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DY357LX @ Aug 5 2004, 11:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whats the news Doomy? It's been quite a few hours
    since you've posted. Are you happily plodding away
    on Doom 3 now or have you slipped into a coma caused
    by frustration? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was asleep. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    hmm...

    The power supply thing sounds like it might be it, but I just dunno. I'll take this 400w back and pick up an antech 450 I guess... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Get the highest you can get within your budget.
    For 2 main reasons:
    1: Just to be on the safe side. 470w PSU never hurt anyone
    2: It'll greatly help narrow the causes of your problem down


    Good luck!
  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    get an antec or enermax psu while your at. <3 Antec.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited August 2004
    Here's an update of the situation for those that care:

    two power supplies and another video card later, I find it was the card that was defective after all.

    The good news is CompUSA had the PNY 6800GT's in stock, so I grabbed one and it works fine as far as I can tell!

    I also now have a 420w Enermax psu. I guess I don't really need it since it was the card all along, but I like it and its quieter than my old PSU, so I'll keep it. At 420 watts and hearing that a 350w runs like 8 hard drives no problem, I expect to never need another PSU ever again. :P
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    Meh. Figures.

    So you got all those goodies for nothing XD
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Aug 5 2004, 10:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Aug 5 2004, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Here's an update of the situation for those that care:

    two power supplies and another video card later, I find it was the card that was defective after all.

    The good news is CompUSA had the PNY 6800GT's in stock, so I grabbed one and it works fine as far as I can tell!

    I also now have a 420w Enermax psu. I guess I don't really need it since it was the card all along, but I like it and its quieter than my old PSU, so I'll keep it. At 420 watts and hearing that a 350w runs like 8 hard drives no problem, I expect to never need another PSU ever again. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So, your DOOM 3 experiance is running at PWN++ now?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    indeed.

    Oh well. I'm only $100 over budget... and considering i didn't get the 3.06ghz cpu after all, all is well...
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Aug 6 2004, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Aug 6 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> indeed.

    Oh well. I'm only $100 over budget... and considering i didn't get the 3.06ghz cpu after all, all is well... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I hope you enjoy the game as much as I have so far <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Fro5tyFro5ty Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21238Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Aug 5 2004, 02:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Aug 5 2004, 02:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> nvhard didn't do the trick either...

    there's no way the thing requires more than a 400w power supply. The box for every 6800 lists a 300w power supply as the min required, and when i had the 300w in there it ran the exact same as it does now...

    card isn't overclocked either...


    i'll try updating to dx9c.. :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Here is a little trick I learned back in high school with my network teacher. Look at the minimum and reccomended requirements and find the middle ground in between them. Then multiply that by 2 and then add a quarter of the new total and that should do it.

    400-300=100/2=50+300=350x2=700*.25=175+700=875. There ya go.







    I didn't say was economical or anything, you're just guranteed that something will work if you do that. Of course it can be said that my teacher had a loathing of engineers and thought they were mindless idiots that could be replaced with monkeys and usually get everything wrong...
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